Current Events > Existence of aliens does not actually make sense since abiogenesis is NOT proven

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Zikten
09/26/23 7:44:50 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
If God exists, it's probably a Type 7 civilization on the Kardishev scale that figured out way later how to transcend time and space into something we can't see or understand. At least if you want to look at a god concept scientifically. We'll never reach a Type 1 anyway though so meh.
Possibly. I've wondered about that too.

As for us. I think maybe the great test for all civilizations is making it to Type 1. I have a feeling most civilizations never make it. The ones who reach Type 1 are the cream of the crop. I used to think that we would make it but seeing the state of global politics these days, I am not as hopeful anymore
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chaos_knight
09/26/23 7:57:29 PM
#152:


Zikten posted...
Possibly. I've wondered about that too.

As for us. I think maybe the great test for all civilizations is making it to Type 1. I have a feeling most civilizations never make it. The ones who reach Type 1 are the cream of the crop. I used to think that we would make it but seeing the state of global politics these days, I am not as hopeful anymore

A Type 1 requires humanity all working together towards common goals. Which...yeah, not happening.

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Gritty
09/26/23 8:06:55 PM
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DnDer posted...
Didn't expect to find creationist nonsense on this board. I thought that's what the religion board was for.
Oh is that his stupid ass gimmick here?
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Prestoff
09/26/23 8:08:51 PM
#154:


Why am I not surprised this devolved into a intelligent design vs abiogenesis topic

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pegusus123456
09/26/23 8:10:41 PM
#155:


Prestoff posted...
Why am I not surprised this devolved into a intelligent design vs abiogenesis topic
Because literally the first post is an intelligent design vs abiogenesis post?

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Prestoff
09/26/23 8:12:28 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Because literally the first post is an intelligent design vs abiogenesis post?

I'm an idiot, I didn't read the last part of the post.

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BewmHedshot
09/26/23 8:13:26 PM
#157:


indica posted...
It literally is though. There was even a court case related to this and teaching intelligent design in schools. It was found that intelligent design was a rebranding of creationism to sound more scientific (which it is not) and as such is not allowed in science classes...
Intelligent design fails as a scientific theory because it neither makes testable predictions nor provides a means of falsification.
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DnDer
09/26/23 10:42:03 PM
#158:


Gritty posted...
Oh is that his stupid ass gimmick here?

Might be. I don't know all the CE gimmicks, and I think this is my first real go-round with him.

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DnDer
09/26/23 10:44:18 PM
#159:


DnDer posted...
Still not a cogent response as to why you're posting fundie evangelical rhetoric and pretending it's not.

Still waiting on a response to this, Mackie.

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dioxxys
09/27/23 1:02:02 AM
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Mackorov posted...
abiogenesis is basically the totally unproven, untested and unverified hypothesis that life can be formed from inorganic matter.
And you can't prove there ISNT organic matter elsewhere in the universe.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/28/23 7:30:35 PM
#162:


Mackorov posted...
That itself is the god-of-gaps fallacy. Ironic.
Quite the opposite, but this topic in and of itself has proven you have no idea what you're talking about.

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10/01/23 5:01:33 AM
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Notti
10/01/23 7:54:51 AM
#164:


Mackorov posted...
I presented the basis for why intelligent design has just a strong case to consider and y'know what's the funniest thing? No one can refute it at all. Even the staunchest nihilistic believers in abiogenesis.

HOW are our DNA so insanely intricate, complex and so well-engineered??

This is most definitely NOT something that could just arise by some totally random, lucky freaking inorganic 'accident'. And it's extremely frustrating the mainstream community and media purposely don't cover much on this since encouraging 'intelligent design' means supporting some religious nutjobs.
Why can't we freaking separate 'intelligent design' from religion? How long will it take for humans to finally see past this stupid bias?

Intelligent design is NOT creationism.


Intelligent design is creationism.

What else would it be?

Especially if your question is:

"Who or what, started the universe?" (Aka, The start point of everything)

Rather than

"Who or what, started life?" (Or humans)

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rexcrk
10/01/23 7:58:17 AM
#165:


pegusus123456 posted...
I don't know how you've managed it through text, but you give off an intense vibe of smelling like cat piss.
Completely rekt in the first reply

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Questionmarktarius
10/02/23 12:44:08 PM
#166:


Notti posted...
"Who or what, started the universe?" (Aka, The start point of everything)
something something, turtles all the way down.

"Who or what, started life?" (Or humans)
throw all the bits in a jar and disturb it a bit, and RNA just forms itself.
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Verdekal
10/02/23 12:45:16 PM
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Didn't they synthesize amino acids in a lab?

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