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mybbqrules 08/08/23 3:59:30 AM #51:	Heineken14 posted... People not understanding the Punisher. I like how the Punisher comics even had him scrape his decal off of a cop car's bumper and set them straight. --- Currently playing: Megaman Collection 1 and 2 <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:975322511] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>People not understanding the Punisher.</quote>I like how the Punisher comics even had him scrape his decal off of a cop car's bumper and set them straight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/08/23 4:12:23 AM #52:	How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:975322570] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 4:19:13 AM #53:	While not necessarily a matter of illiteracy, the perception of the first Dirty Harry movie. Its commonly criticised for being pro-fascism, as it portrays civil rights as being frustratingly restrictive (since we have a movie viewers perspective on what the killer is doing while the system doesnt) and contrives a reason to keep the killer on the loose. Meanwhile the creator of the character Dirty Harry intended him to be somewhat of a deconstruction of the cowboy cop character. Harry is meant to be, in the creators words, almost as bad as the killers he chases. Not a celebration of cowboy cops not a commentary on how police need more power. The second movie scaled back on that front where the bad guys were an actual death squad that Harry opposed as going way too far, but it still had this rather uncomfortable piece of dialogue early on- These days if a cop kills a hoodlum on the streets he might as well just dump the body some place! Because those young bastards at the DAs office will crucify him one way or another. They let a hood kill a cop, but let a cop kill a hood? Meanwhile decades later, does that sound right? That people get away with killing cops all the time while a cop gets crucified for the tiniest little thing? Though that might just be that characters intentionally misguided view, as later on one of the corrupt cops outright says its almost impossible to prosecute a cop. Maybe a little illiteracy on my part there? --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975322604] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>While not necessarily a matter of illiteracy, the perception of the first Dirty Harry movie. Its commonly criticised for being pro-fascism, as it portrays civil rights as being frustratingly restrictive (since we have a movie viewers perspective on what the killer is doing while the system doesnt) and contrives a reason to keep the killer on the loose.Meanwhile the creator of the character Dirty Harry intended him to be somewhat of a deconstruction of the cowboy cop character. Harry is meant to be, in the creators words, almost as bad as the killers he chases. Not a celebration of cowboy cops not a commentary on how police need more power.The second movie scaled back on that front where the bad guys were an actual death squad that Harry opposed as going way too far, but it still had this rather uncomfortable piece of dialogue early on-These days if a cop kills a hoodlum on the streets he might as well just dump the body some place! Because those young bastards at the DAs office will crucify him one way or another. They let a hood kill a cop, but let a cop kill a hood?Meanwhile decades later, does that sound right? That people get away with killing cops all the time while a cop gets crucified for the tiniest little thing?Though that might just be that characters intentionally misguided view, as later on one of the corrupt cops outright says its almost impossible to prosecute a cop.Maybe a little illiteracy on my part there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coinstarcad 08/08/23 4:23:28 AM #54:	People don't realize the movie Ready Player One is sarcastically making fun of what Zoomers and Millennials believe. <cite>coinstarcad posted [p:975322624] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>People don't realize the movie Ready Player One is sarcastically making fun of what Zoomers and Millennials believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/08/23 4:52:35 AM #55:	AceMos posted... thats what i was thinking of actually another good example is one of the worst comics of all time avengers number 200 no one involved knows how the fuck it came out how it did but its message is uh YIKES Whats the message? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:975322774] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>thats what i was thinking of actually another good example is one of the worst comics of all timeavengers number 200 no one involved knows how the fuck it came out how it did but its message is uh YIKES</quote>Whats the message? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 4:54:59 AM #56:	spikethedevil posted... Whats the message? uh ok uh spoilers for avengers number 200 ~~basically carol danvers is magically pregnant and in the course of a day gives birth and the child grows into an adult in a few hours~~ its revealed he had teleported her to his timeless realm and he used mind control to make her love him then impregnated her with himself so he could be born in the normal world but he is not evil dont worry but his plan fails and he cant stay ~~but the avengers send carol to be with him in the timeless realm yes they wrote carol out of the avengers to ship her off to be with a man who raped her~~ --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975322783] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite><quote>Whats the message?</quote>uh ok uh spoilers for avengers number 200 basically carol danvers is magically pregnant and in the course of a day gives birth and the child grows into an adult in a few hours its revealed he had teleported her to his timeless realm and he used mind control to make her love him then impregnated her with himself so he could be born in the normal world but he is not evil dont worry but his plan fails and he cant staybut the avengers send carol to be with him in the timeless realm yes they wrote carol out of the avengers to ship her off to be with a man who raped her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/08/23 4:55:21 AM #57:	Smashingpmkns posted... How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet Tyler Durden was mentioned in post 38 --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:975322788] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet</quote>Tyler Durden was mentioned in post 38 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/08/23 5:01:12 AM #58:	AceMos posted... uh ok uh spoilers for avengers number 200 ~~basically carol danvers is magically pregnant and in the course of a day gives birth and the child grows into an adult in a few hours~~ its revealed he had teleported her to his timeless realm and he used mind control to make her love him then impregnated her with himself so he could be born in the normal world but he is not evil dont worry but his plan fails and he cant stay ~~but the avengers send carol to be with him in the timeless realm yes they wrote carol out of the avengers to ship her off to be with a man who raped her~~ Oh god its that one, I think I purged it from my mind. Grease also has the terrible message of cant get the guy you like to go out with you? Then just change everything about yourself to appease him. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:975322821] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>uh ok uh spoilers for avengers number 200 basically carol danvers is magically pregnant and in the course of a day gives birth and the child grows into an adult in a few hours its revealed he had teleported her to his timeless realm and he used mind control to make her love him then impregnated her with himself so he could be born in the normal world but he is not evil dont worry but his plan fails and he cant staybut the avengers send carol to be with him in the timeless realm yes they wrote carol out of the avengers to ship her off to be with a man who raped her </quote>Oh god its that one, I think I purged it from my mind.Grease also has the terrible message of cant get the guy you like to go out with you? Then just change everything about yourself to appease him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 08/08/23 5:15:54 AM #59:	mybbqrules posted... I like how the Punisher comics even had him scrape his decal off of a cop car's bumper and set them straight. Meanwhile, in the real world . . . https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/1/AAdkcxAAEvA_.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/2/AAdkcxAAEvBA.jpg --- We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets. <cite>ai123 posted [p:975322909] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>mybbqrules posted... </cite><quote>I like how the Punisher comics even had him scrape his decal off of a cop car's bumper and set them straight.</quote>Meanwhile, in the real world . . .https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/1/AAdkcxAAEvA_.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/2/AAdkcxAAEvBA.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 5:17:44 AM #60:	they should do a punisher story line where he goes around killing corrupt police --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975322920] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>they should do a punisher story line where he goes around killing corrupt police </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 5:21:24 AM #61:	AceMos posted... they should do a punisher story line where he goes around killing corrupt police You know the media would blast that as encouraging chaos and violence against police! 24/7. And enough people will take that at face value and raise hell. I remember when the Australian version of L4D2 had to remove the riot cops from the fifth campaign because apparently the fact theyre zombies is trumped by the fact theyre police, and Violence Against Police is a big no no. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975322947] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>they should do a punisher story line where he goes around killing corrupt police</quote>You know the media would blast that as encouraging chaos and violence against police! 24/7. And enough people will take that at face value and raise hell.I remember when the Australian version of L4D2 had to remove the riot cops from the fifth campaign because apparently the fact theyre zombies is trumped by the fact theyre police, and Violence Against Police is a big no no. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 08/08/23 5:46:32 AM #62:	Ivynn posted... Watchman infamously. No, The Comedian and Rorschach aren't badass, they're crazy broken people. Rorschach at least has the excuse that he's pretty much just portrayed as a regular superhero for like, the entire first half of the story, and even after you learn how unhinged he is he's still mostly working against someone even more unhinged and comes off looking better by comparison. You actually have to think and digest his character a bit to appreciate how fucked he is. Comedian though iirc is presented as an unrepentant murdering rapist asshole for 99% of the book and have no idea how anyone could think he's cool >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:975323073] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Watchman infamously.No, The Comedian and Rorschach aren't badass, they're crazy broken people.</quote>Rorschach at least has the excuse that he's pretty much just portrayed as a regular superhero for like, the entire first half of the story, and even after you learn how unhinged he is he's still mostly working against someone even more unhinged and comes off looking better by comparison. You actually have to think and digest his character a bit to appreciate how fucked he is.Comedian though iirc is presented as an unrepentant murdering rapist asshole for 99% of the book and have no idea how anyone could think he's cool >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 5:48:41 AM #63:	another story ppl misunderstand justice league tower of babel so many ppl think they are suppose to agree and side with batman in that story even thoe its very in your face about how wrong he is --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975323094] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>another story ppl misunderstandjustice league tower of babel so many ppl think they are suppose to agree and side with batman in that storyeven thoe its very in your face about how wrong he is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 08/08/23 5:53:28 AM #64:	Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail. --- See children, Trumbles are bad, and if you don't believe me ask your dad... <cite>Trumble posted [p:975323120] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 08/08/23 5:56:19 AM #65:	MrMallard posted... Ehh, that's goofy elseworld shit. It's people banging action figures together to make them kiss, which is harmless enough. But there is like a shipping critical mass point in fandom where it becomes holy fucking war and derails the entire fanbase. Sherlock, for one - that got so bad that fans were convinced that there was a secret final episode that would explain why the last season sucked and pair up Sherlock and Watson. Supernatural had it pretty bad too with the end of the show not canonising destiel, even if the meltdown was top tier internet entertainment. I like Doctor Who on its own merits. I also got involved in shipping for the first time in ages for that show during the most recent run. There's a healthy balance between fandom and canon, but there has to be a separation. When people don't drive that wedge and make the shipping a core aspect of their personality, that's where I begin to agree with what you're saying. Those guys are nutjobs. Dunno why Missy and 13 couldnt make it work. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:975323137] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite><quote>Ehh, that's goofy elseworld shit. It's people banging action figures together to make them kiss, which is harmless enough.But there is like a shipping critical mass point in fandom where it becomes holy fucking war and derails the entire fanbase. Sherlock, for one - that got so bad that fans were convinced that there was a secret final episode that would explain why the last season sucked and pair up Sherlock and Watson. Supernatural had it pretty bad too with the end of the show not canonising destiel, even if the meltdown was top tier internet entertainment.I like Doctor Who on its own merits. I also got involved in shipping for the first time in ages for that show during the most recent run. There's a healthy balance between fandom and canon, but there has to be a separation. When people don't drive that wedge and make the shipping a core aspect of their personality, that's where I begin to agree with what you're saying. Those guys are nutjobs.</quote>Dunno why Missy and 13 couldnt make it work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/08/23 6:05:48 AM #66:	divot1338 posted... Dunno why Missy and 13 couldnt make it work. Missy and 13 never met, it was a different incarnation of the Master that met 13. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:975323183] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Dunno why Missy and 13 couldnt make it work.</quote>Missy and 13 never met, it was a different incarnation of the Master that met 13. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 08/08/23 6:19:39 AM #67:	spikethedevil posted... Missy and 13 never met, it was a different incarnation of the Master that met 13. Im aware. I still want them to hook up. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:975323266] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite><quote>Missy and 13 never met, it was a different incarnation of the Master that met 13.</quote>Im aware. I still want them to hook up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 6:24:36 AM #68:	Trumble posted... Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail. Damn, just had flashbacks to late high school. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975323306] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail.</quote>Damn, just had flashbacks to late high school. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 08/08/23 8:27:39 AM #69:	Spartan_Jedi117 posted... Batman being the hero ever. Seriously, the bad guys get weapons to deal with him, and when Bats isn't doing anything, same crooks used their weapons on the police. Not to mention he's exactly 100% mentally or emotionally sound himself, if you think about it, the death of his parents is kinda his fault I have my answer. Its this post. I was going to do the whole Killmonger did nothing wrong but thankfully you came along. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:975324376] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Spartan_Jedi117 posted... </cite><quote>Batman being the hero ever. Seriously, the bad guys get weapons to deal with him, and when Bats isn't doing anything, same crooks used their weapons on the police. Not to mention he's exactly 100% mentally or emotionally sound himself, if you think about it, the death of his parents is kinda his fault</quote>I have my answer. Its this post. I was going to do the whole Killmonger did nothing wrong but thankfully you came along. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 08/08/23 8:31:49 AM #70:	AceMos posted... thats what i was thinking of actually another good example is one of the worst comics of all time avengers number 200 no one involved knows how the fuck it came out how it did but its message is uh YIKES I love how in the 90s JL Gerard Jones took a look at this storyline and said I should do this with Power Girl. Technically it was an immaculate conception type deal but Arian still impregnated Power Girl against her wishes. Still super rapey. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:975324403] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>thats what i was thinking of actually another good example is one of the worst comics of all timeavengers number 200 no one involved knows how the fuck it came out how it did but its message is uh YIKES</quote>I love how in the 90s JL Gerard Jones took a look at this storyline and said I should do this with Power Girl.Technically it was an immaculate conception type deal but Arian still impregnated Power Girl against her wishes. Still super rapey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 08/08/23 8:46:20 AM #71:	Smashingpmkns posted... How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet Well, you see, the first rule of Fight Club... --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975324545] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>How has no one mentioned Fight Club yet</quote>Well, you see, the first rule of Fight Club... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 08/08/23 9:00:18 AM #72:	That time Kotaku criticized Smash Ultimate and Persona 5 of having a track with the R word in it, but it was actually saying the term "return it" in broken English. They thought they were calling out ableism, but instead got accused of being racist. And they never took the article down. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:975324689] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>That time Kotaku criticized Smash Ultimate and Persona 5 of having a track with the R word in it, but it was actually saying the term "return it" in broken English. They thought they were calling out ableism, but instead got accused of being racist. And they never took the article down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 08/08/23 9:10:27 AM #73:	Back to Fight Club It wasn't even people's perception of Tyler Durden, but the media (and a lot of the audience) simply misunderstanding the entire point of the movie. The media in particular hyper-focused on "toxic masculinity" etc. because the trailers showed a lot of the fighting scenes. --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975324802] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Back to Fight ClubIt wasn't even people's perception of Tyler Durden, but the media (and a lot of the audience) simply misunderstanding the entire point of the movie. The media in particular hyper-focused on "toxic masculinity" etc. because the trailers showed a lot of the fighting scenes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 08/08/23 9:11:55 AM #74:	AceMos posted... film or book? Both. The Book opens with comedic levels of violence against a society with a tangential relationship to the war and most of the book is about higher ups telling the characters how much the corp sucks and how they shouldn't be there. But it's played a lot more straight so people didn't get it --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:975324826] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>film or book?</quote>Both. The Book opens with comedic levels of violence against a society with a tangential relationship to the war and most of the book is about higher ups telling the characters how much the corp sucks and how they shouldn't be there. But it's played a lot more straight so people didn't get it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 08/08/23 9:35:16 AM #75:	Berserk is one I see a lot of people consistently misunderstand. There's always comments about how Guts has lost his edge compared to the black swordsman arc, but that's missing the entire point of Guts as a character. It's even stated explicitly by Godot that Guts behavior in the black swordsman arc and his quest for revenge cost him way more than he gained. People just think it's cool when big sword man swings his big sword --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:975325209] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Berserk is one I see a lot of people consistently misunderstand. There's always comments about how Guts has lost his edge compared to the black swordsman arc, but that's missing the entire point of Guts as a character. It's even stated explicitly by Godot that Guts behavior in the black swordsman arc and his quest for revenge cost him way more than he gained. People just think it's cool when big sword man swings his big sword </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 9:37:25 AM #76:	Gwynevere posted... Berserk is one I see a lot of people consistently misunderstand. There's always comments about how Guts has lost his edge compared to the black swordsman arc, but that's missing the entire point of Guts as a character. It's even stated explicitly by Godot that Guts behavior in the black swordsman arc and his quest for revenge cost him way more than he gained. People just think it's cool when big sword man swings his big sword On a similar note, fanboys of Android saga Vegeta because they think he was "at his most badass." --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975325251] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Berserk is one I see a lot of people consistently misunderstand. There's always comments about how Guts has lost his edge compared to the black swordsman arc, but that's missing the entire point of Guts as a character. It's even stated explicitly by Godot that Guts behavior in the black swordsman arc and his quest for revenge cost him way more than he gained. People just think it's cool when big sword man swings his big sword</quote>On a similar note, fanboys of Android saga Vegeta because they think he was "at his most badass." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 9:38:44 AM #77:	Dark_Arbron posted... On a similar note, fanboys of Android saga Vegeta because they think he was "at his most badass." that is the same arc where our "heroes" just sit on ass and let gero build his androids in the first place vegeta was a psychotic monster in that arc i agree and nothing he did is defendable just saying our "heroes" where equally stupid at the start --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975325285] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>On a similar note, fanboys of Android saga Vegeta because they think he was "at his most badass."</quote>that is the same arc where our "heroes" just sit on ass and let gero build his androids in the first placevegeta was a psychotic monster in that arc i agree and nothing he did is defendablejust saying our "heroes" where equally stupid at the start </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 9:44:19 AM #78:	AceMos posted... that is the same arc where our "heroes" just sit on ass and let gero build his androids in the first place vegeta was a psychotic monster in that arc i agree and nothing he did is defendable just saying our "heroes" where equally stupid at the start Oh, for sure. That whole arc is infamously one stupid decision after another. What makes Vegeta stand out is that not only was he an arrogant piece of shit who didn't give a damn about his family, and somehow people think that's cool (toxic masculinity), but he also threw a tantrum after losing a fight. He wasn't just an asshole, but an incredibly childish one. Buu arc and GT Vegeta are the character at his best, because he's actually grown into a functional adult. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975325403] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>that is the same arc where our "heroes" just sit on ass and let gero build his androids in the first placevegeta was a psychotic monster in that arc i agree and nothing he did is defendablejust saying our "heroes" where equally stupid at the start</quote>Oh, for sure. That whole arc is infamously one stupid decision after another.What makes Vegeta stand out is that not only was he an arrogant piece of shit who didn't give a damn about his family, and somehow people think that's cool (toxic masculinity), but he also threw a tantrum after losing a fight. He wasn't just an asshole, but an incredibly childish one.Buu arc and GT Vegeta are the character at his best, because he's actually grown into a functional adult. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 9:47:37 AM #79:	Dark_Arbron posted... Buu arc and GT Vegeta are the character at his best, because he's actually grown into a functional adult. indeed GT in general was very good in showing how the character had matured even goku sigh and now we have super ruining everyone but this is not a topic for dragon ball letdowns --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975325461] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Buu arc and GT Vegeta are the character at his best, because he's actually grown into a functional adult.</quote>indeed GT in general was very good in showing how the character had maturedeven goku sigh and now we have super ruining everyonebut this is not a topic for dragon ball letdowns </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 9:51:15 AM #80:	AceMos posted... indeed GT in general was very good in showing how the character had matured even goku sigh and now we have super ruining everyone but this is not a topic for dragon ball letdowns It's applicable though. You could even say that media illiteracy applies to the writers of Super themselves, Toriyama included, as they clearly have zero understanding of Goku's character. Media illiteracy and misunderstanding can just as easily apply to the rights holders and even original creator as it can to the consumer. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975325548] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>indeed GT in general was very good in showing how the character had maturedeven goku sigh and now we have super ruining everyonebut this is not a topic for dragon ball letdowns</quote>It's applicable though. You could even say that media illiteracy applies to the writers of Super themselves, Toriyama included, as they clearly have zero understanding of Goku's character. Media illiteracy and misunderstanding can just as easily apply to the rights holders and even original creator as it can to the consumer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 08/08/23 9:54:19 AM #81:	Yeah, Watchmen is a prime example, for all the reasons listed and countless others. And the guy who was most illiterate of its message got to make a movie out of it! On a different subject, I've seen an opinion thrown around a few times that Aang struggled hard for everything in his life while Korra is a Mary Sue who gets everything handed to her. Like, I get it, you hate LoK, that's fine, but this opinion in particular is the nadir of media illiteracy: Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes, and his greatest obstacle (learning ~~earthbending~~) is overcome in a single episode; on the other hand, it famously takes Korra an entire season to learn airbending. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:975325613] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Watchmen is a prime example, for all the reasons listed and countless others. And the guy who was most illiterate of its message got to make a movie out of it!On a different subject, I've seen an opinion thrown around a few times that Aang struggled hard for everything in his life while Korra is a Mary Sue who gets everything handed to her. Like, I get it, you hate LoK, that's fine, but this opinion in particular is the nadir of media illiteracy: Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes, and his greatest obstacle (learning earthbending) is overcome in a single episode; on the other hand, it famously takes Korra an entire season to learn airbending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArsGoetia 08/08/23 9:58:20 AM #82:	i dont want character development tho i wanna see badass dudes doing badass things forever not badass dudes experiencing wussy stuff like "personal growth" or "redemption" badass dudes dont need redemption from doing badass shit badass dudes know that even being a bad badass dude can be badass save the character development for your romance novels or whatever and let my "muscle dude punches other muscle dudes" cartoons be <cite>ArsGoetia posted [p:975325700] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>i dont want character development tho i wanna see badass dudes doing badass things forevernot badass dudes experiencing wussy stuff like "personal growth" or "redemption" badass dudes dont need redemption from doing badass shit badass dudes know that even being a bad badass dude can be badasssave the character development for your romance novels or whatever and let my "muscle dude punches other muscle dudes" cartoons be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/08/23 10:01:09 AM #83:	masterpug53 posted... Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes, Naruto started out so promisingly too. The dynamic was that of the hard working dropout who came from nothing (Naruto) versus the born genius with a great legacy to uphold (Sasuke). Fast forward to the later arcs and... ... lol, nah, Naruto is also a born genius who comes from greatness. Welp. Consider that character dynamic shot in the foot with more "chosen one" bullshit. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975325751] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes,</quote>Naruto started out so promisingly too. The dynamic was that of the hard working dropout who came from nothing (Naruto) versus the born genius with a great legacy to uphold (Sasuke).Fast forward to the later arcs and...... lol, nah, Naruto is also a born genius who comes from greatness.Welp. Consider that character dynamic shot in the foot with more "chosen one" bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 10:01:46 AM #84:	masterpug53 posted... Yeah, Watchmen is a prime example, for all the reasons listed and countless others. And the guy who was most illiterate of its message got to make a movie out of it! On a different subject, I've seen an opinion thrown around a few times that Aang struggled hard for everything in his life while Korra is a Mary Sue who gets everything handed to her. Like, I get it, you hate LoK, that's fine, but this opinion in particular is the nadir of media illiteracy: Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes, and his greatest obstacle (learning ~~earthbending~~) is overcome in a single episode; on the other hand, it famously takes Korra an entire season to learn airbending. yeeep hell korra is constantly wrong in her views and has to grow and learn to be a better person while aang was ALWAYS right on any subject korra is legit traumatized by her experiences she has freaking PTSD for gods sakes meanwhile aang just gets past his trauma easy --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975325762] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, Watchmen is a prime example, for all the reasons listed and countless others. And the guy who was most illiterate of its message got to make a movie out of it!On a different subject, I've seen an opinion thrown around a few times that Aang struggled hard for everything in his life while Korra is a Mary Sue who gets everything handed to her. Like, I get it, you hate LoK, that's fine, but this opinion in particular is the nadir of media illiteracy: Aang being a naturally-gifted bending prodigy (much to the chagrin of the hard-working Katara) is a plot point in numerous episodes, and his greatest obstacle (learning earthbending) is overcome in a single episode; on the other hand, it famously takes Korra an entire season to learn airbending.</quote>yeeep hell korra is constantly wrong in her views and has to grow and learn to be a better personwhile aang was ALWAYS right on any subject korra is legit traumatized by her experiences she has freaking PTSD for gods sakesmeanwhile aang just gets past his trauma easy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/08/23 10:02:18 AM #85:	Dark_Arbron posted... Naruto started out so promisingly too. The dynamic was that of the hard working dropout who came from nothing (Naruto) versus the born genius with a great legacy to uphold (Sasuke). Fast forward to the later arcs and... ... lol, nah, Naruto is also a born genius who comes from greatness. Welp. Consider that character dynamic shot in the foot with more "chosen one" bullshit. yeeeeep there is a great video exposing this crap --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975325775] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Naruto started out so promisingly too. The dynamic was that of the hard working dropout who came from nothing (Naruto) versus the born genius with a great legacy to uphold (Sasuke).Fast forward to the later arcs and...... lol, nah, Naruto is also a born genius who comes from greatness.Welp. Consider that character dynamic shot in the foot with more "chosen one" bullshit.</quote>yeeeeep there is a great video exposing this crap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 08/08/23 10:47:24 AM #86:	Trumble posted... Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail. I get the impression that English teachers go overboard with looking for symbolism and meaning simply to drive home to students that they should be looking for meaning beyond the surface. No one really believes that every author chooses a characters clothing color as a form symbolism, but if you teach a kid that some people do then they'll actually know to look for it and see if its there. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:975326629] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Every English teacher ever who insists there's a secret meaning behind every tiny detail.</quote>I get the impression that English teachers go overboard with looking for symbolism and meaning simply to drive home to students that they should be looking for meaning beyond the surface. No one really believes that every author chooses a characters clothing color as a form symbolism, but if you teach a kid that some people do then they'll actually know to look for it and see if its there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zithers 08/08/23 2:50:46 PM #87:	basically every film bro movie like wolf of wall street which is condemning those actions but they think its just cool. apparently tech bros also love the social network and inspired them to become entrepreneurs. kind of baffling. i've seen people say parasite is anti-poor people. licorice pizza is pro-pedophilia. the irishman is sexist and scorsese in general glamorizes the mob (and that all of his movies are about the mafia which is just false). every old classic hollywood movie is racist/sexist/whatever. wes anderson is racist. once upon a time in hollywood is racist/sexist. any movie about bad people is endorsing those actions. and so forth. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02lct2g9l1qdlvg6o1_500.gif https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club <cite>Zithers posted [p:975331658] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>basically every film bro movie like wolf of wall street which is condemning those actions but they think its just cool. apparently tech bros also love the social network and inspired them to become entrepreneurs. kind of baffling.i've seen people say parasite is anti-poor people. licorice pizza is pro-pedophilia. the irishman is sexist and scorsese in general glamorizes the mob (and that all of his movies are about the mafia which is just false). every old classic hollywood movie is racist/sexist/whatever. wes anderson is racist. once upon a time in hollywood is racist/sexist. any movie about bad people is endorsing those actions. and so forth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 08/08/23 2:51:30 PM #88:	People who think everybody in Lost ~~was already dead and/or in purgatory~~ <cite>TMOG posted [p:975331670] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>People who think everybody in Lost was already dead and/or in purgatory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/09/23 4:18:47 PM #89:	bump --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975354122] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 08/09/23 4:23:24 PM #90:	There are people who watch Mad Men and see Don Draper as someone to aspire to, despite the show constantly going out of its way to show that is a tragically broken man. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:975354205] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>There are people who watch Mad Men and see Don Draper as someone to aspire to, despite the show constantly going out of its way to show that is a tragically broken man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/10/23 4:59:39 AM #91:	oh here is a good one ppl who think jokers "one bad day" crap from the killing joke is real rather than proof he is just a fucked up person --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975364987] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>oh here is a good one ppl who think jokers "one bad day" crap from the killing joke is real rather than proof he is just a fucked up person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/10/23 5:07:09 AM #92:	AceMos posted... oh here is a good one ppl who think jokers "one bad day" crap from the killing joke is real rather than proof he is just a fucked up person He even says he likes his origin to ge multiple choice in that same interaction. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:975365039] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>oh here is a good one ppl who think jokers "one bad day" crap from the killing joke is real rather than proof he is just a fucked up person</quote>He even says he likes his origin to ge multiple choice in that same interaction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/10/23 5:07:38 AM #93:	To bring up Terminator again, people who think Sarah Connor is meant to be an ideal feminist icon, which apparently James Cameron and Linda Hamilton even commented on. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975365045] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>To bring up Terminator again, people who think Sarah Connor is meant to be an ideal feminist icon, which apparently James Cameron and Linda Hamilton even commented on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X8Azazel8X 08/10/23 5:22:17 AM #94:	If they can get rage against the machine to align with their warped political and racist shit they can do it with anything. --- No matter how gaudy you make your appearance...it is only a facade.. Obama/Biden/Harris Elected Hopes Rise..Fears Shatter <cite>X8Azazel8X posted [p:975365131] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>If they can get rage against the machine to align with their warped political and racist shit they can do it with anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 08/10/23 5:23:26 AM #95:	homelander being like trump <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:975365139] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>homelander being like trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PurpleOutsider 08/10/23 6:38:27 AM #96:	codey posted... I get the impression that English teachers go overboard with looking for symbolism and meaning simply to drive home to students that they should be looking for meaning beyond the surface. No one really believes that every author chooses a characters clothing color as a form symbolism, but if you teach a kid that some people do then they'll actually know to look for it and see if its there. I glad my teacher showed us The Natural, since that movie has some pretty obvious symbolism in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lof7tFKtE I mean, I know they're really subtle about it, but... do you think she might be an angel? --- Your knowledge of scientific biological transmogrification is only outmatched by your zest for kung-fu treachery! <cite>PurpleOutsider posted [p:975365657] in what are s... [t:80530111]...</cite> <quote>codey posted... </cite><quote>I get the impression that English teachers go overboard with looking for symbolism and meaning simply to drive home to students that they should be looking for meaning beyond the surface. No one really believes that every author chooses a characters clothing color as a form symbolism, but if you teach a kid that some people do then they'll actually know to look for it and see if its there.</quote>I glad my teacher showed us The Natural, since that movie has some pretty obvious symbolism in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lof7tFKtEI mean, I know they're really subtle about it, but... do you think she might be an angel? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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