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Really liking this game this far, got thr full party and Im in the 4th realm just killed the dino boss.

My favourite character to play atm is Dohalim love the combos and I can melee, do spells and support.

Btw I did get Veperia and Berseria at sale for $10 each, prob gonna do Vesperis after this then Berseria.

It's a masterpiece that filtered midwits.

stage4saiyan posted...

It's a masterpiece that filtered midwits.

How so?

I enjoyed playing Kisara for some reason, helps she doesn't actually get played properly by bots I suppose.

She also trivializes the secret bosses imo.

I really missed the multiplayer aspect of Tales games however.

FF_Redux posted...

How so?

"the bosses have too much health!" is the main complaint. It shows they have no grasp on the battle mechanics and aren't experimenting with Artes combos. Same thing is currently happening on the FF16 board, people complaining Clive's kit is too shallow. If you play it right you barely have enough time to pop a potion before going into another ability chain.

TetsuoS2 posted...

I enjoyed playing Kisara for some reason, helps she doesn't actually get played properly by bots I suppose.

She also trivializes the secret bosses imo.

I really missed the multiplayer aspect of Tales games however.

Im gonna try her but more, have gotten some Artes now that combo well so she isnt as slow.

She keeps spamming Mystic Artes tho as a bot.

stage4saiyan posted...

"the bosses have too much health!" is the main complaint. It shows they have no grasp on the battle mechanics and aren't experimenting with Artes combos. Same thing is currently happening on the FF16 board, people complaining Clive's kit is too shallow. If you play it right you barely have enough time to pop a potion before going into another ability chain.

I play on hard and liking the challenge this far, few bosses and those big unique mobs have been tough but just gotta equip right stuff and artes and do thr combat properly.

FF_Redux posted...

I play on hard and liking the challenge this far, few bosses and those big unique mobs have been tough but just gotta equip right stuff and artes and do thr combat properly.

You're playing it smartly then, enjoy it. Dohalim and Kisara have the best support skits in the game, he's seriously one of my favorite JRPG characters in a long time.

stage4saiyan posted...

You're playing it smartly then, enjoy it. Dohalim and Kisara have the best support skits in the game, he's seriously one of my favorite JRPG characters in a long time.

Yeah Im liking that I have to think what artes to use etc, like its not good to have just strong artes, some have long animations making you exposed for attacks or some kinda stop a combo. Then there are weaknesses and what boost attacks to use (also using it to refresh few AG to keep combos going). Its so fun.

stage4saiyan posted...

"the bosses have too much health!" is the main complaint. It shows they have no grasp on the battle mechanics and aren't experimenting with Artes combos. Same thing is currently happening on the FF16 board, people complaining Clive's kit is too shallow. If you play it right you barely have enough time to pop a potion before going into another ability chain.

So what am I supposed to do for Ganabelt when he uses his ultimate technique on unknown?

badjay posted...

So what am I supposed to do for Ganabelt when he uses his ultimate technique on unknown?

Is this a complaint on the whole game where a boss in the hardest optional difficulty is really hard?

Rinwell is best girl in combat and out of combat. Embrace the magic goodness.

darkmaian23 posted...

Rinwell is best girl in combat and out of combat. Embrace the magic goodness.

Been keeping her (and Law) out for awhile but there has been lots of wind enemies lately and the others have Esrth artes

Also atm at s major boss where I need to use her Boost Attack so its safer she is out.

FF_Redux posted...

Is this a complaint on the whole game where a boss in the hardest optional difficulty is really hard?

I mean I realized the game wasn't really tuned to the difficulty. The expectation is that you're supposed to break him to stop the arte. I still played on unknown for most of the game but down one notch for the bosses because they truly became bullet sponges on unknown. It legitimately felt like it was meant for a NG+ rather than a difficulty you could handle in the first play through. But...all the nonboss enemies were manageable in unknown so there's this weird discrepancy. I get that the bosses/Lords are supposed to be exceptional and to the point seemingly impossible because of odds and it makes sense. But damn on unknown they really do shove it in your face. Then you switch it to hard or whatever the difficulty is from unknown and fight is a joke. It's confusing as fuck.

Ganabelt is where I realized all of this though.

Anyway enjoy the game, honestly after the third or fourth lord is when the game turns into trash for me. There's some good character development, but a lot of it gets repeated.

And as an unknown player the ONLY move to ever use is reigning slash, outside of that you never get ANY time to even bother comboing enemies because they never stagger. So yeah another knock on the harder difficulties, just becomes a game of reigning slash move out of the way and then reigning slash again until they die.

Oh it was your first playthrough even? With the hardest difficulty.

Playing it as well, at the part where Shionne leaves the party until you rescue her. Was kinda worried Alphen would be useless in battle without his blazing sword attacks then I realized hopping in the air and spamming Void Flash is actually ridiculous since I have an elemental attack accessory with bonus wind damage on him, didn't realize how good that arte was before.

badjay posted...

So what am I supposed to do for Ganabelt when he uses his ultimate technique on unknown?

More like "why does reigning slash do more damage than my combos on bosses?"

People say this complaint for the bosses and then eventually the randoms start having iron stance everywhere too. The game plummets in quality.

The problem in FFXVI isn't that Clive's kit is too shallow, it's that the game doesn't do enough to encourage the player to experiment with it. Needs to be more difficult in some way, either with more enemy variety or with loadouts.

Oi @Number090684

Ok I just beat Volhram and got the Title Screen with an animated cutscene, how far sm I in the game?

FF_Redux posted...

Ok I just beat Volhram and got the Title Screen with an animated cutscene, how far sm I in the game?

I'd probably about 2/3rds of the way through the main story IIRC. Maybe a little more.

There's even more than that though if you include the optional content

stage4saiyan posted...

It's a masterpiece that filtered midwits.

A Xenogears fan, I see!

Good game ruined by the last like 10%

Srk700 posted...

I'd probably about 2/3rds of the way through the main story IIRC. Maybe a little more.

There's even more than that though if you include the optional content

Ah nice, maybe Im slow but Im 50 hours in.

FF_Redux posted...

Oh it was your first playthrough even? With the hardest difficulty.

Yes, I was also playing it modded to enable co op play like a GOOD TALES OF GAME SHOULD HAVE. The mod doesn't make it harder, just makes it so you have another capable comboing person/secondary reigning slasher playing the game.

Honestly the modded coop is what salvages the game for me to continue playing even after it becomes trash.

But it's the repetition in the narrative that kills the game. You have skits that repeat plot points and the narrative that repeats things over and over that you have parts like this where my brother and me are just making fun of skits instead of listening to them because it's the same god damn thing.

Some spoilers about location and maybe some plot stuff after the skit ends when we talk to the NPC at the end. And I guess some outfit spoilers too in this link.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1443635075

FF_Redux posted...

Ok I just beat Volhram and got the Title Screen with an animated cutscene, how far sm I in the game?

That's about 2/3s to 3/4s. There's still a good chunk of game after that. Since we did modded coop, that boss' AI was so bad that I just ran around as Alphen while they chased me down trying to do one basic sword swing as my brother and the AI just slapped the shit out of him. It was surprisingly the easiest fight we had.

Godammit, I looked at the DLC stuff and saw a battle music pack, really want that but its pricy man.

It's very different from the last three Tales I've played on the PS3 (Graces f, Xillia, and Symphonia) but I enjoyed it. I don't trophy-hunt but while trying to get and complete everything in the game, I ended up getting the platinum.

Beating one of the secret bosses, Chronos, took me somewhere between 15-20 minutes. Then I had a rematch with him after acquiring all the Devil Arms. Took me by surprise by how much Alphen shaves off Chronos' HP, allowing me to defeat him in less than 5 minutes.

badjay posted...

Since we did modded coop, that boss' AI was so bad that I just ran around as Alphen while they chased me down trying to do one basic sword swing as my brother and the AI just slapped the shit out of him. It was surprisingly the easiest fight we had.

I remember from playing it non-modded that he just targets whichever character you're in control of while ignoring everyone else. I remember cheesing him a bit by just running away with the gun girl (forgot her name. Was it Shionne?), occasionally taking pot shots at him while everyone else whittled him down.

Srk700 posted...

I remember from playing it non-modded that he just targets whichever character you're I'm control of while ignoring everyone else. I remember cheesing him a bit by just running away with the gun girl (forgot her name. Was it Shionne?), occasionally taking pot shots at him while everyone else whittled him down.

Ahh damn that AI is garbage.

It's a shame because they are a cool boss and have really cool attacks.

I do believe there's a solo fight with him later on too and that was a great fight.

Is this game any good? I know Tales games can be devivisive, my favorite is absolutely Berseria but other than Phantasia maybe, I feel like I can just pass on most of them sadly. A youtube user actually put this into his top ten modern rpgs list.

Kamil posted...

Is this game any good? I know Tales games can be devivisive, my favorite is absolutely Berseria but other than Phantasia maybe, I feel like I can just pass on most of them sadly. A youtube user actually put this into his top ten modern rpgs list.

It's preety good, but the story *really* falls apart toward the end.

badjay posted...

But it's the repetition in the narrative that kills the game. You have skits that repeat plot points and the narrative that repeats things over and over that you have parts like this where my brother and me are just making fun of skits instead of listening to them because it's the same god damn thing.

I havent really noticed this until now.

Got thr the spacesvip and Shionne finally told her secret, but thst went on and on same thing for 30 mins crying about how she now found froends and dont want to die, I dunno why they had to repeat the same thing like 4 times during thr same stuff.

FF_Redux posted...

I havent really noticed this until now.

Got thr the spacesvip and Shionne finally told her secret, but thst went on and on same thing for 30 mins crying about how she now found froends and dont want to die, I dunno why they had to repeat the same thing like 4 times during thr same stuff.

That's about when we noticed it too and my brother snapped lol.

stage4saiyan posted...

"the bosses have too much health!" is the main complaint. It shows they have no grasp on the battle mechanics and aren't experimenting with Artes combos. Same thing is currently happening on the FF16 board, people complaining Clive's kit is too shallow. If you play it right you barely have enough time to pop a potion before going into another ability chain.

The bosses can't be staggered for combos so the best option is to just spam single hitting artes that are fast and do a lot of damage. What's the point of doing combos on a boss if they can't be combo'd when you can just spam Reigning Slash. The battle system is fun as hell on normal enemies but the boss fights suck. So the high HP on them is pointless and boring.

Xillia 2 and Graces f did it right where if you knew how to play you could kill a boss in one combo but they moved away from that.