Current Events > Any of you here don't see a path to victory for trump?

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GranTurismo 09/17/23 4:01:11 PM #1:	Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again.... <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976132199] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 09/17/23 4:07:16 PM #2:	Big Mac Heartattack --- "Creed made better Pearl Jam music than Pearl Jam did" - shockthemonkey <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:976132352] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Big Mac Heartattack </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 09/17/23 4:08:30 PM #3:	Since Repubs think they might lose they're going to do all sorts of "Voting area in predom. Black area only open from 8am - 2pm" type of shit. And or "losing" mail votes. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:976132381] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Since Repubs think they might lose they're going to do all sorts of "Voting area in predom. Black area only open from 8am - 2pm" type of shit. And or "losing" mail votes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/17/23 4:08:39 PM #4:	CE_gonna_CE posted... Big Mac Heartattack what? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976132386] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CE_gonna_CE posted... </cite><quote>Big Mac Heartattack</quote>what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 09/17/23 4:08:50 PM #5:	GranTurismo posted... Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again.... The difference is there's now 4 years of Biden's administration on record. Trump would have to make an argument to the effect of "Now you've seen 4 years of Biden, do you really want that instead of putting me back in?" Of course that would rely on people forgetting just how disastrous Trump was and ignoring the achievements of Biden, but enlightened centrists have made stupid decisions previously. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:976132391] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again....</quote>The difference is there's now 4 years of Biden's administration on record. Trump would have to make an argument to the effect of "Now you've seen 4 years of Biden, do you really want that instead of putting me back in?"Of course that would rely on people forgetting just how disastrous Trump was and ignoring the achievements of Biden, but enlightened centrists have made stupid decisions previously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 09/17/23 4:09:09 PM #6:	He's a lock for the nomination, but won't win the presidency unless there's a lot of cheating (which means he has a chance, because MAGA AG's will happily shit on the constitution to hand him the victory) --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:976132399] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>He's a lock for the nomination, but won't win the presidency unless there's a lot of cheating (which means he has a chance, because MAGA AG's will happily shit on the constitution to hand him the victory) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 09/17/23 4:09:40 PM #7:	GranTurismo posted... what? Did I stutter --- "Creed made better Pearl Jam music than Pearl Jam did" - shockthemonkey <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:976132406] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>what?</quote>Did I stutter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/17/23 4:10:12 PM #8:	CE_gonna_CE posted... Big Mac Heartattack what happens if that happens to both? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976132419] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CE_gonna_CE posted... </cite><quote>Big Mac Heartattack</quote>what happens if that happens to both?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CE_gonna_CE 09/17/23 4:11:25 PM #9:	Questionmarktarius posted... what happens if that happens to both? Both --- "Creed made better Pearl Jam music than Pearl Jam did" - shockthemonkey <cite>CE_gonna_CE posted [p:976132444] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>what happens if that happens to both?</quote>Both </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 09/17/23 4:12:52 PM #10:	We should be extremely cautious to take it for granted after 2016, but I think trump is pretty fucked in the general. It's gross that so many Republicans are still going with trump but they need to win by razor thin margins if they were to win it at all and I think there are enough that either died of covid or were actually disgusted by jan 6. Him most likely being in jail by the election also matters. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976132472] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>We should be extremely cautious to take it for granted after 2016, but I think trump is pretty fucked in the general. It's gross that so many Republicans are still going with trump but they need to win by razor thin margins if they were to win it at all and I think there are enough that either died of covid or were actually disgusted by jan 6. Him most likely being in jail by the election also matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lillymon 09/17/23 4:16:34 PM #11:	There is a path to victory of course but it seems pretty narrow. His devoted supporters will obviously vote for him but that's never enough for victory. He's got to target moderates and independents too, so his path to victory depends on them looking at all the shit he's got himself into and being like "Yeah, I want to give him a second term". --- "Bothering people when they're shopping or going to work or whatever because you find them attractive makes you scum of the earth." MegatokyoEd <cite>Lillymon posted [p:976132543] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>There is a path to victory of course but it seems pretty narrow. His devoted supporters will obviously vote for him but that's never enough for victory. He's got to target moderates and independents too, so his path to victory depends on them looking at all the shit he's got himself into and being like "Yeah, I want to give him a second term". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/17/23 4:22:26 PM #12:	GranTurismo posted... Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again.... Based on historical trends losers tend to get even less votes than they did in the previous election for the same position and that's without 91 felony indictments. GOP knows this which is why they've made moves on independent legislature and other means of ignoring election results. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976132657] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>Supposedly he is a lock to win the repub. nomination. But have heard others say that , how is it possible if it is the same final 2 that the outcome won't be different. Meaning, the same people who wouldn't votef for trump last election won't vote for him again....</quote>Based on historical trends losers tend to get even less votes than they did in the previous election for the same position and that's without 91 felony indictments. GOP knows this which is why they've made moves on independent legislature and other means of ignoring election results. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/17/23 7:42:44 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... Based on historical trends losers tend to get even less votes than they did in the previous election for the same position and that's without 91 felony indictments. GOP knows this which is why they've made moves on independent legislature and other means of ignoring election results. <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976137172] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Based on historical trends losers tend to get even less votes than they did in the previous election for the same position and that's without 91 felony indictments. GOP knows this which is why they've made moves on independent legislature and other means of ignoring election results.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 09/18/23 9:17:49 AM #14:	idk --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:976146503] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>idk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 09/18/23 9:41:16 AM #15:	Lillymon posted... There is a path to victory of course but it seems pretty narrow. His devoted supporters will obviously vote for him but that's never enough for victory. He's got to target moderates and independents too, so his path to victory depends on them looking at all the shit he's got himself into and being like "Yeah, I want to give him a second term". His path to victory the first time was pretty narrow. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:976146799] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Lillymon posted... </cite><quote>There is a path to victory of course but it seems pretty narrow. His devoted supporters will obviously vote for him but that's never enough for victory. He's got to target moderates and independents too, so his path to victory depends on them looking at all the shit he's got himself into and being like "Yeah, I want to give him a second term".</quote>His path to victory the first time was pretty narrow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 09/18/23 9:51:53 AM #16:	Those who vote in primaries are a very, very small portion of the voting electorate. And a very small portion of the GOP electorate as well. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976146932] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Those who vote in primaries are a very, very small portion of the voting electorate. And a very small portion of the GOP electorate as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/18/23 9:55:33 AM #18:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] many many people are saying this <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976146991] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> many many people are saying this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 09/18/23 10:07:43 AM #19:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I feel the same way becasue, and it's a sad reason, is that there's literally hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Trump voters that have literally died in the 4 years since the last election, and millions of new voters aged 18-21 that weren't old enough to vote in 2020. And about 70% of voters under the age of 25 vote Democrat, it doesn't make for a good swing in Trump's favor. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:976147147] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I feel the same way becasue, and it's a sad reason, is that there's literally hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Trump voters that have literally died in the 4 years since the last election, and millions of new voters aged 18-21 that weren't old enough to vote in 2020. And about 70% of voters under the age of 25 vote Democrat, it doesn't make for a good swing in Trump's favor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/18/23 10:08:54 AM #20:	bigblu89 posted... I feel the same way becasue, and it's a sad reason, is that there's literally hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Trump voters that have literally died in the 4 years since the last election, and millions of new voters aged 18-21 that weren't old enough to vote in 2020. And about 70% of voters under the age of 25 vote Democrat, it doesn't make for a good swing in Trump's favor. is that number correct, 70 perc. of under 25? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976147161] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite><quote>I feel the same way becasue, and it's a sad reason, is that there's literally hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of Trump voters that have literally died in the 4 years since the last election, and millions of new voters aged 18-21 that weren't old enough to vote in 2020. And about 70% of voters under the age of 25 vote Democrat, it doesn't make for a good swing in Trump's favor.</quote>is that number correct, 70 perc. of under 25?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 09/18/23 10:12:09 AM #21:	Biden barely won in 2020. With Biden's approval ratings and the GOP's tactics, anybody who doesn't think Trump has a fairly good chance of winning is delusional. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:976147210] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Biden barely won in 2020. With Biden's approval ratings and the GOP's tactics, anybody who doesn't think Trump has a fairly good chance of winning is delusional. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devilanse333 09/18/23 10:14:23 AM #22:	Theres always a path to victory for him. I just think with all thats happened his odds are way low. Expect the all time heavyweight champion ridiculous campaign shenanigans from him when the election gets to full steam. --- XBOX Live Gamertag: DevilAnse33v2 PSN: DevilAnse33 <cite>Devilanse333 posted [p:976147234] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Theres always a path to victory for him. I just think with all thats happened his odds are way low. Expect the all time heavyweight champion ridiculous campaign shenanigans from him when the election gets to full steam. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:14:31 AM #23:	COVxy posted... Biden barely won in 2020. With Biden's approval ratings and the GOP's tactics, anybody who doesn't think Trump has a fairly good chance of winning is delusional. Winners don't cheat. --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147235] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Biden barely won in 2020. With Biden's approval ratings and the GOP's tactics, anybody who doesn't think Trump has a fairly good chance of winning is delusional.</quote>Winners don't cheat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 09/18/23 10:14:36 AM #24:	So why do people think republicans are not going to cheat up the ass to win the election? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:976147237] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>So why do people think republicans are not going to cheat up the ass to win the election? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 09/18/23 10:16:07 AM #25:	GranTurismo posted... is that number correct, 70 perc. of under 25? This is from the NY Times, so take it with a grain, but: Tufts Universitys Tisch College of Civic Life, perhaps the most assiduous tracker of young voters, estimated on that 27 percent of 18-to-29 voters cast ballots in midterm elections and that 63 percent of them voted for Democrats in House of Representatives elections. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:976147263] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>is that number correct, 70 perc. of under 25?</quote>This is from the NY Times, so take it with a grain, but:<quote>Tufts Universitys Tisch College of Civic Life, perhaps the most assiduous tracker of young voters, estimated on that 27 percent of 18-to-29 voters cast ballots in midterm elections and that 63 percent of them voted for Democrats in House of Representatives elections.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/18/23 10:19:33 AM #26:	In presidential elections the "are you better off now?" question always matters. Or it might not, since Biden's era has been strangely status-quo outside of the rhetoric. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976147326] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>In presidential elections the "are you better off now?" question always matters. Or it might not, since Biden's era has been strangely status-quo outside of the rhetoric.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHorus 09/18/23 10:21:47 AM #27:	LightHawKnight posted... So why do people think republicans are not going to cheat up the ass to win the election? Because that's what the Kremlin cronies are going to do again. Just like Brexit. https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-documents-show-putin-wanted-sow-chaos-us-supporting-trump-2021-7 --- Wait for it......wait, for it. Once two other posters get here we'll have ourselves an argument. Entitled vs Entitled round 40900001 COMING SOON! <cite>TheHorus posted [p:976147356] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite><quote>So why do people think republicans are not going to cheat up the ass to win the election?</quote>Because that's what the Kremlin cronies are going to do again. Just like Brexit. https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-documents-show-putin-wanted-sow-chaos-us-supporting-trump-2021-7 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:21:55 AM #28:	Biden really ought to pull the lever that says "cheaper cas prices" right now, he's not doing himself any favors here --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147359] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Biden really ought to pull the lever that says "cheaper cas prices" right now, he's not doing himself any favors here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 09/18/23 10:23:46 AM #29:	If conditions were exactly the same as they were last time around, he wouldn't stand a chance, but republicans will try to cheat in every way they can to help him... and they've also learned what did and didn't work the last time they were cheating to try to help him. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:976147387] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>If conditions were exactly the same as they were last time around, he wouldn't stand a chance, but republicans will try to cheat in every way they can to help him... and they've also learned what did and didn't work the last time they were cheating to try to help him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 09/18/23 10:26:03 AM #30:	There are a few issues Trump has: After January 6th, his voting base shrank pretty heavily After 4 criminal indictments, he may have gained support with Republicans, but lost more support among Democrats and Independents. The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off. The demographic he is weakest with is Gen Z, which is adding millions more voting age individuals yearly. Also he's dumb as fuck There are still Republicans out there who want nothing to do with Trump, but so much of the Republican party is clinging onto him that there's no way they can get rid of him. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976147426] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>There are a few issues Trump has:After January 6th, his voting base shrank pretty heavilyAfter 4 criminal indictments, he may have gained support with Republicans, but lost more support among Democrats and Independents.The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off.The demographic he is weakest with is Gen Z, which is adding millions more voting age individuals yearly.Also he's dumb as fuckThere are still Republicans out there who want nothing to do with Trump, but so much of the Republican party is clinging onto him that there's no way they can get rid of him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/18/23 10:26:56 AM #31:	American voters are very very stupid is the thing --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976147446] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>American voters are very very stupid is the thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:27:11 AM #32:	CableZL posted... * The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off. A lot of them from a disease he initially downplayed. --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147452] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>* The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off.</quote>A lot of them from a disease he initially downplayed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/18/23 10:29:23 AM #33:	DarthAragorn posted... American voters are very very stupid is the thing This is why Article 2 itself didn't bother with a popular vote. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976147491] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>American voters are very very stupid is the thing</quote>This is why Article 2 itself didn't bother with a popular vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 09/18/23 10:29:25 AM #34:	CableZL posted... There are a few issues Trump has: * After January 6th, his voting base shrank pretty heavily * After 4 criminal indictments, he may have gained support with Republicans, but lost more support among Democrats and Independents. * The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off. * The demographic he is weakest with is Gen Z, which is adding millions more voting age individuals yearly. * Also he's dumb as fuck There are still Republicans out there who want nothing to do with Trump, but so much of the Republican party is clinging onto him that there's no way they can get rid of him. Current prospective polling has Trump and Biden neck and neck in popular vote. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:976147492] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>There are a few issues Trump has:* After January 6th, his voting base shrank pretty heavily* After 4 criminal indictments, he may have gained support with Republicans, but lost more support among Democrats and Independents.* The demographic he is strongest with is the older generation that is dying off.* The demographic he is weakest with is Gen Z, which is adding millions more voting age individuals yearly.* Also he's dumb as fuckThere are still Republicans out there who want nothing to do with Trump, but so much of the Republican party is clinging onto him that there's no way they can get rid of him.</quote>Current prospective polling has Trump and Biden neck and neck in popular vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/18/23 10:34:08 AM #35:	In a normal election I would be worried about voters having the collective memory of an earthworm. However, while that may still be true, Trump, his cult, and the active politicians most loyal to him are doing absolutely everything in their power to constantly remind the American public how horrible and incompetent they are. The conservative-dominated SCOTUS have shined the world's biggest spotlight on themselves for years to come, and the slim majority of looneys running the asylum in the House are also being very publicly visible in their antics, which diminishes the likelihood that independents / low-info voters just give Biden a blanket blame for all the crap happening under his administration. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:976147561] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>In a normal election I would be worried about voters having the collective memory of an earthworm. However, while that may still be true, Trump, his cult, and the active politicians most loyal to him are doing absolutely everything in their power to constantly remind the American public how horrible and incompetent they are. The conservative-dominated SCOTUS have shined the world's biggest spotlight on themselves for years to come, and the slim majority of looneys running the asylum in the House are also being very publicly visible in their antics, which diminishes the likelihood that independents / low-info voters just give Biden a blanket blame for all the crap happening under his administration. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:34:17 AM #36:	Imagine living in a country where the election priorities are person > party > policy, in that order. lmao what the actual fuck --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147562] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Imagine living in a country where the election priorities are person > party > policy, in that order.lmao what the actual fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 09/18/23 10:35:03 AM #37:	COVxy posted... Current prospective polling has Trump and Biden neck and neck in popular vote. Yeah, but that doesn't address the fact the demographic he's strongest with is dying off and the demographic he's weakest with is growing. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976147576] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Current prospective polling has Trump and Biden neck and neck in popular vote.</quote>Yeah, but that doesn't address the fact the demographic he's strongest with is dying off and the demographic he's weakest with is growing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/18/23 10:35:49 AM #38:	Never underestimate: -The stupidity, gullibility, apathy, and fickleness of the average American. -The cult like fanaticism of the Republican party. Even those who hate Trump hate Democrats/liberals even more and would rather have Trump as president than a Democrat. -The propaganda machine of the media that props up the fascists -Democrat ineptness -Republican cheating and Democrats' lack of a spine and reluctance to put up a fight. His chances might be lower, but the left should never act like a victory is a sure thing. That's what helped get us Trump in the first place. The last election wasn't exactly a landslide either. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:976147592] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Never underestimate:-The stupidity, gullibility, apathy, and fickleness of the average American.-The cult like fanaticism of the Republican party. Even those who hate Trump hate Democrats/liberals even more and would rather have Trump as president than a Democrat.-The propaganda machine of the media that props up the fascists-Democrat ineptness-Republican cheating and Democrats' lack of a spine and reluctance to put up a fight.His chances might be lower, but the left should never act like a victory is a sure thing. That's what helped get us Trump in the first place. The last election wasn't exactly a landslide either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 09/18/23 10:36:54 AM #39:	CableZL posted... Yeah, but that doesn't address the fact the demographic he's strongest with is dying off and the demographic he's weakest with is growing. Typically democrats need to crush the popular vote to get anywhere near electoral college wins due to gerrymandering. 2020 being an extremely close race and the current polling completely contradicts the narrative you are trying to spin. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:976147606] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, but that doesn't address the fact the demographic he's strongest with is dying off and the demographic he's weakest with is growing.</quote>Typically democrats need to crush the popular vote to get anywhere near electoral college wins due to gerrymandering.2020 being an extremely close race and the current polling completely contradicts the narrative you are trying to spin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 09/18/23 10:38:41 AM #41:	Avirosb posted... A lot of them from a disease he initially downplayed. He stopped downplaying it when? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:976147637] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Avirosb posted... </cite><quote>A lot of them from a disease he initially downplayed.</quote>He stopped downplaying it when? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 09/18/23 10:40:48 AM #42:	COVxy posted... Typically democrats need to crush the popular vote to get anywhere near electoral college wins due to gerrymandering. 2020 being an extremely close race and the current polling completely contradicts the narrative you are trying to spin Gerrymandering would affect US House representation, but not a presidential election. Presidential elections are a collection of state-wide popular vote contests with a few exceptions. Also, can you post the polls you're referencing? I'm not doubting what you're saying in regard to polls being close. I'm just curious about the sampling. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976147665] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>Typically democrats need to crush the popular vote to get anywhere near electoral college wins due to gerrymandering.2020 being an extremely close race and the current polling completely contradicts the narrative you are trying to spin</quote>Gerrymandering would affect US House representation, but not a presidential election. Presidential elections are a collection of state-wide popular vote contests with a few exceptions. Also, can you post the polls you're referencing? I'm not doubting what you're saying in regard to polls being close. I'm just curious about the sampling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:40:52 AM #43:	LightHawKnight posted... He stopped downplaying it when? When he wanted to take credit for the vaccine from a very jealous person against the fake chinese hoax. Look, the man is complex, okay? The duality of Donald. --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147669] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite><quote>He stopped downplaying it when?</quote>When he wanted to take credit for the vaccine from a very jealous person against the fake chinese hoax.Look, the man is complex, okay? The duality of Donald. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 09/18/23 10:42:06 AM #44:	Southernfatman posted... Never underestimate: -The stupidity, gullibility, apathy, and fickleness of the average American. You forgot racism. -The cult like fanaticism of the Republican party. Even those who hate Trump hate Democrats/liberals even more and would rather have Trump as president than a Democrat. So much this. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:976147689] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Never underestimate:-The stupidity, gullibility, apathy, and fickleness of the average American.</quote>You forgot racism. <quote>-The cult like fanaticism of the Republican party. Even those who hate Trump hate Democrats/liberals even more and would rather have Trump as president than a Democrat.</quote>So much this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 09/18/23 10:44:35 AM #45:	Questionmarktarius posted... This is why Article 2 itself didn't bother with a popular vote. Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976147719] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>This is why Article 2 itself didn't bother with a popular vote.</quote>Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 09/18/23 10:47:07 AM #46:	CableZL posted... Gerrymandering would affect US House representation, but not a presidential election. Presidential elections are a collection of state-wide popular vote contests with a few exceptions. Also, can you post the polls you're referencing? I'm not doubting what you're saying in regard to polls being close. I'm just curious about the sampling. It would be impossible for the popular vote and electoral college votes to be in discord if what you are saying is true. Gerrymandering was the wrong term to use though. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/13/2024-election-biden-trump-in-statistical-tie-in-new-poll.html They've been pretty stabily neck and neck across many polls with no indication of it really changing. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:976147752] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>Gerrymandering would affect US House representation, but not a presidential election. Presidential elections are a collection of state-wide popular vote contests with a few exceptions. Also, can you post the polls you're referencing? I'm not doubting what you're saying in regard to polls being close. I'm just curious about the sampling.</quote>It would be impossible for the popular vote and electoral college votes to be in discord if what you are saying is true. Gerrymandering was the wrong term to use though.https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/13/2024-election-biden-trump-in-statistical-tie-in-new-poll.htmlThey've been pretty stabily neck and neck across many polls with no indication of it really changing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/18/23 10:47:14 AM #47:	GranTurismo posted... Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they? They didn't, but mostly because most Americans were poor, women, or black. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976147753] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they?</quote>They didn't, but mostly because most Americans were poor, women, or black. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/18/23 10:47:44 AM #48:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This too. Sariana21 posted... You forgot racism. Yeah, I did. That too. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:976147764] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This too.Sariana21 posted... </cite><quote>You forgot racism.</quote>Yeah, I did. That too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 09/18/23 10:49:10 AM #49:	DarthAragorn posted... They didn't, but mostly because most Americans were poor, women, or black. The latter were property so they likely didn't even consider them. --- Really attractive in 144p <cite>Avirosb posted [p:976147783] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>They didn't, but mostly because most Americans were poor, women, or black.</quote>The latter were property so they likely didn't even consider them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/18/23 10:51:13 AM #50:	GranTurismo posted... Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they? Not particularly, no. That's why the house has two-year terms and they're all elected at once, why the senate had long overlapping terms and were appointed by state legislatures, and why the president was elected by a handful of people also appointed by the states. The constitution was engineered around stability and caution, and avoiding fads. Then, the populists screwed it all up around 1900 or so. The president wasn't even supposed to be particularly important - just a warm body to show up as a figurehead, and a safety-valve against a zeitgeist congress. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976147818] in Any of you... [t:80569034]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>Yeah the writers of the Constitution didn't think very highly of most Americans did they?</quote>Not particularly, no. That's why the house has two-year terms and they're all elected at once, why the senate had long overlapping terms and were appointed by state legislatures, and why the president was elected by a handful of people also appointed by the states.The constitution was engineered around stability and caution, and avoiding fads. Then, the populists screwed it all up around 1900 or so. The president wasn't even supposed to be particularly important - just a warm body to show up as a figurehead, and a safety-valve against a zeitgeist congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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