Current Events > Nipah virus with a fatality rate of up to 86% spreads in India

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https://twitter.com/outbreakupdates/status/1702506660009328688?t=PkyxbkWTtUoPmTyuJyzKWA&s=19

Here we go again

nipah virus

Globalization is a thing . There's going to be more epidemics in the future

it's why it's so frustrating that the response to Covid has been so piss poor.

We're not learning from our mistakes and the next one is gonna hit us harder. We're basically that guy in Mass Effect who is constantly dismissing the Reapers while they keep destroying shit.

I would imagine with a death rate that high it will burn out like ebola tends to

Sucks for the population that is exposed. But at least it probably won't spread too much

I hope this google result saying that its spread to humans through animal bodily secretions like blood, saliva, etc is up to date.

UnfairRepresent posted...

it's why it's so frustrating that the response to Covid has been so piss poor.

We're not learning from our mistakes and the next one is gonna hit us harder. We're basically that guy in Mass Effect who is constantly dismissing the Reapers while they keep destroying shit.

That's some real shit. Covid been weakening our collective immunity now we about to find out. At least the climate problem will get better with us all dropping like flies

https://twitter.com/COVID19_disease/status/1702620946526589144?t=h0nDD6e5zGPJ22KH_5EXZA&s=19

Update. Human to human transmission very likely. Highly evolving virus

Shit.

https://twitter.com/EconomicTimes/status/1702692205243027600?t=4Mi6JTMyhGtuAWkwznfHYQ&s=19

Luckily we never have to worry about a zombie virus.

Stupidity would bring us to the brink of extinction, if it didn't wipe us all out anyway.

Fuck, man

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That quoted 40%-70% is far too high of a mortality rate for it to be a grave concern to humanity.

Bio1590 posted...

That quoted 40%-70% is far too high of a mortality rate for it to be a grave concern to humanity.

That's... not true.

Do you know Oyashiro-sama?

To figure if it's a "good" candidate for becoming a pandemic we need to know how sick and how quickly one gets sick after infection.

From what I've read a big part of why Covid did so well was specifically because of how mild it was in many cases and how transmissible it is before you come down with symptoms.

Jfc, the GOP are going to use this for fear mongering and conspiracy theories, no doubt about that.

Lock down all of India and re-direct all flights back or either emergency land on the closest remote island.

"They made up another virus to try and stop Trump from getting re-elected even though he was never de-elected because he won that election."

What's the incubation period? Usually viruses this deadly burn out quickly. It's part of the reason why you don't get global pandemics like this.

It's not highly infectious at least

Pogo_Marimo posted...

That's... not true.

Really high mortality rates tend to kill infected people faster than they can reproduce and spread to others, so even if its quite infectious its much more likely to just burn out the whole supply quickly before it can spread too much.

It's not a guarantee, but it is the likely response of something with as high a mortality rate as might be reported.

Proto_Spark posted...

Really high mortality rates tend to kill infected people faster than they can reproduce and spread to others, so even if its quite infectious its much more likely to just burn out the whole supply quickly before it can spread too much.

It's not a guarantee, but it is the likely response of something with as high a mortality rate as might be reported.

But that's just a correlation. It's not even a rule of thumb. You can just look to the Bubonic plague for a disease with a comparable fatality rate and see that transmissibility is actually dependent on a great deal many more factors than "mortality rate", and simplifying the issue down to mortality rate fundamentally misrepresents how infectious diseases work.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Globalization is a thing . There's going to be more epidemics in the future

it's why it's so frustrating that the response to Covid has been so piss poor.

We're not learning from our mistakes and the next one is gonna hit us harder. We're basically that guy in Mass Effect who is constantly dismissing the Reapers while they keep destroying shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Oc-pstqpc

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God damned bats

Jfc, the GOP are going to use this for fear mongering and conspiracy theories, no doubt about that.

don't forget 'as an excuse to be racist'.

fhqwhgads posted...

God damned bats

Kill all bats (and mosquitos)

Pogo_Marimo posted...

But that's just a correlation. It's not even a rule of thumb. You can just look to the Bubonic plague for a disease with a comparable fatality rate and see that transmissibility is actually dependent on a great deal many more factors than "mortality rate", and simplifying the issue down to mortality rate fundamentally misrepresents how infectious diseases work.

Well said!

these viruses that mutate so frequently are scary af. hope it never gets to the point where we get a krojen like doomsday virus

Pogo_Marimo posted...

But that's just a correlation. It's not even a rule of thumb. You can just look to the Bubonic plague for a disease with a comparable fatality rate and see that transmissibility is actually dependent on a great deal many more factors than "mortality rate", and simplifying the issue down to mortality rate fundamentally misrepresents how infectious diseases work.

I think you're missing the big point here. Bubonic Plague had a completely different mechanism of transmission that person to person. It didn't matter there that an infected person might just die because it wasn't counting on that person to spread. If the report about it being spread person-to-person is accurate (note: I am just taking post 24 at face value), comparing it to Bubonic Plague is apples and oranges.

There are indeed a ton of variables that affect transmissibility, but there's also a world of difference between a zoonotic disease and an anthroponotic disease. And with anthroponotic diseases, mortality rates are a bigger factor.

a disease with human-to-human transmission needs the virus to be able to keep you up and infecting those around you - if its severe enough to leave you bedridden and you die, you don't have much of a chance to spread - making it likely for the virus to just run through all the infected population, and then the only people left either have a built-up immune response or are dead.

I agree it isn't a definite answer, but its definitely a factor here.

Proto_Spark posted...

I think you're missing the big point here. Bubonic Plague had a completely different mechanism of transmission that person to person. It didn't matter there that an infected person might just die because it wasn't counting on that person to spread. If the report about it being spread person-to-person is accurate (note: I am just taking post 24 at face value), comparing it to Bubonic Plague is apples and oranges.

There are indeed a ton of variables that affect transmissibility, but there's also a world of difference between a zoonotic disease and an anthroponotic disease. And with anthroponotic diseases, mortality rates are a bigger factor.

a disease with human-to-human transmission needs the virus to be able to keep you up and infecting those around you - if its severe enough to leave you bedridden and you die, you don't have much of a chance to spread - making it likely for the virus to just run through all the infected population, and then the only people left either have a built-up immune response or are dead.

I agree it isn't a definite answer, but its definitely a factor here.

Bro what the fuck are you even talking about.

Hey man wat wat
Is Nipah virus airborne?
Yes, the virus spreads through respiratory droplets. This means it can spread through the air when a person coughs or sneezes.

Im out

this getting kinda mad scary

FortuneCookie posted...

"They made up another virus to try and stop Trump from getting re-elected even though he was never de-elected because he won that election."

And the last virus never existed. It was a hoax. Until it wasnt because Trump needs to be given credit for the vaccine.

Guarantee theyre going to play both positions and the media wont call them out on it.

How easy is it to catch it?

Pogo_Marimo posted...

Bro what the fuck are you even talking about.

He's saying that it's spread will be a lot more manageable because if 40-70% of people infected are dying we can also assume that there'd be quite a low % of "mild" cases so most people who catch it will be bed bound, not going out everywhere to bars and sporting events and spreading it like wildfire

People kept talking about Covids mortality rate plus a few other factors being a perfect storm for a potential pandemic

Look at ebola and SARS

As for him saying bubonic plague had a different mechanism for transmission, I think he's referring to it spreading by rats and stuff

https://twitter.com/RaffyFlynnArt/status/1703151921702248648?t=Ll4KhC0B4lu1xm1Dv7oJtQ&s=19

OriginalPlain2 posted...

this getting kinda mad scary

higher death rate than original covid and Sars Combined.

The virus has been known for at least 25 years, so at least it's not some unknown pathogen.

like with marburg and ebola if the host dies and they can control the spread the likelyhood of it spreading is low-low.

no need to start fear mongering. nipah is not going to get you.

Talk2DaHand posted...

That's some real shit. Covid been weakening our collective immunity now we about to find out. At least the climate problem will get better with us all dropping like flies

Well that certainly isnt how immunity works.

WalkingPlague posted...

like with marburg and ebola if the host dies and they can control the spread the likelyhood of it spreading is low-low.

no need to start fear mongering. nipah is not going to get you.

WalkingPlague posted...

and they can control the spread

I feel it's unwise to take this for granted nowadays. It's been made clear that humanity's combined incompetence and spite outweigh our survival instinct.

This isn't very nipah.

I already learned about the catastrophe waiting to happen when/if avian flu jumps to humans. You can't scare me more than that. I'm immune now.

If it has a death rate on par with something like Ebola, I'm actually confident humanity will be responsible enough to contain or eliminate it.