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Kain_Highwind 08/21/23 9:53:19 AM #1: |
https://twitter.com/destinlegarie/status/1693540337380381167?s=46&t=TyKHo4P14OcujN-xcvKchQ
https://www.nintendolife.com/features/hands-on-metal-gear-solid-master-collection-vol-1-could-be-so-much-more-but-isnt Speaking of missed opportunities, we were also surprised to discover that Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty and Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater are based on the HD Collection editions that were released for PS3 and Xbox 360 back in 2012. We say based on, but in truth Konami has made no effort to hide this fact (and to be fair it did announce them as such with an admittedly slim banner on the collections promotional material). The menus for both games just flat out have HD Edition plastered on them, with 2012 Konami still there as well. These versions run at 720p, and the Switch version is also seemingly capped at 30fps, despite the original HD releases running at 60fps. Considering the Switch is more powerful than the two consoles that previously held this pair of games, its disappointing to say the least that the frames have been halved. We asked about performance on PS5, Xbox Series X, plus the newly announced PS4 release; Konami clarified that the games will be targeting the same resolution (720p) and frame rate of the initial HD releases. Given that Switch isnt running them at 60fps, we suppose well have to wait and see how things fare on the other platforms hard to believe Konami used to be one of the best --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/21/23 9:55:00 AM #2: |
It's a direct port of the PS3 collection
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cousinvini 08/21/23 9:57:52 AM #3: |
wow... so this is the power of the switch... wow
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_____Cait 08/21/23 9:59:10 AM #4: |
Honestly these games are kind of ok at 30fps.
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Robot2600 08/21/23 9:59:38 AM #5: |
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Jagr_68 08/21/23 10:03:22 AM #6: |
Irony posted...
It's a direct port of the PS3 collection Legacy edition with literally every Metal Gear game (minus V and Rising) is still about $20 on PS3 and runs excellently. $50 for a 1:1 port of a past gen compilation is such a scummy Konami thing. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XBoner 08/21/23 10:07:48 AM #8: |
Irony posted...
It's a direct port of the PS3 collectionIs this true? It looks no better? --- "I used to be a people person, then people ruined it" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 08/21/23 10:09:45 AM #9: |
Hopefully mods will save the PC version. I'm not playing a game at 720p in the year of our lord 2023. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kain_Highwind 08/21/23 10:12:44 AM #10: |
XBoner posted...
Is this true? It looks no better?its a direct port that, on the switch, runs worse --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/21/23 10:13:09 AM #11: |
XBoner posted...
Is this true? It looks no better?Current gen versions are 720p --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Plumeofdusk 08/21/23 10:14:13 AM #12: |
umm... 30 fps is more cinematic anyway right?? it's probably the best way to experience the games :v ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kain_Highwind 08/21/23 10:15:52 AM #13: |
Plumeofdusk posted...
umm... 30 fps is more cinematic anyway right?? it's probably the best way to experience the games :v2 on the PS2 was 60 fps --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 08/21/23 10:17:35 AM #14: |
Plumeofdusk posted...
umm... 30 fps is more cinematic anyway right?? it's probably the best way to experience the games :v Yeah, cinematic. Maybe they even went as low as 24 fps for that smooth movie vibe. No way I'm buying this on anywhere other than pc where the modders can fix some of Konami's mistakes. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 08/21/23 10:18:16 AM #15: |
Plumeofdusk posted...
umm... 30 fps is more cinematic anyway right?? it's probably the best way to experience the games :v Only MG1 is <30 because that was a literal PS1 game back in the late 90s lol. 2, Snake Eater, and even Peace Walker HD ran at 60fps on their respective platforms as well ad the original HD collections so idk wtf is going on here with switch. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XBoner 08/21/23 10:19:06 AM #16: |
Kain_Highwind posted...
its a direct port that, on the switch, runs worseIsn't the switch much more powerful than ps3? --- "I used to be a people person, then people ruined it" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 08/21/23 10:22:46 AM #17: |
Konami
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itachi15243 08/21/23 10:25:26 AM #18: |
XBoner posted...
Isn't the switch much more powerful than ps3? It's maybe 3 or 4 times more powerful However this is Konami, so they might have fucked up somewhere on the hardware or even just did it to save money. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 08/21/23 10:27:21 AM #19: |
Thats better framerate than the 3ds version of metal gear solid 3. >_>
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codey 08/21/23 10:28:46 AM #20: |
I thought Konami was getting out of gaming anyway and doing gacha shit or something now, are they basically just releasing old ports at this point?
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itachi15243 08/21/23 10:31:09 AM #21: |
codey posted...
I thought Konami was getting out of gaming anyway and doing gacha shit or something now, are they basically just releasing old ports at this point? They're getting back in with this, likely another collection afterwards with the rest of the games, and an mgs3 remake. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pikachuchupika 08/21/23 10:32:29 AM #22: |
Trelve posted... Hopefully mods will save the PC version. I'm not playing a game at 720p in the year of our lord 2023. There is no way they are shipping this with 720p on PC. Gamers will riot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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codey 08/21/23 10:39:47 AM #23: |
itachi15243 posted...
They're getting back in with this, likely another collection afterwards with the rest of the games, and an mgs3 remake. It's still just remasters and stuff right? I wouldn't be surprised if they just have a skeleton crew of bottom barrel guys porting these over since they're not developing anything new. --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 08/21/23 10:52:42 AM #24: |
codey posted...
It's still just remasters and stuff right? I wouldn't be surprised if they just have a skeleton crew of bottom barrel guys porting these over since they're not developing anything new. The Mgs3 remake is a full blown remake and everything. The collections are likely just going to be ports. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solo_Wing 08/21/23 12:04:46 PM #25: |
Lmao can't even run ps3 games at full speed what a garbo hardware
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Garioshi 08/21/23 2:59:50 PM #26: |
please pay full price for a game that runs worse than it did on hardware from 17 years ago
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Garioshi 08/21/23 3:04:43 PM #27: |
Garioshi posted...
please pay full price for a game that runs worse than it did on hardware from 17 years agohttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/8/AAYofGAAExX4.jpg oh my fucking god it's even worse the switch runs mgs2 worse than a console from 23 fucking years ago --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulJoe 08/21/23 3:06:52 PM #28: |
Konami is back!
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LaLeyenda 08/21/23 3:07:55 PM #29: |
codey posted...
I thought Konami was getting out of gaming anyway and doing gacha shit or something now, are they basically just releasing old ports at this point?They never left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Konami_games --- The one and only and still the best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad-Dogg 08/21/23 3:08:38 PM #30: |
*Starts sweating since I intended to get the PS5 version and I still remember some of the jank zone of the enders and especially silent hill went through*
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MuscleRobo 08/21/23 3:08:46 PM #31: |
It's also going to be "Localized for a modern audience." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 08/21/23 3:10:43 PM #32: |
this is not good
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invertedlegdrop 08/21/23 3:24:13 PM #34: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/1/AARMMSAAExYF.jpg
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boomgetchopped3 08/21/23 3:28:23 PM #35: |
Figured, my steamy deck has a bit of slowdown running mgs2 and mgs3 is only barely playable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 08/21/23 3:29:08 PM #36: |
invertedlegdrop posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/1/AARMMSAAExYF.jpgI really don't think asking a game to run as well as it did on a console from the year I was born is asking too much --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 08/21/23 3:35:09 PM #37: |
They flat out said that modern consoles/PC will be targeting the same specs -- so 720p and 30fps.
It's a straight-to-port HD collection for $60. Fucking yikes, man. I can't even imagine how bad 720p on my 1440p monitor would look, and the screen tearing at 30fps would be unbelievable. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 08/21/23 3:45:16 PM #38: |
A PS1 and two PS2 games apparently can't fit on a single Switch cart. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 08/21/23 3:45:25 PM #39: |
C-zom posted... They flat out said that modern consoles/PC will be targeting the same specs -- so 720p and 30fps. Wait I thought mgs2 was 60fps on ps2? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 08/21/23 3:50:01 PM #40: |
Garioshi posted...
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C-zom 08/21/23 3:51:44 PM #41: |
boomgetchopped3 posted...
Wait I thought mgs2 was 60fps on ps2? The HD Collection wasn't. Since Konami is confirming this is the HD Collection ported 1:1, it won't be either. MGS2 on Ps2 was a technical marvel and the source code got lost. They retooled it for the HDC, but capped it at 30fps because their port wasn't great. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mad-Dogg 08/21/23 3:59:22 PM #42: |
C-zom posted...
The HD Collection wasn't. Since Konami is confirming this is the HD Collection ported 1:1, it won't be either.The HD collection most definitely was 60fps on both the PS3 and the xbox 360. Now the vita version? THAT was 30fps. (The frame rate mind you was unstable like a mofo, but they both were fairly consistent 60fps in MGS2, and a bit shaky for MGS3). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poEqykRrxDk --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C-zom 08/21/23 4:02:53 PM #43: |
Mad-Dogg posted...
The HD collection most definitely was 60fps on both the PS3 and the xbox 360. Now the vita version? THAT was 30fps. (The frame rate mind you was unstable like a mofo, but they both were fairly consistent 60fps in MGS2, and a bit shaky for MGS3). Well, I'm a misinformed idiot then. My bad. I guess you can read the OP in two ways then; either the Switch is getting the handheld/vita port (30fps) and the others will be the "normal" 60fps ports, OR we're all getting the 720p/30fps handheld port. Their wording is probably intentionally vague. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 08/21/23 4:04:29 PM #44: |
C-zom posted...
The HD Collection wasn't. Since Konami is confirming this is the HD Collection ported 1:1, it won't be either.MGS2 HD definitely runs at 60 on the HD collection, though. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 08/22/23 2:46:23 AM #45: |
Garioshi posted... MGS2 HD definitely runs at 60 on the HD collection, though.It does. It even runs at 60 (for the indoor scenes anyway) on the PS Vita. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 08/22/23 3:11:38 AM #46: |
Plumeofdusk posted...
umm... 30 fps is more cinematic anyway right?? David Cage, is that you? --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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