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darkace77450
09/21/23 9:28:55 AM
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https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1200674883/a-96-year-old-federal-judge-was-barred-from-hearing-cases-in-a-fight-over-her-fi

A 96-year-old U.S. federal appeals court judge was barred Wednesday from hearing cases for a year after a panel said she refused to undergo medical testing amid concerns that she is no longer mentally fit to serve on the bench.

In retrospect, lifetime judgeship appointments might not have been the best idea.
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Avirosb
09/21/23 9:31:05 AM
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Life tended to end more abruptly back in the day.
The constitution never took modern science into account.

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voldothegr8
09/21/23 9:31:09 AM
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Newman, a President Ronald Reagan appointee

JFC

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Dreepapult
09/21/23 9:31:10 AM
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If only we could have the ancient turtle and the crypt keeper step down

(McConnell and feinstein)

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Serious_Cat
09/21/23 9:50:30 AM
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Judge Newman received a B.A. from Vassar College in 1947, an M.A. from Columbia University in 1948, a Ph.D. from Yale University in 1952, and an LL.B. from New York University School of Law in 1958.

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Verdekal
09/21/23 10:05:45 AM
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Don't you mean SUSPENDED?

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Bass
09/21/23 10:07:19 AM
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Sigh, age/term limits when?

Never, at this rate.

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cabcalloway1983
09/21/23 10:08:21 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
If only we could have the ancient turtle and the crypt keeper step down

(McConnell and feinstein)

Biden and Pelosi also fit that perfectly.

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Dreepapult
09/21/23 10:12:17 AM
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cabcalloway1983 posted...
Biden and Pelosi also fit that perfectly.
Yes

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:14:52 AM
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Honestly, there needs to be an enforced retirement age for anyone that works in government at all. It's embarrassing to have anyone that has obvious mental decline have any sort of power in this country. Judges, politicians, and presidents all included.

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Dreepapult
09/21/23 10:15:55 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Honestly, there needs to be an enforced retirement age for anyone that works in government at all. It's embarrassing to have anyone that has obvious mental decline have any sort of power in this country. Judges, politicians, and presidents all included.
Never gonna happen. That'd be them legislating against their own power and overly huge paychecks. They won't do it.

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:17:17 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
Never gonna happen. That'd be them legislating against their own power and overly huge paychecks. They won't do it.

I know. Half of Congress are basically the Walking Dead at this point.

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:19:47 AM
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cabcalloway1983 posted...
Biden and Pelosi also fit that perfectly.

I would have said Feinstein myself. Honestly haven't heard any issues with Pelosi yet.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/21/23 10:21:40 AM
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The problem is her refusing these tests, not her being old.

Stop the ageism. There's no reason a word should be said about someone's age as opposed to their policy.

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andel
09/21/23 10:22:06 AM
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when you have trump being a big favorite to be the gop nominee because he has a cult backing him despite being very clearly cognitively impaired you have little chance of changing the system unfortunately

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Irony
09/21/23 10:22:18 AM
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How does this even work? I'm unaware of how federal judge suspensions. Isn't the SCOTUS the only thing above an appeals court judge besides a a 2/3 voting senate?

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darkace77450
09/21/23 10:23:39 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Stop the ageism. There's no reason a word should be said about someone's age as opposed to their policy.

You're okay with people born before the invention of the computer passing legislation regulating and deciding cases involving AI?

Edit: That's not to say I'm for forcing people out based on an arbitrary age. I've argued against age limits in the past. But my opposition has a limit, and this judge surpassed it.
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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:24:20 AM
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andel posted...
when you have trump being a big favorite to be the gop nominee because he has a cult backing him despite being very clearly cognitively impaired you have little chance of changing the system unfortunately

It's something I hate to admit, but Trump still has a million times more energy than Biden at this point. Biden looks like he'll fall asleep at any moment when giving a speech, which is horrid optics during an election (which is all that most care about when voting still).

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Cephalopods
09/21/23 10:24:30 AM
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Yeah, I don't know a nice way to put this, but people that old just shouldn't be sitting in government in any capacity.
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McMarbles
09/21/23 10:25:01 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
If only we could have the ancient turtle and the crypt keeper step down

(McConnell and feinstein)
Feinsteins done at the end of the term.

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andel
09/21/23 10:26:24 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
It's something I hate to admit, but Trump still has a million times more energy than Biden at this point. Biden looks like he'll fall asleep at any moment when giving a speech, which is horrid optics during an election (which is all that most care about when voting still).

trump is very clearly much more cognitively impaired than biden and has been for years. did you watch the two debate? did you watch the state of the union? stop gobbling up gop propaganda. trump has not been all there since before 2020 at least and is much less fit than biden

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mental-health-psychiatry-professor-1467425

that article from '19 nails it perfectly. trump isn't capable of thinking in abstract terms and this was proven by his rigged election lies and inability to propose any substantive policy proposals ever.

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Dreepapult
09/21/23 10:28:00 AM
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McMarbles posted...
Feinsteins done at the end of the term.
Oh did they commit to that? That's good.

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pinky0926
09/21/23 10:28:58 AM
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Jfc, why would someone continue to work into their 90s

She was a judge, she's not exactly scraping the barrel for cash.

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ClayGuida
09/21/23 10:30:29 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
It's something I hate to admit, but Trump still has a million times more energy than Biden at this point. Biden looks like he'll fall asleep at any moment when giving a speech, which is horrid optics during an election (which is all that most care about when voting still).
Wut? Biden can and actually exercises and rides bikes and shit. Trump shuffles to a stage and that's it. And you're trying to say that's more energetic?

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:31:53 AM
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andel posted...
trump is very clearly much more cognitively impaired than biden and has been for years. did you watch the two debate? did you watch the state of the union? stop gobbling up gop propaganda. trump has not been all there since before 2020 at least and is much less fit than biden

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mental-health-psychiatry-professor-1467425

that article from '19 nails it perfectly. trump isn't capable of thinking in abstract terms and this was proven by his rigged election lies and inability to propose any substantive policy proposals ever.

Trump fakes it better. Biden just keeps looking worse and worse.

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Avirosb
09/21/23 10:35:34 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Trump fakes it better. Biden just keeps looking worse and worse.

What? No he fuckin' ain't. This is "the body has a finite amount of energy" Donald we're talking about.
Sundowning Donny.

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GATTJT
09/21/23 10:37:27 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
It's something I hate to admit, but Trump still has a million times more energy than Biden at this point. Biden looks like he'll fall asleep at any moment when giving a speech, which is horrid optics during an election (which is all that most care about when voting still).

chaos_knight posted...
Trump fakes it better. Biden just keeps looking worse and worse.
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asdf8562
09/21/23 10:38:04 AM
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cabcalloway1983 posted...
Biden and Pelosi also fit that perfectly.
Trump fits as well.

Nothing about Trump oozes a man of great youth and yet the usuals keep dodging listing him when complaining about old people in government.

I wonder why? Rhetorical question, we already know why the media and "concerned voters" don't mention Trumps age.

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:38:36 AM
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Avirosb posted...
What? No he fuckin' ain't. This is "the body has a finite amount of energy" Donald we're talking about.
Sundowning Donny.

Trump talks with enough energy and force to have an actual cult of tens of millions following his every word. None of them have abandoned him so far. Biden doesn't hold a candle to that. Though honestly, neither party should be putting up 80 year olds at this point anyway. Democrats used to have Clinton and Obama for young candidates. Even Republicans had Dubya. Now it's just retirement home aged people who barely remember their name before being sent out to the podium for a speech.

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brestugo
09/21/23 10:43:06 AM
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Avirosb posted...
Life tended to end more abruptly back in the day.
The constitution never took modern science into account.

Yeah, they couldn't have had any idea that people - in large numbers - could live as long as we do.

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NatsuSama
09/21/23 10:44:26 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Trump talks with enough energy and force to have an actual cult of tens of millions following his every word. None of them have abandoned him so far.
I'm not sure whether to laugh or be concerned that you think a cult cares whether or not their dear leader is full of energy to cult away. The same cult that has on camera admitted Trump couldn't do anything to lose their support.

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:46:21 AM
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NatsuSama posted...
I'm not sure whether to laugh or be concerned that you think a cult cares whether or not their dear leader is full of energy to cult away. The same cult that has on camera admitted Trump couldn't do anything to lose their support.

It's not called a cult of personality for no reason now.

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Lil_Bit83
09/21/23 10:48:40 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
If only we could have the ancient turtle and the crypt keeper step down

(McConnell and feinstein)


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GranAures
09/21/23 10:49:39 AM
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NatsuSama posted...
I'm not sure whether to laugh or be concerned that you think a cult cares whether or not their dear leader is full of energy to cult away. The same cult that has on camera admitted Trump couldn't do anything to lose their support.
I'd be willing to bet when he croaks they'll paste him to a golden toilet and 40k his rotting corpse.

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Avirosb
09/21/23 10:51:03 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Trump talks with enough energy and force to have an actual cult of tens of millions following his every word.
Yeah that's people being idiots. No need to attribute that to Donald Trump.

None of them have abandoned him so far.
Aside from those who have left this mortal coil because they wouldn't even take Covid seriously
after Donald took credit for the vaccine. Which was enough people to cost him the election.

Biden doesn't hold a candle to that.
If you held a candle to Donald he'd most likely combust.


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andel
09/21/23 10:53:42 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Trump fakes it better. Biden just keeps looking worse and worse.

absolutely not. trump is obese and can barely walk down a ramp and brags about doing such. biden is actually physically active and clearly much more mentally sharp than trump.

sounds like you are just regurgitating obvious trump cult lies when anyone with two eyes and a brain can see trump is far less mentally and physically fit

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 10:55:33 AM
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andel posted...
absolutely not. trump is obese and can barely walk down a ramp and brags about doing such. biden is actually physically active and clearly much more mentally sharp than trump.

sounds like you are just regurgitating obvious trump cult lies when anyone with two eyes and a brain can see trump is far less mentally and physically fit

I look at various sources, but I doubt something like TYT is a Trumpist cult organization. But they are far from the only one.

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andel
09/21/23 10:57:30 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Trump talks with enough energy and force to have an actual cult of tens of millions following his every word. None of them have abandoned him so far. Biden doesn't hold a candle to that. Though honestly, neither party should be putting up 80 year olds at this point anyway. Democrats used to have Clinton and Obama for young candidates. Even Republicans had Dubya. Now it's just retirement home aged people who barely remember their name before being sent out to the podium for a speech.

trump has been extremely low energy since '20 and some of his cult has abandoned him, hence his election losses in '20 and all his endorsed candidates losing in competitive races in '22. his core cult would all do anything for him, but they aren't nearly enough to win an election.

biden is still mentally sharp. it is clear you didn't watch the '20 debates or the state of the union where he dominated trump and then the entirety of the gop opposition. stop getting your news from facebook or twitter or far right wing sources tbh

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andel
09/21/23 10:59:43 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
I look at various sources, but I doubt something like TYT is a Trumpist cult organization. But they are far from the only one.

if trump is supposedly mentally/physically in better shape than biden what are you pointing at to come up with that opinion? i gave the relevant examples that you have yet to address. appealing to alternative media definitely doesn't make you seem credible

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andel
09/21/23 11:02:09 AM
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on topic, feinstein should have retired years ago and mcconnell is obviously not all there anymore which is great for democrats and america since he has been the only competent powerful republican in a long time

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Skiggie
09/21/23 11:05:25 AM
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There needs to be an age limit for judges/politiicians. This is beyond stupid.

Or at least mandatory annual testing to check their cognitive functions

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Avirosb
09/21/23 11:05:26 AM
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I don't want Feinstein to be my pilot

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TonyKojima
09/21/23 11:05:38 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
It's something I hate to admit, but Trump still has a million times more energy than Biden at this point. Biden looks like he'll fall asleep at any moment when giving a speech, which is horrid optics during an election (which is all that most care about when voting still).
Is this a joke? Haven't you seen the past few days? Everyone is talking about trumps obvious mental decline. Holy shit.

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ProfessorKukui
09/21/23 11:06:19 AM
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damn, he only had another 100 years till retirement

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brestugo
09/21/23 11:14:43 AM
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andel posted...
on topic, feinstein should have retired years ago and mcconnell is obviously not all there anymore which is great for democrats and america since he has been the only competent powerful republican in a long time

Agreed.

CA Dems nominated someone to replace her, but voters chose her over him (he later turned out to be a POS). Newsom blew everyone away at the top of the ticket, but ~ 1.3M left the Senate choice blank. Elections matter.

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1NfamousACE_2
09/21/23 11:25:25 AM
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Why do people even wanna work in their 70s and up?

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cabcalloway1983
09/21/23 11:40:12 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Why do people even wanna work in their 70s and up?

Establishment politicians. They may not even have a choice. All establishment politicians really need to go.

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EyeWontBeFooled
09/21/23 11:44:19 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Why do people even wanna work in their 70s and up?
People like to feel useful and have purpose throughout their life, and for many their profession gives meaning.

But, then we have the fact that being a federal judge gives you a non insignificant sum of power. You get to dole out punishments to other people for not showing YOU the proper levels of respect. They probably never have to pay out of pocket for a meal, and have their housing and other 'incidental' costs comped or highly discounted.

All on top of a salary that would run well into six figures, with top of the line benefits, insurance, massive tax breaks, and a pension that will almost certainly never be in danger of being lost.

Who WOULDN'T want to give that up? It doesn't surprise me in the least that the suspension happened. Judges have the potential to be the ultimate Karens.

Me? Make ME go for a medical competency test? I can have your bar and medical license revoked by the end of the week!


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Avirosb
09/21/23 11:45:42 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Why do people even wanna work in their 70s and up?
Because that's all they've known and they don't know of anything else.

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Lil_Bit83
09/21/23 11:51:31 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Why do people even wanna work in their 70s and up?
Some people are workaholics.

Lots of people have no choice with the cost of living continuing to skyrocket.

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