Current Events > Do you believe in da ''things happen for a reason'' shit people like to spew?

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Vegy
08/17/23 5:38:51 PM
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Sounds BS to me

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Itachi157
08/17/23 5:41:03 PM
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No, I mean obviously theres no magic force making things go right. However sometimes it can be comforting to think of things in this way. And often, something not working out or not going the way you want can open the door to something even better down the road.
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MarcoRubio
08/17/23 5:41:10 PM
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Every action has a positive and negative reaction, so at this point if something happens, it's due to the causation of a previous action.

So technically, there is a reason for everything

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haloiscoolisbak
08/17/23 5:41:47 PM
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I get a little triggered because my toxic ex used to love this quote and seemingly thought it was quite deep

I thought it was kind of dumb at the time and not much has changed

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ai123
08/17/23 5:42:31 PM
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Everything does happen for a reason.

But that's just cause and effect, not mystical cosmic long term planning.

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haloiscoolisbak
08/17/23 5:43:29 PM
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MarcoRubio posted...
Every action has a positive and negative reaction, so at this point if something happens, it's due to the causation of a previous action.

So technically, there is a reason for everything

It's usually used in more of a "fate is a real thing" context I think

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DarkBuster22904
08/17/23 5:54:29 PM
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It's one of the most worthless, if not outright harmful sentiments to share with somebody.

90% of the time it's used to diminish people's struggles. Oftentimes when people say it to themselves, it helps them handwave real, tangible takeaways from a situation, and hampers learning/growing. And when people say it to somebody else, it's usually a trite attempt at comfort when they can't come up with anything better to say; and more often than not, it's not what somebody absolutely going through it wants/needs to hear.

To say nothing of it's more gross applications, and the utter nonsense it becomes when taken to its logical conclusion. Got raped? "Everything happens for a reason." Children starving to death? "Everything happens for a reason." Extreme examples, sure, but not unfounded ones; people trot the phrase out in circumstances like those all the time. And it shows exactly what I'm saying: worthless, up to harmful.

If someone gets comfort from it, good on them; I certainly won't take that away from them. But on average, I feel like the sentiment is a net negative.

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NoxObscuras
08/17/23 6:01:48 PM
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Not in the sense of there being some force controlling everything. But I do believe that when one door closes, another one opens. So all of my successes and failures up to now got me to where I am.

For example, I've made some great friends at my current job, that I just wouldn't have met had I gone down a different career path. I wouldn't be with my girlfriend now, had I not started dating when I did, it had I not been rejected by the other women I bet before her. Stuff like that, going all the way back to my childhood.

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Turbam
08/17/23 6:02:32 PM
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It's all just random events

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Shamino
08/17/23 6:03:54 PM
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ai123 posted...
Everything does happen for a reason.

But that's just cause and effect, not mystical cosmic long term planning.
^This. People who say "things happen for a reason" are trying to rationalize something that they don't understand or don't want to face.

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TheLiarParadox
08/17/23 6:20:29 PM
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No, but I used to be the type where if something bad happened, I absolutely stewed in misery about it and never learned or grew in any way. My mind was fixated on every negative thing possible and all of my coping mechanisms were negative and harmful.

While I haven't gone full "everything happens for a reason," I've had to learn to identify and appreciate silver linings and the fruits of perseverance in the face of hardship because it's the only way I could get through things.

And I think that's something a lot of people out there haven't learned in any specific manner even though they've seen, done, and had done to them some wild shit. They simply survived and were let with this nebulous idea of getting through or overcoming things and the best they can do to understand and communicate it is this vague platitude that doesn't really do anything.

There are limitations to it, boundaries about how and most importantly when to say it that the kind of person who typically uses it also doesn't understand, but I get the sentiment and it doesn't bother me as much anymore. Still don't like it all that much and wish people were more emotionally mature and emotionally intelligent to not need to see things that way because it ultimately is not that great a way to look at the world.


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Lordgold666
08/17/23 8:46:49 PM
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For every door that closes, another opens

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bfslick50
08/17/23 8:48:44 PM
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Never say "it happened for a reason" to a person that's mourning. That's the type of thing people say to make themselves feel better but it's not comforting for a grieving person to hear.

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Glob
08/17/23 8:59:43 PM
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Itachi157 posted...
No, I mean obviously theres no magic force making things go right. However sometimes it can be comforting to think of things in this way. And often, something not working out or not going the way you want can open the door to something even better down the road.

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Vegy
08/19/23 7:40:34 AM
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I'm glad ce agrees

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FurryPhilosifer
08/19/23 7:43:04 AM
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Fate can't be real unless I'm the main character of the universe. Think of all the people who spend their lives unhappy before drinking themselves to death shouting at football games alone on their TV at the age of 59. How can that be fate for them?

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punkfanalways
08/19/23 7:43:14 AM
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It works if you view it in the prism of using everything that happens to you as a caralyst to grow as a person.
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Notti
08/22/23 7:53:49 AM
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Vegy posted...
Do you believe in da ''things happen for a reason'' shit people like to spew?


Not for a moment.

Coincidences will always just be councidences.


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GranTurismo
08/22/23 8:01:30 AM
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Do any of you here believe in karma? do you believe that karma is very similar to what this topic is about?
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orangefire25
08/22/23 8:25:28 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Not in the sense of there being some force controlling everything. But I do believe that when one door closes, another one opens. So all of my successes and failures up to now got me to where I am.

For example, I've made some great friends at my current job, that I just wouldn't have met had I gone down a different career path. I wouldn't be with my girlfriend now, had I not started dating when I did, it had I not been rejected by the other women I bet before her. Stuff like that, going all the way back to my childhood.
This. But yeah, I don't really believe in divine fate.

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Notti
08/25/23 7:55:01 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
Do any of you here believe in karma? do you believe that karma is very similar to what this topic is about?

I think it is is related, in the form of hidden divine purposes and controls.

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Jiek_Fafn
08/25/23 8:02:18 AM
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ai123 posted...
Everything does happen for a reason.

But that's just cause and effect, not mystical cosmic long term planning.
This

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Lobinde
08/25/23 8:10:33 AM
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I get the sentiment behind it, but usually it's said to either justify unjust suffering experienced by other people or to big themselves up if they get lucky.

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