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Guns_of_Verdun
09/09/23 8:04:25 AM
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No checkpoints

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Wandering__Hero
09/09/23 8:05:49 AM
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You selected the issue: My issue isn't listed

Help me fix gameplay or technical issues

I'd like to request a refund

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lilORANG
09/09/23 8:06:37 AM
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A poison sewer

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alphagamble
09/09/23 8:07:03 AM
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with a few QTEs for good measure

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AceMos
09/09/23 8:08:08 AM
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i see your challange nad raise you bad motion controlls a flash light with a battery that lasts 3 seconds and is only a small circle

and

a bug at the end of the level that can cause the game to crash forcing you to start the level over

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DnDer
09/09/23 8:09:05 AM
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What in the holy teenage mutant metal gear ninja turtles solid 2 is this?

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Guide
09/09/23 8:09:27 AM
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Honestly, I want a game to do all this deliberately. Except for that bug at the end. Maybe make it an actual enemy, called a CrashBug.

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Notti
09/09/23 8:11:51 AM
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With instakill spikes.

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brestugo
09/09/23 8:12:28 AM
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So gaming hell, then.

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Agonized_rufous
09/09/23 8:12:35 AM
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Thanks Kojima

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DrizztLink
09/09/23 8:38:31 AM
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You forgot three steps:

  1. It is a stealth mission.
  2. Getting caught counts as a failure.
  3. The escort can be detected by enemies.

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Thompson
09/09/23 9:00:50 AM
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The BGM is the Sonic drowning theme on a loop.

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KnightofShikari
09/09/23 9:10:51 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/6/AABPmqAAE0yc.jpg

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GeminiGuy
09/09/23 9:24:53 AM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/uXF8Ykf0Ke0?si=EHXJ-sEjS8vVvLjk

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Monferno_AQW
09/09/23 9:26:45 AM
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And a bullet hell boss at the end.

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Kloe_Rinz
09/09/23 9:30:00 AM
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the escortee moves just slightly slower than your walking speed
if you get too far ahead they stop and wait for you to come back
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MisterPengy
09/09/23 9:31:42 AM
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Timed underwater stealth escort mission in a poison sewer filled with instant-death spikes, with a long, unskippable cutscene, no checkpoints, and there is a difficult boss at the end, before you can save.

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PoopPotato
09/09/23 9:34:48 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
the escortee moves just slightly slower than your walking speed
if you get too far ahead they stop and wait for you to come back
This one set me over the edge.

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HudGard
09/09/23 9:56:47 AM
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Your party members are Navi and Donald Duck.

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SwayM
09/09/23 9:58:55 AM
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Idk when or why sewer levels became a hated thing? I cant even think of one off the top of my head.

Now if you said like Middle Eastern desert.omfg just kill me now.

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littlebro07
09/09/23 10:03:48 AM
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Guide posted...
Honestly, I want a game to do all this deliberately. Except for that bug at the end. Maybe make it an actual enemy, called a CrashBug.

Yeah, a game that purposely does all the worst gaming sins would be kind of funny. Make the main character a Deadpool-like guy who acknowledges and complains about all of the dumb shit that happens


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Gritty
09/09/23 10:06:47 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
Yeah, a game that purposely does all the worst gaming sins would be kind of funny. Make the main character a Deadpool-like guy who acknowledges and complains about all of the dumb shit that happens

that would actually be pretty fun to have a sarcastic main character, who destroys every video game, trope/sin being committed in game. Very meta
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Thompson
09/09/23 10:10:10 AM
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SwayM posted...
Idk when or why sewer levels became a hated thing? I cant even think of one off the top of my head.
My first sewer level experience was in Redneck Rampage.
It's a dark, cramped, and confusing maze where many corridors are submerged or seem to loop back to areas already visited, and the only enemies are those annoying little cackling shits (literally, they're made of crap) who scream "dundreeeeee, dundreeeeee" in a really shrill voice.

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Thompson
09/09/23 10:11:38 AM
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Gritty posted...
that would actually be pretty fun to have a sarcastic main character, who destroys every video game, trope/sin being committed in game. Very meta
Matt Hazard was like that. Pity that gameplay-wise it was kind of just okay.

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VampireCoyote
09/09/23 10:21:15 AM
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DnDer posted...
What in the holy teenage mutant metal gear ninja turtles solid 2 is this?

lmao my thoughts exactly

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_____Cait
09/09/23 10:22:44 AM
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Also it is a prison escape sequence in a jrpg

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Guns_of_Verdun
09/09/23 10:51:23 AM
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_____Cait posted...
Also it is a prison escape sequence in a jrpg
I like FFIX :(

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mach25687
09/09/23 10:53:13 AM
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Man, fuck escort missions in general.

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DnDer
09/09/23 10:58:50 AM
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SwayM posted...
Idk when or why sewer levels became a hated thing? I cant even think of one off the top of my head.

Parasite Eve was a masterpiece of its generation, but the sewer level was a needless maze and dungeon grind to add a couple hours of play onto an elegantly "short" RPG.

All the other locations made sense and had a narrative flow, and then... the Chinatown sewers. Just... why?

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Guns_of_Verdun
09/09/23 11:00:10 AM
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I can't think of a single "good" sewer level in any game ever.

Did one of the 2D sonics have a Sewer Level?

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Torgo
09/09/23 11:03:00 AM
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Never got the hate for underwater mission. Sewers are overused though.

Escort missions are not always bad, but there are so many ways they can become frustrating if not programmed well.

Timed... depends on the game and genre and goal of the mission.

Long, unskippable cutscenes... just NO.


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Euripides
09/09/23 11:03:22 AM
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Sounds like many side missions in GTA: SA

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Killmonger
09/09/23 11:11:15 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I can't think of a single "good" sewer level in any game ever.

Did one of the 2D sonics have a Sewer Level?
The sewer levels in Crash Bandicoot 2.

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Notti
09/12/23 2:15:50 AM
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Monferno_AQW posted...
And a bullet hell boss at the end.

With your weapons that break.

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Trumble
09/12/23 3:06:17 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I can't think of a single "good" sewer level in any game ever.
Crash Bandicoot 2 has three that are pretty good.

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YellowSUV
09/12/23 3:10:18 AM
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Baulder's Gate 3 sort of has one of those (with no long cutscene) and it is actually fun.

You go to an exploded underwater prison and try to save the prisoners within a limited amount of turns. No actual swimming though.

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Wandering__Hero
09/12/23 8:03:19 AM
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Tbh I never found the underwater level in turtles 1 that hard even as a kid. Considering how obnoxiously difficult the game was I dont get why people honed in on this

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Priere
09/12/23 8:06:03 AM
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Gotta love the long unskippable cutscene at the start of a checkpoint. Especially if its in a level where instant death is a factor.

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Jiek_Fafn
09/12/23 8:06:16 AM
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With a tutorial that stops every few seconds to teach you how to do things like move the camera and shoot

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brestugo
09/12/23 8:17:35 AM
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Throw in a UI littered with icons and widgets. The least important of which are highlighted or flashing.

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bobspacethespacecow
09/12/23 8:37:27 AM
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i never played Nosferatu in VtM:B because the sewers pissed me off

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Aressar
09/12/23 5:18:57 PM
#43:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I can't think of a single "good" sewer level in any game ever.

Did one of the 2D sonics have a Sewer Level?

The sewer level from Shadows Of The Empire was pretty good and challenging. Scary yes, but fun.

Also the Genesis-era Sonic games didn't really have a sewer level specifically, but Hydrocity Zone from Sonic 3 was a surprisingly fun and cool water level.

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brestugo
09/12/23 5:23:53 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I can't think of a single "good" sewer level in any game ever.


I liked the sewers in Bloodborne but it wasn't a whole level.

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Butterfiles
09/12/23 5:24:03 PM
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Playing as 9S

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KFHEWUI
09/12/23 5:27:21 PM
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Do not forget one hit death and brain dead AI

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Iyami
09/12/23 5:27:43 PM
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Wandering__Hero posted...
Tbh I never found the underwater level in turtles 1 that hard even as a kid. Considering how obnoxiously difficult the game was I dont get why people honed in on this
Because it's where most people gave up
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skullmagic2
09/12/23 5:32:39 PM
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Don't forget a repetitive voiceover from an NPC urgently insisting you complete the objective without giving any clues, guidance, or useful information to help you do that.

And a map marker/guide that gices incoherent directions esp. when stairs or doors are involved.

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Guns_of_Verdun
09/12/23 7:44:10 PM
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brestugo posted...


I liked the sewers in Bloodborne
doubt

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Kami_no_Kami
09/12/23 7:53:29 PM
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I tend to like sewer levels. Theyre very atmospheric. Claustrophobic, dank, dark, spooky, etc.
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