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IShall_Run_Amok 09/23/23 8:38:40 PM #51: |
Euripides posted...
So not freeNope, completely free. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 8:40:48 PM #52: |
Agonized_rufous posted... They're making it harder in some places to hit journeyman level though. It's like 800 school hours and 8000 on the job hours in some places. L Artificial scarcity also drives up prices. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dodgefan91 09/23/23 8:42:59 PM #53: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Artificial scarcity also drives up prices. fwiw, you don't have to join the union to make good money in the trades. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 09/23/23 8:44:29 PM #54: |
Euripides posted... So not free Society at large foots the bill because society at large benefits. Thats precisely how taxation is supposed to work. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 09/23/23 8:45:30 PM #55: |
AlBundy33 posted...
Unless youre going to be a doctor, lawyer, teacher, or engineer, a college degree for the most part isnt worth the paper its printed on. Bad faith topic. But regardless, trades arent for everyone either. Not everyone wants to live to work, no matter how well it pays. --- I gave you the chance of aiding me willingly, but you.. have elected.. the way of.. PAIN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 09/23/23 8:47:46 PM #56: |
Euripides posted...
So not freeBetter those taxes be used to facilitate educating the nation than to bombing brown people in some desert. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agonized_rufous 09/23/23 8:47:47 PM #57: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Artificial scarcity also drives up prices. Missing out on work from not having bodies costs the same people money as well Talking to some of the GCs in the area, apparently it's been harder getting works from Mexico this year as well. Makes you wonder while the housing market goes insane --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlBundy33 09/23/23 8:57:41 PM #58: |
Necronmon posted...
https://fortune.com/2023/06/03/early-childhood-skills-are-more-important-than-college-degrees/?queryly=related_article That is why I love my job, my job is 100% impossible to automate --- Shoe Salesman. Four Touchdowns, one game. This post may contain my opinion. My opinions may be offensive, deal with it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/23/23 9:00:03 PM #59: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Better those taxes be used to facilitate educating the nation than to bombing brown people in some desert. I agree, but it would be "free" like universal medicare would be "free" --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 9:02:50 PM #60: |
Euripides posted... I agree, but it would be "free" like universal medicare would be "free"And there's nothing wrong with that. You just have to accept that everyone pays for it, and not just "the billionaires". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 09/23/23 9:03:50 PM #61: |
When I went to college, my minor required me to take courses at a trade school.
So I basically did both simultaneously. --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/23/23 9:14:09 PM #62: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
And there's nothing wrong with that. You just have to accept that everyone pays for it, and not just "the billionaires". I'd be fine with it. But if you think the "no one forgave MY student loans" people are bad, just wait for the "no one paid for MY college" assholes who will vote against this until they die --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 09/23/23 9:18:33 PM #63: |
Euripides posted... I'd be fine with it.nobody should care about what assholes think ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 9:20:29 PM #64: |
assholes vote too ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 09/23/23 9:27:00 PM #65: |
They vote conservative for a reason ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 09/23/23 9:27:40 PM #66: |
Euripides posted... I'd be fine with it. To be fair, nobody paid my student loans, including me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArkhamOrigins 09/23/23 9:28:09 PM #67: |
AlBundy33 posted...
That is why I love my job, my job is 100% impossible to automate What is your job? --- The ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 09/23/23 9:29:26 PM #68: |
My high school had a vocational building on campus that pushed heavily to take classes there. It had welding, construction, farming, automotive repair, electronics, etc. Almost every student took more than one class there.
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boomgetchopped3 09/23/23 9:42:31 PM #69: |
The problem with this logic is you need to educate 1 million people to raise 100 geniuses. Who are the geniuses among them? Educating the masses must be done. If not college then some other means. But human knowledge has to keep advancing for civilization to continue at our population levels. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 9:44:13 PM #70: |
boomgetchopped3 posted... The problem with this logic is you need to educate 1 million people to raise 100 geniuses. But, you get 900000 "competent" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 09/23/23 9:45:11 PM #71: |
TC is a strange dude
--- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/23/23 9:47:23 PM #72: |
An educated populace would mean fewer cultists
--- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 09/23/23 9:47:57 PM #73: |
ArkhamOrigins posted...
What is your job? User Info: AlBundy33
Don't expect an answer. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 9:49:07 PM #74: |
GeraldDarko posted... TC is a strange dudeIt's CE. We all are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 09/23/23 9:51:54 PM #75: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's CE. We all are. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/1/AAeowgAAE3hr.jpg --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ferroseed 09/23/23 9:52:25 PM #76: |
Questionmarktarius posted... It's CE. We all are. or are people like you a certain breed? hmm personally im of the belief that not everybody will post "HOW DARE YOU talk about gun control!" after a child gets shot, like you did, but hey what do i know ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/23/23 9:54:03 PM #77: |
StealThisSheen posted...
User Info: AlBundy33Shoe salesman, obviously --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 09/23/23 9:57:23 PM #78: |
GeraldDarko posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/1/AAeowgAAE3hr.jpg why does his mustache always look weighted down and sopping ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KI_Simpson 09/23/23 9:58:27 PM #79: |
People really should have not responded to the topic seriously when the topic post whined about "kids these days" thinking jobs are beneath them and then immediately mocked them for having jobs the TC thinks are beneath them.
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Ferroseed 09/23/23 10:00:09 PM #80: |
KI_Simpson posted... People really should have not responded to the topic seriously when the topic post whined about "kids these days" thinking jobs are beneath them and then immediately mocking them for having jobs the TC thinks are beneath them. to be fair if people didnt respond then how else would we get people like questionmarktarius who cant help but answer the bait and run to the defense of obvious trolls like tc? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 09/23/23 10:05:06 PM #81: |
TC didn't you say that rail is useless because everything ends up on a truck at some point? Sounds like you should have paid more attention in school
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Torgo 09/23/23 10:07:03 PM #82: |
High Schools should push both.
--- Be careful: I was moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder. It's not worth trying to be the voice of reason sometimes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeraldDarko 09/23/23 10:14:09 PM #83: |
Gwynevere posted...
TC didn't you say that rail is useless because everything ends up on a truck at some point? Sounds like you should have paid more attention in schoolIt's only because he's a truck driver. If he were a security guard or clerk, they would be super important. Not that driving truck isn't important, but it's just a classic egocentric worldview. --- Carpe petat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pnut027 09/23/23 10:18:56 PM #84: |
AlBundy33 posted...
Im not saying college isnt a viable path for anyone, all Im saying is all these people saying you cant have a good life without a college degree(for example, everyone told me growing up if I didnt go to college I would only ever make minimum wage, I make close to $40 an hour right now, and it will only go up)Thats quite the hourly wage for a shoe salesman. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ferroseed 09/23/23 10:20:44 PM #85: |
pnut027 posted... Thats quite the hourly wage for a shoe salesman. tc sure spends a lot of time on here for somebody who makes 40 an hour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 09/23/23 10:21:08 PM #86: |
AlBundy33 posted...
Unless youre going to be a doctor, lawyer, teacher, or engineer, a college degree for the most part isnt worth the paper its printed on. Actually more jobs than ever are requiring college degrees. At my last job they wouldn't promote anyone to a management type position without papers even if they were there for over 20 years and had to train the new supervisors. It's a stupid trend. If someone has the knowhow and experience to do a job, there shouldn't be some expensive requirement just because some corporate goon says so. --- This is where cool people write stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 10:21:23 PM #87: |
Ferroseed posted... personally im of the belief that not everybody will post "HOW DARE YOU talk about gun control!" after a child gets shot, like you did, but hey what do i knowto be fair, that's a collision of nihilism and anarchism. Also I don't think I ever posted "how dare you?!", just that it would be pointless and counter-productive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ferroseed 09/23/23 10:23:35 PM #88: |
Questionmarktarius posted... to be fair, that's a collision of nihilism and anarchism. look all im saying is that you are mainly known for doing two things:
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 10:36:25 PM #89: |
Ferroseed posted... look all im saying is that you are mainly known for doing two things:I'm pretty sure that's someone else. That's not me. Replace "guns" with "reaganomics", and you're pretty close. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ferroseed 09/23/23 10:47:24 PM #90: |
Questionmarktarius posted... I'm pretty sure that's someone else. That's not me. nah that was definitely you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 10:56:47 PM #92: |
Ferroseed posted... nah that was definitely youshow me where, on the "log" site we're not supposed to mention. (also you have to that in PMs, since the log site is forbidden here) I know I'm absurdly-right by CE standards, but largely indifferent about guns. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sundercles 09/23/23 11:03:35 PM #93: |
I live in the bum fuck middle of nowhere on the edge of Appalachia and I push students to whatever theyre best suited towards. I work at a combined middle school/high school and talk to my students about whether they should go to a vocational school or collegeeven though Im not a guidance counselor. Good teachers will always care about their students and foster their growth.
The area is also EXTREMELY poor. However, students that are smart and/or talented enough can even start college or trade school early through government programs. Given how poor my area is, Im betting most other districts have that option. Hell, I started college at 15. So the options for both are there, and responsible teachers will help their students explore their various options. I havent seen much you have to go to college mentality (if any) from my colleagues. Ive suffered through some really excruciatingly awful jobs that were a terrible fit for me, so I encourage kids to do what makes them happy. --- Favorite series: Super Robot Wars, Dragon Quest, Fire Emblem, Tales, Megami Tensei, FF (I-X), Suikoden, Lunar, Phantasy Star, Shining Force, SoulCal, and more! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 09/23/23 11:16:44 PM #94: |
As a university professor, I can say that college isn't for everyone.
And despite the narrative that "high schools push everyone to go to college", the truth is that only ~35% of high school graduates go to college in the U.S. But I've had a handful of students who were wholly unqualified for college and I'm not sure how they got through the enrollment process. --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/23/23 11:21:49 PM #95: |
Euripides posted... But I've had a handful of students who were wholly unqualified for college and I'm not sure how they got through the enrollment process.Easy student loans. That's why. I flunked out of two colleges, did night classes in a third, and finally got a degree in the fourth. Easy student loans did that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pnut027 09/23/23 11:46:55 PM #96: |
Ferroseed posted...
tc sure spends a lot of time on here for somebody who makes 40 an hourTbf I make $38 an hour with my second shift differential. But my job is also fairly complicated. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 09/24/23 12:30:29 AM #97: |
I really wish my highschool actually prepped me to be a successful adult by actually helping with stuff like college, getting a job, and a resume. Instead my counselor was like I see you put down those for your college list, and it was over. I really could have used some kind of help. I certainly wasn't getting it at home.
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Ivany2008 09/24/23 12:41:01 AM #98: |
High schools in general should be used to get teenagers ready for the real world with real world skills. By the time someone leaves high school, they should be more than capable for applying for 1 step higher than retail jobs without needing prior experience. So if retail pays lets say 20k a year, then they should be able to apply for positions paying 30k a year. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rotterdammerung 09/24/23 12:55:45 AM #99: |
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DnDer 09/24/23 2:08:26 AM #100: |
Euripides posted...
So not free You should know better than to make that kind of bad, dismissive argument. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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