Current Events > Pit bull semen is being imported from America to breed dogs in UK

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/17/banned-pit-bulls-sold-as-semen-uk-breed-american-xl-bullies/

Hundreds of American XL Bully dogs in the UK are bred from pit bull semen imported from the United States, The Telegraph can disclose. Despite a ban on pit bull breeding in Britain, American kennels charge up to 16,000 for frozen semen, which is legal, and ship it to the UK to produce XL Bully puppies. The apparent loophole suggests hundreds of American Bully dogs on British streets, including the XL variety, are in fact at least half pit bull terrier. Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, has declared American Bully dogs a danger to our communities and announced his intention to impose a ban on the breed by the end of the year. The dogs are responsible for around 70 per cent of deaths from dog attacks in the UK, including the fatal mauling of Ian Price, a 52-year-old businessman, in Staffordshire on Thursday. The ban is not expected to come into force until 2025, following an amnesty period in which owners can apply to keep their dogs if they are neutered and muzzled in public.

The forthcoming ban prompted outrage from owners and breeders, who argue American Bullies are safer than their genetic cousins, pit bull terriers, and should be treated as a separate breed. Pit bull terriers were outlawed in the 1991 Dangerous Dog Act after 15 people were killed by them in dog attacks in England and Wales between 1981 and 1991. However, The Telegraph understands registered pit bulls in the United States have been remarketed as American Bullies in order to sell their semen to customers in Britain. The US breeders use two different registers to record pit bulls and American bullies, allowing their semen to be sold as either breed to different customers.

Well maybe they should stop doing that

Ban pibbles

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UK already banned them, we need to follow suit and do it here in the US as well.

Im not saying to harm any existing pit bulls. But we should probably let them slowly die out. They commit a ridiculous number of attacks compared to other breeds and I dont think the continued existence of this breed is important enough to warrant all these pet/people deaths.

You could not pay me enough to take the job of wanking off a bunch of pitbulls.

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ai123 posted...

You could not pay me enough to take the job of wanking off a bunch of pitbulls.

Reminds me of that scene from Van Wilder

Itachi157 posted...

UK already banned them, we need to follow suit and do it here in the US as well.

Im not saying to harm any existing pit bulls. But we should probably let them slowly die out. They commit a ridiculous number of attacks compared to other breeds and I dont think the continued existence of this breed is important enough to warrant all these pet/people deaths.

I dont have an issue with this but whats your plan once these same people start training any other breed to be aggressive?

Itachi157 posted...

UK already banned them, we need to follow suit and do it here in the US as well.

Im not saying to harm any existing pit bulls. But we should probably let them slowly die out. They commit a ridiculous number of attacks compared to other breeds and I dont think the continued existence of this breed is important enough to warrant all these pet/people deaths.

now change pitbulls to guns and see how well that goes over

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I dont have an issue with this but whats your plan once these same people start training any other breed to be aggressive?

Ban the dangerous pitbulls and cross the next bridge when we come to it.

There's no need to wait until we can solve the problem for all dogs before we deal with putbulls.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I dont have an issue with this but whats your plan once these same people start training any other breed to be aggressive?

You cant train most breeds to be as aggressive as pits. Pits are bred for tenacity and have an instinct to fight. Sure you can train another dog to be mean but it probably still wont get to the level of a pibble, even one that was trained to be nice.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I dont have an issue with this but whats your plan once these same people start training any other breed to be aggressive?

A dog breed is either aggressive or it isn't. You can't "contaminate" an existing breed with aggression. You can certainly train them to be more aggressive but that's not the same thing as bred aggression.

I feel sorry for the person who's day job is jerking off pitbulls.

NatsuSama posted...

I feel sorry for the person who's day job is jerking off pitbulls.

@granolapanic would do it for free

More blood for the blood dog!

NatsuSama posted...

I feel sorry for the person who's day job is jerking off pitbulls.

You mean they get paid for it?

Talk about an airlift.

Itachi157 posted...

You cant train most breeds to be as aggressive as pits. Pits are bred for tenacity and have an instinct to fight. Sure you can train another dog to be mean but it probably still wont get to the level of a pibble, even one that was trained to be nice.

It's not that pitbulls are more aggressive than other dogs. What makes them more dangerous is their powerful bite strength and their "hold and shake" instinct when attacking. This is especially dangerous when they bite a human or other animal by the neck. This is what leads to higher fatalities.

Other breeds attack a lot, maybe even more than pit bulls, but they are much less likely to result in serious injury or death. Chihuahuas, for example, may be more aggressive than a pit bull, but usually a chihuahua attack won't result in anything more serious than needing a few stitches on your hand and a tetanus shot.

Now personally I don't think we should euthanize pit bulls unless they already have shown aggressive behavior, but making it illegal to breed pit bulls and having more restrictions on owners seems like common sense to me.

I also would be on board with extending that to other "attack" dogs. In general I think selective breeding of dogs is gross. The less of it the better.

so I was thinking about this and the positive part of this is that 99% of the semen that's sold is going to be fake, because why not? illegal breeders aren't gonna be dna testing that shit

actually...I need to see how much fake cum lube costs vs shipping vials of it to the UK. I might be able to start my own business.

Cool

NatsuSama posted...

I feel sorry for the person who's day job is jerking off pitbulls.

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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

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action52 posted...

It's not that pitbulls are more aggressive than other dogs. What makes them more dangerous is their powerful bite strength and their "hold and shake" instinct when attacking. This is especially dangerous when they bite a human or other animal by the neck. This is what leads to higher fatalities.

Other breeds attack a lot, maybe even more than pit bulls, but they are much less likely to result in serious injury or death. Chihuahuas, for example, may be more aggressive than a pit bull, but usually a chihuahua attack won't result in anything more serious than needing a few stitches on your hand and a tetanus shot.

Now personally I don't think we should euthanize pit bulls unless they already have shown aggressive behavior, but making it illegal to breed pit bulls and having more restrictions on owners seems like common sense to me.

I also would be on board with extending that to other "attack" dogs. In general I think selective breeding of dogs is gross. The less of it the better.

yeah, plenty of other dogs can be trained to be just as aggressive. when I was a kid there was a house on the next street over that had animals and electric fences and everything. they also had 3 aggressive ass Rotts as guard dogs. if you got *anywhere near* that fence without one of the owners or their kids being present they would just swarm right up and growl until you left. this fence bordered a clearing in the woods where dozens of neighborhood kids had built a bike track and hung out every day.

one day they put a mound of compost/soil right next to the fence and the dogs jumped over. every single one of us kids had to run for our lives but only one got injured because luckily someone from that house overheard it and called them back.

they were very well trained...but also trained to kill anything that could possibly harm their farm.

oh, and the electric fence was literally only for the dogs. they had horses too, and they were always jumping over the fence on the other side of their property that was blocked off from the dogs. there were at least 5 mornings I went out to catch the school bus just to see a horse munching on the grass in my yard

and if Pitbulls actually get banned Rotts will be the next deadly breed that has to be banned. eventually it'll get down to german shepherds but the cops use those so it'll just get waved off

How does one jerk off a pit bull?

We have a real image problem with our breed of dogs, so we should consider rebranding!

We have a long established origin and penchant for violence, so let's change the name of them! From Pit Bulls to American Bullies!

Wait, no.

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Bully XL is a breed that only exists because pitbulls are banned.
The only real end result, apart from widespread dog raids, will be development of Doberman XL.

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "pit nutter"

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Anyone else see a problem?

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

We have a real image problem with our breed of dogs, so we should consider rebranding!

We have a long established origin and penchant for violence, so let's change the name of them! From Pit Bulls to American Bullies!

Wait, no.

"Pitbulls" has never been an accurate description of a specific breed. it's just the catchiest word.

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This ain't gonna end well...

thronedfire2 posted...

"Pitbulls" has never been an accurate description of a specific breed. it's just the catchiest word.

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Seems like the specific name is American Pit Bull Terrier, if we want to split hairs. Pretty specific and on topic here, too.

ai123 posted...

You could not pay me enough to take the job of wanking off a bunch of pitbulls.

we jerk our dogs so that the euros can one day do the same

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

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Seems like the specific name is American Pit Bull Terrier, if we want to split hairs. Pretty specific and on topic here, too.

except for the other two, and ones not listed, constantly getting labeled as pitbulls

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

We have a real image problem with our breed of dogs, so we should consider rebranding!

We have a long established origin and penchant for violence, so let's change the name of them! From Pit Bulls to American Bullies!

Wait, no.

Don't just say anything without the real research. The term "Pit Bull" is a catchall term to laymen that places four different breeds under one umbrella, or any dog that happens to "look" like one for that matter. To be an actual Pit Bull the dog has to have a direct pedigree lineage from a historic pit fighting dog, no admixture in, American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers are the only ones that fit that bill (AmStaff was the original show line APBT for the AKC).

Even in the case APBTs and AmStaffs, they have been separated long enough to be considered the working (APBT) vs show line (AmStaff). They have different drive in a way that a show Husky compared to an Alaskan Husky, the former wouldn't even last on the Iditarod.

American Bullies are much larger and often have mastiff crossed in, they are not Pit Bulls no matter what people may try to tell you. They have been bred for appearance and size.

Taharqa_ posted...

Don't just say anything without the real research. The term "Pit Bull" is a catchall term to laymen that places four different breeds under one umbrella, or any dog that happens to "look" like one for that matter. To be an actual Pit Bull the dog has to have a direct pedigree lineage from a historic pit fighting dog, no admixture in, American Pit Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers are the only ones that fit that bill (AmStaff was the original show line APBT for the AKC).

Even in the case APBTs and AmStaffs, they have been separated long enough to be considered the working (APBT) vs show line (AmStaff). They have different drive in a way that a show Husky compared to an Alaskan Husky, the former wouldn't even last on the Iditarod.

American Bullies are much larger and often have mastiff crossed in, they are not Pit Bulls no matter what people may try to tell you. They have been bred for appearance and size.

yeah I have an friend with a true American bully. Shes the most derpiest dog ever and wouldnt harm anyone

thronedfire2 posted...

except for the other two... constantly getting labeled as pitbulls

It's irrelevant as they are basically the same dog anyway. They were bred at the same time for the same purpose: bloodsports. Their ancestry is similar as well.

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One tactic of the pit bull propaganda machine is to heavily confuse the issue with a plethora of different breed names.

Yes, there are certain variations but if you look at the entire history (Ole English Bulldog/Black and Tan Terrier/British Bull Terrier bloodsport origins), there are only 2 actual distinct breeds of pit bulls: The American Pitbull Terrier and the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

The ABPT is the American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Bull Terrier, Yankee Terriers, etc. If you see a pit bull in the USA odds are very high, it is the APBT.

The ABPT is banned in the UK, unlike the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier as they dont recognize it as a pit bull. Its also easy to distinguish the statistics of these two breeds because theyre already separated. Both of these breeds lead in attack statistics in their respective countries.

Classifying all of them as bloodsport breeds (rather than a pit bull or various mixes) would make more sense. Anything else is just glorified terminology, bs club classification, confusion by design. Very convenient for bypassing BSL, confusing legislators/landlords, duping people into adopting them. For example, the American Bully is not recognized by the AKC but APBTs are allowed to transfer to the American Bully breed name. Lol

So you're saying there's a market void for vicious attack beagles?
Maybe after they're done napping.

arbuckle can't keep getting away with this

action52 posted...

It's not that pitbulls are more aggressive than other dogs. What makes them more dangerous is their powerful bite strength and their "hold and shake" instinct when attacking. This is especially dangerous when they bite a human or other animal by the neck. This is what leads to higher fatalities.

I've heard it said that pitbulls are especially genetically prone to developing a canine form of aggressive dementia early in their lives. You ever hear stories about dementia patients not recognizing their own children and turning violent for seemingly no reason? That's what happens with pitbulls, which is why you hear stories about them being playful one moment and then suddenly turning on their owners.