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refmon
08/08/23 5:10:36 PM
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https://twitter.com/lashiec/status/1688707220018475008?s=20


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Crimson_Corsair
08/08/23 5:16:20 PM
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tldr?

I fucking love TFS and would be saddened to find out any of w/e this is is true. First time I've ever heard anything like this about them.

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LordFarquad1312
08/08/23 5:16:59 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The previous VA for Byleth*

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MabinogiFan
08/08/23 5:17:19 PM
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It never ends.
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Slayer_22
08/08/23 5:17:42 PM
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The ORIGINAL VA, you mean. His current VA in everything at the moment is Zack Aguilar.

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Pogo_Marimo
08/08/23 5:18:15 PM
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I'm trying to read through this documentation and it is making very little sense to me so far. It's very poorly organized and fairly confusing for someone who has no idea what the actual allegations are.

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chaos_knight
08/08/23 5:19:11 PM
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I don't care much any more. Just assume everyone in Youtube and media in general is a piece of shit. Won't stop me from liking TFS and Martin's works. Fuck it.

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Slayer_22
08/08/23 5:19:19 PM
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Iirc Kuriboh voiced Frieza.

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AceMos
08/08/23 5:19:41 PM
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what is it lately with all of these youtubers being revealed to be abusive

was there a sale on destroying your career

or is it one of those tiktok fads that nevermake any sense to me

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chaos_knight
08/08/23 5:22:02 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
I dont want this to be true. Ive met Nick, Scott and Martin before. Theyre such nice guys and its hard to believe theyd abuse anyone.

If true, at this point, it is far more difficult to find a needle in a haystack than an innocent media personality. So I've stopped giving a fuck about character flaws.

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harley2280
08/08/23 5:22:24 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
I'm trying to read through this documentation and it is making very little sense to me so far. It's very poorly organized and fairly confusing for someone who has no idea what the actual allegations are.
Way too many akas.

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YoBlazer
08/08/23 5:29:37 PM
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"If you don't believe me, that's not something I'm going to concern myself with. My track record when I talk about these things is 100% and I'm right about this too."

From the first page of that document. I'm one page in and I have no idea if the writer is someone who was personally victimized by these alleged abusers or someone who investigates these things.

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VeggetaX
08/08/23 5:29:41 PM
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Yes someone please tldr it for me.

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Gobstoppers12
08/08/23 5:31:26 PM
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Seems like it's more about someone (or someones) being a piece of shit, and the whole thing being "the people in charge didn't do enough to stop them" rather than any actual abuse by the big names.

But I won't lie, it's like 14 pages long and I ain't reading this rambling for that long.

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Pogo_Marimo
08/08/23 5:34:42 PM
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YoBlazer posted...
"If you don't believe me, that's not something I'm going to concern myself with. My track record when I talk about these things is 100% and I'm right about this too."

From the first page of that document. I'm one page in and I have no idea if the writer is someone who was personally victimized by these alleged abusers or someone who investigates these things.
I've stopped trying to parse it to be frank. It was after clicking on links that linked to links that linked to links that I realized there's this entire dense, inscrutable web of allegations and victims that you need to learn about in order to make any sense of that document. I'm sure something happened, but when it comes to the who's and what's and context I have no fucking idea.

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Akagami_Shanks
08/08/23 5:35:01 PM
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i skimmed it and still have no idea what was happening, didn't even know these people got accused a first time lmao

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Hayame_Zero
08/08/23 5:35:01 PM
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This one sucks. Martin's a really good dude.


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Nemu
08/08/23 5:46:39 PM
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What was the TL;DR with Mignogna at the end of the day? Was he actually an abuser or just weird? I remember it being a pretty vitriolic back and forth.
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AceMos
08/08/23 5:47:23 PM
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Nemu posted...
What was the TL;DR with Mignogna at the end of the day? Was he actually an abuser or just weird? I remember it being a pretty vitriolic back and forth.
more and more stuff has come out about what a creep he is

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Chillscream123
08/08/23 5:47:44 PM
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LK is based. I love his work. Though it was pretty weak how he added a disclaimer for the first 60 episodes to accommodate sensitive types.

I don't know about these accusations. Document was too long and disorganized.
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Gobstoppers12
08/08/23 5:48:32 PM
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Chillscream123 posted...
I don't know about these accusations. Document was too long and disorganized.
Yeah I'm still not really sure what the actual accusations are. It doesn't seem like there's a smoking gun of any kind.

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ELI__2__SLAYTON
08/08/23 5:50:21 PM
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i still cant tell who the fuck is actually being accused

who was the alleged's voice on DBZA?

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Sir_Specter
08/08/23 5:51:32 PM
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Nemu posted...
What was the TL;DR with Mignogna at the end of the day? Was he actually an abuser or just weird? I remember it being a pretty vitriolic back and forth.
He creeped on underage girls at cons and kissed them without consent.
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Necronmon
08/08/23 5:51:49 PM
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I don't care much any more. Just assume everyone in Youtube and media in general is a piece of s***. Won't stop me from liking TFS and Martin's works. f*** it.

At this point most pepole just assume everyone's a monster...pepole trust so little these days...its making finding new relationships rather difficult, ugh.

Anyway Little Kurbio is also the freaking head of Yu Gi Oh Abridged so this is double depressing if this is true.

This is what happened to shatter Nostalgic Critic's group a few years ago to, and this is just the " Amature" groups, let alone the ones with the real power...its getting hard to not just assume anyone with power will abuse it to have there way with as much as they can get away with.
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Funkydog
08/08/23 5:52:40 PM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
tldr?

I fucking love TFS and would be saddened to find out any of w/e this is is true. First time I've ever heard anything like this about them.
Everyone in TFS helped cover up sexual abuse, it appeard.

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Jiek_Fafn
08/08/23 5:53:01 PM
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I'm gonna need someone to make sense of this manifesto for me before I hop onboard. As of right now I'm not understanding anything that's trying to be said.

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legendarylemur
08/08/23 5:59:31 PM
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It's hard to read but I think I sorta get the gist.

There are publicly already outed figures accused of underaged sex and abuse. Martin has a public history of defending these figures and admonishing people speaking out against them.

LK's also going through some cancer in his family? Not sure of the details but on top of his already poor mental and physical health, it's unlikely he will ever address this document

My take is this: I think because LK's always had poor mental health, he's overly attached to people who were good to him during this period. He's several times cried when he had to part with people in his circle, so yeah, I think the reason for him defending specific people is as simple as that.

I'm not sure if it's even worth cancelling somebody over this. It's not anything LK's done personally. It's all about how he alienated some people in favor of confirmed pedophile and abusers.

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NatsuSama
08/08/23 6:01:11 PM
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AceMos posted...
what is it lately with all of these youtubers being revealed to be abusive
Don't care one way or another if the accusation are actually true bit I think it needs to be pointed out that we have to be careful just believing accusations.

Because we have definitely reached a sensitive age more than ever that just shooting an accusation that isn't even substantiated (all it needs it partial truths to it), and ones entire reputation is tarnished. Whether the exact accusations are even true

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Chillscream123
08/08/23 6:01:12 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
To be fair to Martin and TFS, they did sometimes use insensitive words like the r word, the 3 letter f word and a couple others.

They regret it and it wasnt needed.

Maybe they had a few questionable jokes from time-to-time but I think a disclaimer for every single episode is lazy and unnecessary. He can provide a disclaimer on an "as-needed" basis but an umbrella condemnation of all of his earlier work is just mega cringe.
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Hayame_Zero
08/08/23 6:05:38 PM
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Not the best day for Martin/LK to find out his cat is dying...

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Nemu
08/08/23 6:12:38 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
It's hard to read but I think I sorta get the gist.

There are publicly already outed figures accused of underaged sex and abuse. Martin has a public history of defending these figures and admonishing people speaking out against them.

LK's also going through some cancer in his family? Not sure of the details but on top of his already poor mental and physical health, it's unlikely he will ever address this document

My take is this: I think because LK's always had poor mental health, he's overly attached to people who were good to him during this period. He's several times cried when he had to part with people in his circle, so yeah, I think the reason for him defending specific people is as simple as that.

I'm not sure if it's even worth cancelling somebody over this. It's not anything LK's done personally. It's all about how he alienated some people in favor of confirmed pedophile and abusers.
Sounds like it might be mostly a nothingburger, if that's the correct reading of the situation. Not that you can't say someone was wrong for defending a piece of shit, but you also have to take into account the length of the friendship and strength of the initial accusations. Look at how hard some people go to bat for complete stranger celebrities and actually imagine being someone who considered them a friend.
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Maze_
08/08/23 6:13:26 PM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
love TFS and would be saddened to find out any of w/e this is is true. First time I've ever heard anything like this about them.


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Akagami_Shanks
08/08/23 6:25:39 PM
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i guess from what i gather, person was abused by the first two people or was in the chat when they were saying stuff, TFS and LK basically stood by and did nothing to protect their own image or w/e, so they're thrown in here.

That's what I gather so far. i could be wrong

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Necronmon
08/08/23 6:28:27 PM
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This really is Deja Vu over what happened with Nostalgic Critic, AKA Doug and Rob Walker covering up abuse in there own group all over again, sigh.
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legendarylemur
08/08/23 6:31:48 PM
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What I gather is that the person was right about Vic Mignogna and one of the first person to break the news. They're addicted to that feel and has been releasing some inside info on involved people more than once. This puts into question how much they actually care about the abuse itself or just like the attention. But I understand what LK did was bad but it's difficult to call it "abuse" more like dispute. Disputes between people is something that can just happen out of disagreement.

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chaos_knight
08/08/23 6:32:50 PM
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I hope LK and TFS don't get cancelled over this. Fuck cancel culture.

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Rharyx211
08/08/23 6:35:35 PM
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I have a hard time believing LittleKuriboh did anything super fucked up, but...I'm also not going to read that document TC posted, so I might be part of the problem here. lol

Based on how LittleKuriboh acts, I can see him being peer pressured or strongarmed into doing something not super reputable when he was younger, but he doesn't really come off as a purposefully fucked up guy to me.

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chaos_knight
08/08/23 6:40:34 PM
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Or more realistically, over 90% of people are pieces of shit. Might as well never watch media at all ever again at this point.

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mybbqrules
08/08/23 6:42:53 PM
#47:


AceMos posted...
what is it lately with all of these youtubers being revealed to be abusive

was there a sale on destroying your career

or is it one of those tiktok fads that nevermake any sense to me
Can you imagine the ripples on youtube if it ever comes out that Markiplier or Jacksepticeye has done shady shit?

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MorbidEngel
08/08/23 6:46:18 PM
#48:


I mean, I'm going to wait and see if anything comes out of it, but after what happened when a few people tried to cancel Vinny of Vinesauce to "get back at him" basically with extremely shaky "proof" in 2021, I hate to say it but I also have a bit of a hard time taking things like this at face value without more than one person's accusations.

I realize what I said sounds rather oof, but that whole situation left me jaded on this sort of stuff.

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Rharyx211
08/08/23 6:48:03 PM
#49:


Nemu posted...
What was the TL;DR with Mignogna at the end of the day? Was he actually an abuser or just weird? I remember it being a pretty vitriolic back and forth.
I think he tried to sue Funimation and some other actors for defamation but neither side had enough evidence so the whole case was thrown out. Since then, I don't think Vic's gotten any voice over work because he made himself a liability by trying to sue a former employer -- and because people he worked for generally didn't like him, or found him creepy.

I don't think anything he did was ever "proven," but the dude's had rumors swirling around him since I was a teenager, so I doubt it's a nothingburger.

His fans can still be seen harassing other voice actors on Twitter every now and again.

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Eab1990
08/08/23 6:53:17 PM
#50:


MorbidEngel posted...
I mean, I'm going to wait and see if anything comes out of it, but after what happened when a few people tried to cancel Vinny of Vinesauce to "get back at him" basically with extremely shaky "proof" in 2021, I hate to say it but I also have a bit of a hard time taking things like this at face value without more than one person's accusations.

I realize what I said sounds rather oof, but that whole situation left me jaded on this sort of stuff.

That was a glorious reverse-cancellation though. The one guy who tried to cancel him (GeePM/GPM) ended up losing like 95% of their subs.
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