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GranTurismo
08/02/23 9:57:39 AM
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have won the presidency and named a replacement for her, then roe would have never been overturned? or did the conservative justices still have enough votes?
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Were_Wyrm
08/02/23 9:59:13 AM
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Last time I checked 5-4 is still a win.

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GranTurismo
08/02/23 9:59:49 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Last time I checked 5-4 is still a win.
oh, so prob. they needed kavanaugh to not have also been confirmed
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GranTurismo
08/03/23 9:56:03 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
oh, so prob. they needed kavanaugh to not have also been confirmed

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 9:58:57 AM
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Biden still needs to invalidate that ruling and remove the clearly unqualified or corrupt judges.

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 10:00:25 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Biden still needs to invalidate that ruling and remove the clearly unqualified or corrupt judges.
how can he do that though?
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masterpug53
08/03/23 10:04:50 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Biden still needs to invalidate that ruling and remove the clearly unqualified or corrupt judges.

Unfortunately his hands are tied. He commissioned a 'make everything better' magic wand from the great sage RuneterranSnap, but for reasons beyond mere mortal understanding it has yet to be delivered.

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:14:07 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
how can he do that though?
By force if necessary.

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 10:15:34 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
By force if necessary.
oh, so you hated the , roe overturn right?
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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:16:40 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
oh, so you hated the , roe overturn right?
I hated Trump installing illegitimate judges. This is just a symptom of that. This should've been stopped long ago.

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action52
08/03/23 10:17:38 AM
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I mean, it's definitely possible that one of them would have been too cowardly to vote if they only had a 5-4 majority.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, though.

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GranTurismo
08/03/23 10:23:11 AM
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action52 posted...
I mean, it's definitely possible that one of them would have been too cowardly to vote if they only had a 5-4 majority.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, though.
Any of you know, the 6 conservative judges that are in the majority, they're all extremely religious...etc...? possibly one of the main reasons they wanted roe overturned....
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andel
08/03/23 10:26:23 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Biden still needs to invalidate that ruling and remove the clearly unqualified or corrupt judges.

yeah, that isn't possible. wake up and join us in the real world

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:27:47 AM
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andel posted...
yeah, that isn't possible. wake up and join us in the real world
It's necessary.

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andel
08/03/23 10:37:02 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
It's necessary.

there is no mechanism to do that. potus isn't a dictator

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:39:24 AM
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andel posted...
there is no mechanism to do that. potus isn't a dictator
Tough shit for the fascists. Stopping your country from being taken over doesn't make you a dictator.

Guess what constantly arguing in favor of fascists makes you though?

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action52
08/03/23 10:40:00 AM
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andel posted...
there is no mechanism to do that. potus isn't a dictator
@RuneterranSnap seems to be the type who wants their leaders to make themselves into dictators

Or else is just pretending to be that type to stir up shit

Either way there's no point in arguing

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:43:02 AM
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action52 posted...
dictators
Stop using words you don't understand.

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Tyranthraxus
08/03/23 10:45:42 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Stop using words you don't understand.
Do you know the definition of dictator as the Romans used it?

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:48:26 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Do you know the definition of dictator as the Romans used it?
I know it's being used wrong here and that's all that matters.

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action52
08/03/23 10:50:34 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
I know it's being used wrong here and that's all that matters.
fucking lol you're not even trying

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pnut027
08/03/23 10:53:41 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
By force if necessary.
You do realize the military will never remove the Supreme Court justices, right?

Thats a great way to be executed.

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:56:10 AM
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action52 posted...
fucking lol you're not even trying
I don't have to try to beat people defending fascism.

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BunkerBoy
08/03/23 10:56:41 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Last time I checked 5-4 is still a win.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was 5-4 on the case, no?

Didn't Roberts vote against the overturn?
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andel
08/03/23 10:56:43 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Tough shit for the fascists. Stopping your country from being taken over doesn't make you a dictator.

Guess what constantly arguing in favor of fascists makes you though?

if you think a potus can just do anything they want by claiming to stop fascism i got bad news for you, the next time the gop takes over you would get to see actual fascism.

learn how checks and balances work before making yourself look so ignorant tbh

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:56:51 AM
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pnut027 posted...
You do realize the military will never remove the Supreme Court justices, right?

Thats a great way to be executed.
They'll do what they're told.

Of course that kind of force isn't necessary either.

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:57:56 AM
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andel posted...
before making yourself look so ignorant tbh
Fucking irony

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 10:58:29 AM
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Back to timeout the bootlicker goes

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andel
08/03/23 10:59:01 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
I know it's being used wrong here and that's all that matters.

wrong. a dictator would be someone that seizes power from the other co-equal branches of government. luckily biden isn't a dictator and isn't tee-ing up the end of democracy for the right to seize.

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Tyranthraxus
08/03/23 10:59:58 AM
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BunkerBoy posted...
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was 5-4 on the case, no?

Didn't Roberts vote against the overturn?
Correct. He was trying to convince kavanaugh to flip as well but then the opinion leaked.

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andel
08/03/23 11:01:56 AM
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and on topic, no way roberts would have been the swing vote to kill roe and delegetimize his scotus if turtle mitch doesn't steal that seat in the first place, much less ram through acb by bucking their own 'ideal'.

if the court stayed 5-4 roe would have very likely been safe.

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andel
08/03/23 11:02:47 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Correct. He was trying to convince kavanaugh to flip as well but then the opinion leaked.

100% either thomas or alito leaked it

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brestugo
08/03/23 11:38:13 AM
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andel posted...
100% either thomas or alito leaked it
It has to be a Justice. Anyone else would have been caught or "ratted out" by now.

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pnut027
08/03/23 11:45:36 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
They'll do what they're told.

Of course that kind of force isn't necessary either.
They wont. This current generation is great at telling leadership to fuck off.

Gen z will really save this country.

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Doe
08/03/23 12:06:14 PM
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Personally I do not believe Roberts would have voted to overturn if he was the deciding vote.

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PraetorXyn
08/03/23 12:15:23 PM
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Doe posted...
Personally I do not believe Roberts would have voted to overturn if he was the deciding vote.
Likely this.

The problem is Republicans only really stole one seat since Ginsburg died.

If theyd have allowed Garland to be appointed, Trump still gets 2 picks.
If they blocked Garland and werent hypocrites about no appointment during an election year, Trump still gets 2 picks.

But if Ginsburg lived:
If they allowed Garland to be appointed, Trump only gets one pick.
If they blocked Garland and werent hypocrites about no appointment during an election year, Trump still gets 2 picks.

So Trump still gets 2 picks without seat theft if Ginsburg dies. So he only gets a single pick if they didnt block Garland and Ginsburg lived.

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RuneterranSnap
08/03/23 12:16:33 PM
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Doe posted...
Personally I do not believe Roberts would have voted to overturn if he was the deciding vote.
Really doesn't matter. He signed the end of his career by overturning it and violating the will and needs of the people.

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Doe
08/03/23 12:30:08 PM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Really doesn't matter. He signed the end of his career by overturning it and violating the will and needs of the people.
Um, it absolutely matters to the subject of this topic, an alt history hypothetical.

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BunkerBoy
08/03/23 12:36:11 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The abortion ban block was 6-3

But then the actual overturn of Roe V Wade that came from that was 5-4
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GranTurismo
08/03/23 12:52:42 PM
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BunkerBoy posted...
The abortion ban block was 6-3

But then the actual overturn of Roe V Wade that came from that was 5-4
what ? didn't hear about this. the vote for the actual overturn was 5-4? what was the abortion ban block? and which of the s.c. judges switched their vote for the overturn?
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BunkerBoy
08/03/23 1:24:39 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
what ? didn't hear about this. the vote for the actual overturn was 5-4? what was the abortion ban block? and which of the s.c. judges switched their vote for the overturn?

The case that got it to SCOTUS was an abortion ban for 15 weeks in Mississippi. Voted 6-3 to uphold

Using that case, SCOTUS was able to reinterpret RvW, Roberts dissented on that one, 5-4
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Questionmarktarius
08/03/23 1:27:28 PM
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Congress not sitting on its hands for fifty years would have been the better idea.
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Iodine
08/03/23 3:44:12 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Congress not sitting on its hands for fifty years would have been the better idea.
How would congress stop SCOTUS from overturning Roe? SCOTUS has the authority to overturn congressional legislation.

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NatsuSama
08/03/23 3:53:18 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
how can he do that though?
He can't. Just more of trying to push a false messege that Biden can do things he can't actually do.

A popular message to lower voter turnout.

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