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Is it Atma Weapon or Ultima Weapon?

how many ppl you know named ruth or edith homie
theres a reason those names died out (it was bc they suck btw)

aerith as its factually her name calling her aeris is just willful ignorance

is it ignorance if i know and recognize what the real name is, but still call her aeris because i think it's better? stubborn, absolutely. ignorant? idk

I know some Ruth, and i live in a country that western names are uncommon.

Do the people that dont like the -th because it doesnt sound nice just refuse to acknowledge women named Ruth and Edith?

i mean isnt it pretty typical that western trends pick up in eastern countries years, if not decades after theyve fallen out of fashion in the west?

I don't even understand what you're trying to prove, ArthGoethia.
If that logic you said is true, it should be okay too for a Japanese game developer to use an old sounding name in their fantasy games?

not if it makes em sound like daffy fuckin duck rythmilth

And that's your problem.
Normal people doesn't simply associate those name with lisps.

Names like Judith, Keith, Smith, etc are still normally recognised.

you cant just throw out any instance where the th consonant blend exists and hold it to the same standard if you wanna talk linguistic rules

i cant think of any name that contains "rith" and very few english language words in general, except odd ones like arithmetic

aerith just is not a natural sounding name/word

Yes.
Specifically a willful ignorance.

All names are made up.

All names are made up.
Even real names are weirder than Aerith, like Llewellyn.

Like pronouncing GIF with a hard G while knowing full well the one who named it intended it to have a soft G.

no they arent
they typically have some basis either through root words or similar concepts and they typically follow the generally understood phonetic guidelines of their language of origin

and why would a name being made up excuse it from sounding like shit
lets just go around naming chars after fuckin dwemer ruins or r'lyehian nonsense why dont we

Funny you said that, because FFVII creator DID say that the name Aerith is originated from the word Earth. Now, what is your excuse for Aeris?

Yes.
Specifically a willful ignorance.

Funny you said that, because FFVII creator DID say that the name Aerith is originated from the word Earth. Now, what is your excuse for Aeris?

I'm... surprised?
I never expected a goalpost moving in a topic like this.

the phonetic transliteration of english words in to japanese does not function the same way as it does in english as the japanese language is formed using a very rigid syllabic based structure that does not allow for certain nuances in spelling and sound that english does, leading to their interpretation of english words sounding very different from how an english speaker would read them?

ie: hamburger pronounced in japanese contains no syllable with an "R" sound, and such sound is approximated by extending the length of time the "AH" sound is pronounced

Bruh you literally fell back on the 'all words are made up' defense. You already threw the goalposts in the river.

Yet in this case the correct direction would be to make it sound more like "Earth" than it would be to go for the "s" ending.

the th consonant blend does not exist in japanese and is typically approximated using "su" when transliterating english and is formed no differently than a word ending in s
aeris and aerith would be spelled the same in japanese (and sounds like aeris)

How is it moving goalpost when my reply is directly addressing the points?
He made up some arbitrary rules, and try to force a certain linguistic rules on something that needs no such rule.
And then when presented the evidence that it was indeed following a rule, he tried another different rule.

Irrelevant. They want a Japanese-style pun using English. Thus that is the direction to take the name.

and it sounds like shit and doesnt even read as said pun to an english ear/eye

so aeris

Because the 'all words are made up' defense in this context is an argumentative nadir; it's akin to someone saying 'because God made it so' in a religious versus scientific debate. The goalposts cannot be 'moved' when you've already destroyed any value of making a goal in the first place.

Irrelevant. It's just like getting restaurants called "Happy Belly" and whatnot: the literal language isn't the only difference, the cultural ones do as well. Japan makes a ton of puns that sound dumb to English speakers, that is all.

i dont understand what point youre trying to make other than proving mine
aerith sounds stupid as fuck

Then make a new name with the "Earth" sound.

you mean ?
sure
aeris

Aeris is her factually correct name from FFVII.

Its Aerith, and the protagonist of FFX is pronounced Tee-dus while Im at it, as thats how Japanese phonetics work.

Ackhtyually, it's Tee-Duh.

Did i just opening a new can of worms here?

Lacks the pun.

Do another one.

sure if we wanna do 1:1 localization attempts wherein a foreign language is used to provide an exotic word that signifies a certain concept/theme

terra