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CableZL
08/30/23 4:58:46 PM
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-shooting-girl-firearm-safety_n_64ef77e3e4b0ca54cc6bd8f5

A 4-year-old in Tennessee died after being shot point-blank in the chest Sunday by a woman who said she was teaching the girl firearm safety, according to authorities.
Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse in the death of Evangaline Gunter.

According to a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation arrest warrant obtained by HuffPost, Runions told police that she had taken a 9 mm handgun out of its case, removed the magazine and called Evangaline over to show her firearm safety.

Runions pressed the barrel of the gun against the childs chest and pulled the trigger, police said she told them.

I don't have a problem with the idea of people owning guns for self defense, but I feel like we generally haven't shown that we're responsible enough to have them as a society.

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Accolon
08/30/23 5:05:33 PM
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I'm feeling like that was just an excuse for this monster to murder a child

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DarkBuster22904
08/30/23 5:05:46 PM
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what fucking "firearm safety" lesson involves putting the barrel to a 4 year old's chest and pulling the trigger?

I must have missed that fucking lesson in the courses that I took.

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Gremlynn
08/30/23 5:06:24 PM
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"See, if you hold it like this, that isn't very safe. case in point"

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ROBANN_88
08/30/23 5:06:27 PM
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That is not how firearm safety training is supposed to go

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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 5:07:16 PM
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charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse

CableZL posted...
I don't have a problem with the idea of people owning guns for self defense, but I feel like we generally haven't shown that we're responsible enough to have them as a society.

No law has ever prevented crime. All the law can do is define punishments when you do it anyway.
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Sandalorn
08/30/23 5:08:08 PM
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This is so America.

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thronedfire2
08/30/23 5:08:31 PM
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what she did is literally the opposite of firearm safety.

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Were_Wyrm
08/30/23 5:09:40 PM
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To get them ready for school.

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flussence
08/30/23 5:09:47 PM
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The kid will never grow up to handle firearms as lethally stupid as this woman did, so mission accomplished i guess?

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Turbam
08/30/23 5:10:15 PM
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There ain't no god damn way she should be able to use a "I swear I was just teaching safety" as an excuse

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A_Good_Boy
08/30/23 5:10:37 PM
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Sorta like the apocryphal tale of the dude that threw himself against the glass in a skyscraper as a safety demonstration, except this one was a psychopath that used a gun to murder her own child.

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ragnarokius
08/30/23 5:12:08 PM
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Pretty sure part of fire arm safety is assuming every gun is loaded and I've never even fired one.

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 5:13:00 PM
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Accolon posted...
I'm feeling like that was just an excuse for this monster to murder a child

Yes this.

She just said that shit to lure the child over. You don't teach safety by putting the barrel up against someone's chest. There's no fucking lesson there.

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Trumble
08/30/23 5:13:29 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
No law has ever prevented crime. All the law can do is define punishments when you do it anyway.
There are people out there who would commit crimes if they could get away with it, but don't because they don't want to get caught. The law prevents their crimes. It doesn't prevent crimes from people who don't think they'll get caught, or those who don't care.

Or in simpler terms: Laws won't eliminate it, but they may reduce it.

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dioxxys
08/30/23 5:13:54 PM
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When will fucking idiots realize taking out the magazine doesnt make a gun "safe"?

So many people have died because of this, a bullet can still remain in the chamber.
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Prismsblade
08/30/23 5:14:22 PM
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I'd Like to see the reenactment of how that played out. Assuming she isn't lying, and she very likely is.

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garan
08/30/23 5:16:29 PM
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Crono99 posted...
Why the fuck does a 4 year old need to learn "firearm safety"


This, Jesus Fucking Christ! Firearm safety for children is to keep the guns locked up so the kids can't access them.

Death penalty for being such a braindead piece of shit.
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 5:19:55 PM
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Read the rest of the article, and it's obvious there's some "wicked stepmother" bullshittery going on here, long before the kid got blown away.
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Strider102
08/30/23 5:21:45 PM
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Ah yes, that is definitely how you teach firearm safety. You point a gun at someone's chest and pull the trigger. Even if a gun is unloaded, no rounds in the chamber, safety on you don't do shit like that to teach firearm safety.

Perhaps she should have been taught firearm safety instead of the kid.

Jesus fucking christ these people.

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Zikten
08/30/23 5:22:43 PM
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She wanted to kill that kid for some reason, and thinks she found a way to outsmart justice
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mercurydude
08/30/23 5:36:04 PM
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Zikten posted...
She wanted to kill that kid for some reason, and thinks she found a way to outsmart justice

Unfortunately, republicans are so gung-ho about guns (much more so than they are about the right of any person to live), that they have convinced people that they can get away with murder just by framing their crime as something to do with firearms safety.

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AceMos
08/30/23 5:39:59 PM
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this is fucking disgusting

and its once again me a person who has never seen a real gun before knowing more about fire arm safety

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SlamVook
08/30/23 5:41:35 PM
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Only in America

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Ruvan22
08/30/23 5:43:37 PM
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Someone she placed with temporarily :(

A 4-year-old in Tennessee died after being shot point-blank in the chest Sunday by a woman who said she was teaching the girl firearm safety, according to authorities.

Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse in the death of Evangaline Gunter.

The childs parents, Adam and Josie Gunter, told ABC affiliate WATE that Evangaline had been in temporary custody at a home in Rockwood, which Runions shared with girlfriend Christina Daniels and another child, a 7-year-old girl.
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Ruvan22
08/30/23 5:44:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
No law has ever prevented crime. All the law can do is define punishments when you do it anyway.

You frequently say this - and never respond to posts illustrating otherwise. Is this your attempt to say gun regulation wouldn't have stopped this crime?
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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 5:46:13 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Is this your attempt to say gun regulation wouldn't have stopped this crime?
which regulation would have?
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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 5:53:53 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
which regulation would have?
I dunno. Maybe something like no guns for foster parents.

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GranAures
08/30/23 5:55:43 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Even if a gun is unloaded, no rounds in the chamber, safety on you don't do shit like that to teach firearm safety.
And she would have been taught that if she actually took a firearm safety course.

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DarkBuster22904
08/30/23 6:30:15 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
No law has ever prevented crime. All the law can do is define punishments when you do it anyway.
Exactly. That's why it's still super easy to get an abortion in Texas and Ohio. The laws and regulations didn't actually stop anyone fro-

wait a minute.

Thisis an illustrative point. I am, in fact, very pro choice

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Ruvan22
08/31/23 9:21:14 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
which regulation would have?

As Tyranthraxus said, increase regulations around guns in foster parents homes. Or increased regulations around storage of guns. Or deeper background checks/increased regulations around enforcing them. Or increased regulations around initial gun ownership (like learning driver's licenses).

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Cemith
09/01/23 9:13:54 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
what fucking "firearm safety" lesson involves putting the barrel to a 4 year old's chest and pulling the trigger?

I must have missed that fucking lesson in the courses that I took.
American firearm safety

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Jokeaccountinc
09/02/23 8:03:53 PM
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"woke shows are the problem tho"

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OriginalPlain2
09/02/23 8:05:56 PM
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I saw this topic last night and still dont know wth

RIP the young girl

this shocked me as well

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IfGodCouldDie
09/02/23 8:08:17 PM
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If you have a gun and children in the house it is important to teach them that as soon as they can understand it.

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DKBananaSlamma
09/02/23 8:10:55 PM
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DKBananaSlamma
09/02/23 8:11:54 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
If you have a gun and children in the house it is important to teach them that as soon as they can understand it.
Yeah...when they're like 10 or 12. Not when they can't even read or have no motor skills or barely even understand what's going on around them. You put the firearm in a safe place outside of reach regardless.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/02/23 8:16:55 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Yeah...when they're like 10 or 12. Not when they can't even read or have no motor skills or barely even understand what's going on around them. You put the firearm in a safe place outside of reach regardless.
I taken my kids out shooting since they were about 4 years old they didn't handle guns until about 6 so I was adamant to make sure to teach them gun safety right away.

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DKBananaSlamma
09/02/23 8:18:57 PM
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I got gun safety when I was 11. 4 is way too young for that

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thekosmicfool
09/02/23 8:20:06 PM
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Just a freak accident. Could've happened to anyone. No way to prevent it. Thoughts and prayers.

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ModernPost
09/02/23 8:25:11 PM
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Tennessee is the state legislature that expelled three members for wanting to talk about gun control.

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Requiem
09/02/23 8:27:08 PM
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CableZL posted...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-shooting-girl-firearm-safety_n_64ef77e3e4b0ca54cc6bd8f5

A 4-year-old in Tennessee died after being shot point-blank in the chest Sunday by a woman who said she was teaching the girl firearm safety, according to authorities.
Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse in the death of Evangaline Gunter.

According to a Tennessee Bureau of Investigation arrest warrant obtained by HuffPost, Runions told police that she had taken a 9 mm handgun out of its case, removed the magazine and called Evangaline over to show her firearm safety.

Runions pressed the barrel of the gun against the childs chest and pulled the trigger, police said she told them.

I don't have a problem with the idea of people owning guns for self defense, but I feel like we generally haven't shown that we're responsible enough to have them as a society.

Pretty sure it's a lie.

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ablegator
09/02/23 8:28:12 PM
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Did the child have a skateboard at the time?

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bfslick50
09/02/23 8:29:29 PM
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Trumble posted...
There are people out there who would commit crimes if they could get away with it, but don't because they don't want to get caught. The law prevents their crimes. It doesn't prevent crimes from people who don't think they'll get caught, or those who don't care.

Or in simpler terms: Laws won't eliminate it, but they may reduce it.

Plus regulations and oversight do a lot in terms of prevention, especially when it comes to unsupervised idiots that didnt mean to cause harm.

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bfslick50
09/02/23 8:30:55 PM
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Requiem posted...
Pretty sure it's a lie.

There is a very good chance the last words the kid heard were but see its harmless when the safety is on and maybe they were still conscious for the whoops.

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Requiem
09/03/23 12:10:17 AM
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bfslick50 posted...
There is a very good chance the last words the kid heard were but see its harmless when the safety is on and maybe they were still conscious for the whoops.

Yeah, but...

Before the shooting, Evangaline and the older girl were being punished that morning by Runions for not waking up the women and for eating Daniels food without permission, according to the warrant and a statement from Russell Johnson, district attorney general for Tennessees 9th Judicial District. Runions struck both girls with a sandal before forcing them to stand in different corners of the womens bedroom, authorities said the older girl told them.

Sort of feel like the woman decided to kill the kid and then call it an accident.
Granted, it's the case of whether either she was evil or she was evil and really that stupid.

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