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08/12/23 12:02:20 PM
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Noumas
08/12/23 2:27:39 PM
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With Jonathan majors and Idris Elba.

I came across the perfect phrase to describe all these netflix original movies like this and gray man and power of dog and enola holmes with a star studded cast: aggressively mediocre.

If it weren't for the cast these movies would barely qualify as b-movies. And when I say cast I'm not talking about Jonathan majors because this guy is just super annoying and I dont get his sudden rise to fame, its everyone else like zazie beats, lakeith stanfield, even Idris Elba.

I feel like they wanted to bring back cowboy movies and were like no one's ever really done black cowboy story, lets do that! But the genre already reached its peak in the 90s, with tombstone being the best played straight cowboy movie, and unforgiven being the best deconstruction cowboy movie.
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MICHALECOLE
08/12/23 2:29:55 PM
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Power of the dog had more than 10 academy award nominations
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Noumas
08/12/23 2:34:26 PM
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So the plot is basically an outlaw (played by Idris Elba) kills Jonathan majors parents and leaves him alive but puts a scar on his forehead, a scar of those Jesus cross things. He grows up to be an outlaw himself, only he's an outlaw who steals from other outlaws rather than from banks themselves. And he eventually finds where Idris Elba is and goes there to take his revenge.

The plot twist is Idris Elba was his brother the whole time and thats why he didn't kill him! Wow much amazing, very surprise. Powerful and exciting
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BlueAnnihilator
08/12/23 2:42:36 PM
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Noumas posted...
So the plot is basically an outlaw (played by Idris Elba) kills Jonathan majors parents and leaves him alive but puts a scar on his forehead, a scar of those Jesus cross things. He grows up to be an outlaw himself, only he's an outlaw who steals from other outlaws rather than from banks themselves. And he eventually finds where Idris Elba is and goes there to take his revenge.

The plot twist is Idris Elba was his brother the whole time and thats why he didn't kill him! Wow much amazing, very surprise. Powerful and exciting
Lol that plot is just some Naruto crap

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alphagamble
08/12/23 2:44:00 PM
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same

Thought it was pretty good

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HashtagSEP
08/12/23 2:45:03 PM
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Yeah, I thought it was pretty decent.

So did most people, based on audience scores.

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LincolnDuncan
08/12/23 2:45:37 PM
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Zazie Beats is so fine

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Noumas
08/13/23 9:21:43 AM
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I didnt care about any of the characters, they weren't interesting nor compelling at all. Lakeith Stanfield (who was previously great in judas and the black messiah) plays a dishonorable outlaw and it doesn't make him seem like a badass or interesting to watch at all yet the movie seems to make us think he is.

And they're trying to portray Idris Elba as a badass but in a fistfight with Deon Cole he literally resorts to taking out his pistol and pistol whipping him instead of fighting man to man fist to fist. That's not badass thats wormtail/tongue levels of deceitfulness. Makes you wonder why nobody bothers shooting him when this is going down. Why bother with the illusion of fisticuffs and wasting the audience's time? It makes no sense both movie wise and character wise.
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Solid_Snake07
08/13/23 9:37:25 AM
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I liked it

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InTheEyesOfFire
08/13/23 9:40:38 AM
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Noumas
08/16/23 1:04:42 AM
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The thing is they don't make it seem comedic or that subversive, its like between the Indiana Jones gun/sword scene and playing it straight and it just doesn't work. If you're gonna do a bit commit to the bit. Or rather, don't do it at all.
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FortuneCookie
08/16/23 1:09:43 AM
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Noumas posted...
I feel like they wanted to bring back cowboy movies and were like no one's ever really done black cowboy story, lets do that! But the genre already reached its peak in the 90s, with tombstone being the best played straight cowboy movie, and unforgiven being the best deconstruction cowboy movie.

Posse, Take a Hard Ride, and 100 Rifles (the first movie to have a sex scene between a Black man and a White woman) come to mind.

Black Cowboys are definitely underrepresented in cinema though; especially since many of the legendary figures of the wild west were Black and the term itself originated with Black ranch hands.

If you like 90s westerns, definitely give Posse a chance. It's not as good as the two that you mentioned, but it is a fun film.
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