Current Events > Column: Scientists used to love Twitter. Thanks to Elon Musk, they're giving up

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COVxy
08/25/23 10:52:23 PM
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https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-08-25/column-scientists-used-to-love-twitter-thanks-to-elon-musk-theyre-giving-up-on-it

Yeah, Twitter used to be indespensible for finding new papers and discussing with colleagues around the world. I think I found probably 90% of the papers i've read over the past 5 years using Twitter.

Now the service is terrible. Nothing has popped up as a viable replacement. People are going to fucking linkedin lol.

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LordRazziel
08/25/23 10:54:22 PM
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We need an Xorcist to cast this man out of the internet.

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Anony1125
08/25/23 10:59:46 PM
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why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?

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GrandConjuraton
08/25/23 11:01:36 PM
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Anony1125 posted...
why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?
Elon isn't a "small" setback.

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Robot2600
08/26/23 1:44:23 AM
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  1. jstor
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  3. interlibrary loan

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Razor
08/26/23 1:48:57 AM
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What's different? Aren't the same resources still there?
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hockeybub89
08/26/23 1:55:43 AM
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Blue checkmarks be like: "Good riddance, commie science!!"

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MedeaLysistrata
08/26/23 1:57:43 AM
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Free stuff always falls apart, what can you do

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hereforemnant
08/26/23 1:57:51 AM
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This was one of Elon's goals that others & myself included have come to the conclusion, was one of his end goals the whole time. Destroy the freedom of communication & discussion on Twitter, & hemorrhage people's abilities to communicate.

Then once he's gutted that ability, the 1984 shit starts when it's harder for people to talk & reach one another

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Dark_Arbron
08/26/23 1:58:26 AM
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Anony1125 posted...
why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?

They dont. We wouldnt be where we are today without science pushing hard.

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Dark_Arbron
08/26/23 1:59:28 AM
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Razor posted...
What's different? Aren't the same resources still there?

Theres no protection against misinformation and bad actors anymore.

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TetsuoS2
08/26/23 2:01:17 AM
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Anony1125 posted...
why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?

why do you ask stupid questions

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Robot2600
08/26/23 8:18:24 AM
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start a science discord

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Southernfatman
08/26/23 8:20:09 AM
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Why can't a replacement get big already?

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Ricemills
08/26/23 8:20:54 AM
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The worst part is, if the real scientists left X, their position will be filled by right wing "scientists" and spread disinformation because nobody left to debunk them.

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GranTurismo
08/26/23 8:23:27 AM
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COVxy posted...
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-08-25/column-scientists-used-to-love-twitter-thanks-to-elon-musk-theyre-giving-up-on-it

Yeah, Twitter used to be indespensible for finding new papers and discussing with colleagues around the world. I think I found probably 90% of the papers i've read over the past 5 years using Twitter.

Now the service is terrible. Nothing has popped up as a viable replacement. People are going to fucking linkedin lol.
Are you saying that musk is not a man of science? But he's a genius right, or wants people to believe he is?
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creativerealms
08/26/23 8:28:40 AM
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Even without Elon I could see Twitter being far less friendly to Scientists since 2020. And that Musk who maybe they thought would be on their side, just made things worse.

It is funny Elon was seen as a Futurist for a while. That is someone who looks at the future with an eye towards innovation and change. Someone like that shouldn't be hostile toward science and on the surface Elon seems like such a person. But it's an act.

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Dark_Arbron
08/26/23 8:32:56 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Even without Elon I could see Twitter being far less friendly to Scientists since 2020. And that Musk who maybe they thought would be on their side, just made things worse.

It is funny Elon was seen as a Futurist for a while. That is someone who looks at the future with an eye towards innovation and change. Someone like that shouldn't be hostile toward science and on the surface Elon seems like such a person. But it's an act.

Eh he might just repeat the talking points. Weve suggested before that many Republican talking heads know vaccines work, they know Trump lost the election, they know climate change is a threat. But they go against that knowledge because theyve got talking points to make and donors to appeal to.

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creativerealms
08/26/23 8:36:11 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Eh he might just repeat the talking points. Weve suggested before that many Republican talking heads know vaccines work, they know Trump lost the election, they know climate change is a threat. But they go against that knowledge because theyve got talking points to make and donors to appeal to.
Acting against what you know is the most anti-science and anti-reality position you can take.

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Dark_Arbron
08/26/23 8:37:21 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Acting against what you know is the most anti-science and anti-reality position you can take.

Im not sticking up for Musk, to clarify. Pushing misinformation is endorsing and embracing it.

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SpiritSephiroth
08/26/23 9:17:36 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Theres no protection against misinformation and bad actors anymore.

Twitter has always been a cesspool of misinformation. I'd argue that community notes makes it better >_>

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Gritty
08/26/23 9:23:43 AM
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Anony1125 posted...
why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?
What is utterly fucking stupid comment on your part?
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TheHorus
08/26/23 9:48:52 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Twitter has always been a cesspool of misinformation. I'd argue that community notes makes it better >_>
Which makes it surprising that such a feature was allowed to exist in the first place.

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GranTurismo
08/27/23 10:52:39 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
Are you saying that musk is not a man of science? But he's a genius right, or wants people to believe he is?

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GranTurismo
08/27/23 10:54:05 AM
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Anony1125 posted...
why do scientists always give up after small setbacks?
They do? Where did you get this from?
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Revelation34
08/27/23 10:55:29 AM
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hereforemnant posted...
This was one of Elon's goals that others & myself included have come to the conclusion, was one of his end goals the whole time. Destroy the freedom of communication & discussion on Twitter, & hemorrhage people's abilities to communicate.

Then once he's gutted that ability, the 1984 shit starts when it's harder for people to talk & reach one another


Elon Musk is the government?

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chaos_knight
08/27/23 10:57:56 AM
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America will be outright fascist before I die, unfortunately.

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GranTurismo
08/27/23 11:01:30 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
America will be outright fascist before I die, unfortunately.
Are you absolutely certain of this?
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chaos_knight
08/27/23 11:02:56 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
Are you absolutely certain of this?

Yep.

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eggcorn
08/27/23 11:03:24 AM
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Wah don't like it don't use it. It's that simple.

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GranTurismo
08/27/23 11:06:43 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Yep.
Why do you believe so though?
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chaos_knight
08/27/23 11:11:41 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
Why do you believe so though?

Not responding more to your sealioning

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Alucard188
08/27/23 11:13:19 AM
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The best thing Musk did was buy Twitter, because it forced everyone to evaluate what was important to them and how much of an issue it is with one person in control of the dissemination of information. Musk's Twitter is all but useless for news aggregation. It's a haven for rage baiters and Musk sycophants. I barely post on it now.

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Notti
08/30/23 6:28:49 AM
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Elon assuredly believes in destroying people's ability to get accurate info, and instead views communication as a way to manipulate and lie to get what he wants.

So no wonder people who want to share accurate info want to run away.

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Tom_Joad
08/30/23 6:40:22 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
1. jstor
2. references
3. interlibrary loan

This. Especially JSTOR.

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