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saspa
08/30/23 10:41:04 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_Resurrections#External_links

I had no idea Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending was by them. That's fucking crazy how much goodwill The Matrix has given them, even after The Matrix sequels.

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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 10:41:54 AM
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I liked Speed Racer, dammit.
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ClayGuida
08/30/23 10:42:16 AM
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They got 4 films out of an amazing concept. Good enough career.

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Avirosb
08/30/23 10:42:33 AM
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The second Matrix movie was basically their Empire Strikes Back yet few people complain about the latter,
it is a mystery

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saspa
08/30/23 10:43:15 AM
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I guess they did write the screenplay for the movie V for Vendetta, which I actually liked and still like so that's something. Wonder why they didn't direct it though.

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Torgo
08/30/23 10:43:59 AM
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Sometimes this happens with a director.

Robert Rodriguez showed so much promise with the El Mariachi movies and From Duck till Dawn.

Then he made a bunch of kids movies and some terrible joint productions that showed off how much better of a director Quentin Tarrantino is.

Haven't seen much of his work lately, has he returned to form?

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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 10:44:46 AM
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Torgo posted...
Then he made a bunch of kids movies and some terrible joint productions that showed off how much better of a director Quentin Tarrantino is.
Don't shit on Spy Kids.
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mario2000
08/30/23 10:45:04 AM
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Torgo posted...
From Duck till Dawn

I know this is a typo but I want to see this happen.

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 10:45:09 AM
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Jupiter Ascending was fucking great

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ZevLoveDOOM
08/30/23 10:45:11 AM
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i haven't seen any of their works since V for Vendetta.

tbf, i'm surprised to find out they were involved in that movie cause i thought it was someone else... lol
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Torgo
08/30/23 10:46:06 AM
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Avirosb posted...
The second Matrix movie was basically their Empire Strikes Back yet few people complain about the latter,
it is a mystery

People hate the second Matrix movie, but I think it's actually quite good despite some shitty dated CG. The problem is the follow up movie was genuinely terrible. I know some people now have been told to hate Return of the Jedi, but at the time it was liked and I genuinely think it's my favorite Star Wars movie... so it has it's fans unlike the third Matrix movie.

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 10:47:14 AM
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Torgo posted...
People hate the second Matrix movie, but I think it's actually quite good despite some shitty dated CG. The problem is the follow up movie was genuinely terrible. I know some people now have been told to hate Return of the Jedi, but at the time it was liked and I genuinely think it's my favorite Star Wars movie... so it has it's fans unlike the third Matrix movie.

I disagree the third matrix movie was much better than the second movie.

The second movie is irredeemable trash.

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Irony
08/30/23 10:48:08 AM
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The best scene in 2 was Neo vs the Smiths but that was ruined by the bowling pin knock over sound effect.

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ClayGuida
08/30/23 10:49:17 AM
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2nd film was mind blowing and had like 5 amazing set pieces. The chase scene is among the GOAT ever.

I feel like the 2nd film promised so much that the 3rd just outright abandoned, which is weird as fuck, since they were filmed together and released months apart.

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Raikuro
08/30/23 10:49:47 AM
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Sense8 wasn't that bad
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Torgo
08/30/23 10:50:17 AM
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Irony posted...
The best scene in 2 was Neo vs the Smiths vut that was ruined by the bowling pin knock over sound effect.

That scene was the shitty CG I was talking about too.

The fight scene in the mansion that diverges and then bleeds into the highway chase sequence is still just full on amazing. One of my favorite fight set pieces of any film.

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Torgo
08/30/23 10:51:54 AM
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ClayGuida posted...
2nd film was mind blowing and had like 5 amazing set pieces. The chase scene is among the GOAT ever.

I feel like the 2nd film promised so much that the 3rd just outright abandoned, which is weird as fuck, since they were filmed together and released months apart.

Yes this 100%... I remember at the time audiences were a little confused by the abrupt and cryptic ending of the second movie, but hyped for the next movie and trilogy ending.

Then the third movie comes out and it's a dull slog with very few memorable scenes.

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gamer167
08/30/23 10:52:44 AM
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Matrix 2 wasnt great as a whole, but it still had a lot of really cool scenes.
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ai123
08/30/23 10:52:54 AM
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Cloud Atlas is an amazing film. Especially the comedy segments with Jim Broadbent. And Tom Hanks as a Cockney gangster! The 70s conspiracy thriller bits were excellent too.

Didn't enjoy the futuristic parts so much, but overall a terrific film.

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creativerealms
08/30/23 10:54:24 AM
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Even their good stuff wasn't that good. Matrix is extremely dull for threw fourths of the movie.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/30/23 10:54:29 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Jupiter Ascending was fucking great
Maybe in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. Eddie Redmayne's performance was hysterical.

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Torgo
08/30/23 10:54:37 AM
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gamer167 posted...
Matrix 2 wasnt great as a whole, but it still had a lot of really cool scenes.

I disagree, but then... it has a similar structure to back to the Future 2 where everything was in flux and hyper liminal, which most people didn't like but I thought was far better than the cheezy wild west part 3.

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Avirosb
08/30/23 10:56:54 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Even their good stuff wasn't that good. Matrix is extremely dull for threw fourths of the movie.
That's because it's philosophical and stuff.

Matrix's biggest crime was giving the world the red pill/ blue pill nonsense that was frequently used incorrectly by conspiracy theorists.

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Torgo
08/30/23 10:57:56 AM
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Avirosb posted...
That's because it's philosophical and stuff.

Matrix's biggest crime was giving the world the red pill/ blue pill nonsense that was frequently used incorrectly by conspiracy theorists.

Yeah, and misogynistic incels types that are now engaged in anti-trans hate and terrorism.

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TheOnionKnight
08/30/23 10:59:54 AM
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Speed Racer is incredible. I avoided it for years because it got such bad reviews, and then when I finally watched it, I was blown away. That movie is gonna get reappraised in the future, and people will realize it's a masterpiece that was ahead of its time.

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Robot2600
08/30/23 11:02:57 AM
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speed racer sucks

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Kimbos_Egg
08/30/23 11:03:22 AM
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Torgo posted...
From Duck till Dawn

very different movie.

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Glob
08/30/23 11:03:52 AM
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saspa posted...
I guess they did write the screenplay for the movie V for Vendetta, which I actually liked and still like so that's something. Wonder why they didn't direct it though.

Theres this and the first Matrix in the plus column. But yeah, they arent particularly talented people.
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Avirosb
08/30/23 11:09:57 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
speed racer sucks
Momma didn't raise 'em right

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Blue_Target
08/30/23 11:12:38 AM
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I now remember that awesome Speed Racer game on the DS

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Tyranthraxus
08/30/23 11:14:19 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Maybe in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. Eddie Redmayne's performance was hysterical.

Nah. The only dumb part of the movie was the bees. Everything else was great. But I especially loved the entitlement scene. Probably one of the best scenes in all cinema history.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/30/23 11:15:54 AM
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The Matrix sequels aren't nearly as bad as their reputation would lead you to believe, especially compared to the endless schlock of sequels we get today. At least they tried to say something creative.

Cloud Atlas was OK but should have been better, I haven't read the book but I wish they tied the multiple storylines together better, at the end it all just seemed kind of pointless?

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Hayame_Zero
08/30/23 11:17:06 AM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
Speed Racer is incredible. I avoided it for years because it got such bad reviews, and then when I finally watched it, I was blown away. That movie is gonna get reappraised in the future, and people will realize it's a masterpiece that was ahead of its time.
I remember when Time published their top films of 2008, people threw a fit because Speed Racer was not only on the list, but higher than TDK. And I saw no problem with that. It's fucking awesome.

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Avirosb
08/30/23 11:21:36 AM
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It had John Goodman in it. Goodman!

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Jagr_68
08/30/23 11:25:05 AM
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Irony posted...
The best scene in 2 was Neo vs the Smiths but that was ruined by the bowling pin knock over sound effect.

Lol thought I was the only one who effing loved that, which originally led to not one, not two, but a TRIPLE take to make sure it wasn't just my brain playing tricks with me.

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Questionmarktarius
08/30/23 11:25:41 AM
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Avirosb posted...
It had John Goodman in it. Goodman!

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CommonStar
08/30/23 11:25:49 AM
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Sense8 was great
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Archgoat
08/30/23 11:27:13 AM
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Avirosb posted...
The second Matrix movie was basically their Empire Strikes Back yet few people complain about the latter,
it is a mystery

One is a good film, the other isn't. It is that simple.

I remember a friend of mine being so excited for the Matrix sequels saying it was out generations Star Wars. That didn't pan out, but I would say we got our generations Star Wars in the LotR movies.
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VampireCoyote
08/30/23 11:34:25 AM
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Cloud Atlas is a fucking masterpiece.

The Wachowskis are honestly brilliant but audiences just dont get it they want basic formulaic shit and they dont produce that

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Avirosb
08/30/23 11:39:10 AM
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Archgoat posted...
One is a good film, the other isn't. It is that simple.

Eeeeh. They got lucky in the costume department.

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Xenogears15
08/30/23 11:41:01 AM
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Bro, they haven't done all trash.

Sense8 was an amazing show...at first. If Netflix would have let it end properly instead of the rush job we got it probably would have been one of my favorite series of all time.

I still hope for a remake some day with a different cast...

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Dabrikishaw15
08/30/23 11:41:42 AM
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Prismsblade
08/30/23 11:49:49 AM
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They were crappy directors that simply got lucky pretty much. The music equalvelant of a one hit wonder tbh.

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Avirosb
08/30/23 11:53:28 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
They were crappy directors that simply got lucky pretty much. The music equalvelant of a one hit wonder tbh.

All directors are governed by luck, even good ones.
The Lord of the Rings could easily have been a 2 movie long musical with Tom Bombadil.

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Garlands_Soul
08/30/23 11:58:17 AM
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Speed racer rules

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Ludwig_Von_2
08/30/23 11:59:39 AM
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Let me guess: you saw the honest trailers about speed racer which is what inspired you to make this topic?

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DnDer
08/30/23 12:08:33 PM
#48:


Raikuro posted...
Sense8 wasn't that bad

Hear, hear!

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DnDer
08/30/23 12:11:48 PM
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TheOnionKnight posted...
That movie is gonna get reappraised in the future, and people will realize it's a masterpiece that was ahead of its time.

I don't know about masterpiece. It certainly deserves a better reputation than it has, though.

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vycebrand2
08/30/23 12:12:30 PM
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Avirosb posted...
The second Matrix movie was basically their Empire Strikes Back yet few people complain about the latter,
it is a mystery
I enjoyed them to be honest. I never understood the hate

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