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Ratchet and Clank remake. I thought it was really good until I heard all the cutscenes were ripped straight from the movie... I'm not a wussy so I don't usually say this word... But yikes....

No vs mode in Mario kart 7 killed any sort of replayability it had unless you want to play 4 specific tracks in a specific order

Chrono Cross was ruined by its attempt to be a sequel to Trigger

The apparent lack of sufficient development time for Pokemon Scarlet/Violet. The concept itself is really solid, theoretically it could have been the best ever Pokemon game.

Getting on that damn boat in FF15

Fallout: Hitting the time limit on the first mission.

Having multiple 10+GB updates a month just to drive around in Horizon 4.

The only time Yakuza isn't ruined for me is when there's no complete everything achievement.

The Quiet Man actually talks in some of the cutscenes.

Virtua Fighter 5 having an entire store full of alternate outfits and accessories you could buy but the game awards you so little money you have to play for hours and get lucky with a tournament to afford one or two things.

Framerate

Nights of Azure 2

Fuck time limits

Priere posted...

Nights of Azure 2

Fuck time limits

This is the exact reason I decided against Myst. No way in hell I get the time limit achievement.

As a huge phantasy star online fan who's favorite game ever is still PSO episode 1 and 2 to this day, PSO 2 when it come's to its general gameplay actually isn't that bad a game.

What holds this game back from being as great as it's predecessor is that sega created way too goddamn many sub-systems that to be honest isn't even needed. Pages of random bullshit you have to memorize. Even when you first boot up the game you are smacked in the face with one of the most awful user interfaces ever created.

What hurts it the most is that sega also pushed this game to be more of a microtransaction whale-hunting machine compared to the original PSO's simple "get on, play either solo or with friends, find rares, show rares and their special effects to friends, find more rares the end".

PSO 2 when you get down to it is pretty much "get on, play some gacha for this cute female character outfit or cast part. Spend more money playing dress up. Female character outfits is life. Play gacha for this collab/cross-promotional outfit. Persona 3, 4, and 5 outfits! Limited time spend now".

PSO 2 absolutely prints money for sega since the japanese playerbase utterly adores their gacha crap so the old PSO style is most likely never coming back.

PenultmateGohan posted...

I'm not a wussy so I don't usually say this word... But yikes....

Hmm.

Bayonetta 3 making you cycle through characters you play as in story mode as opposed to it being Bayonetta 95% of the time and someone else that last 5% as part of some unique story event or something.

It's not the biggest difference, but I just really prefer the way the first two games did it, and not the way 3 did it.

WWE '13 had some fun gameplay and paid a very detailed homage to the Attitude Era.

But it somehow shipped without two counts. A wrestling game with no two counts. Everyone kicked out of everything at 1 or didn't kick out at all.

Also No More Heroes.

Those shit minigames between missions that you have to grind out SUCK.

Not to mention the absolute Jank the games were filled with. Especially the 3rd game.

The-Apostle posted...

The only time Yakuza isn't ruined for me is when there's no complete everything achievement.

i finished it last night. on 0. i can't say if i'll be able to complete kiwami through 6 (depends on the completionist requirements).
because the two things i suck at most is baseball and pool (i plan to play them even if i miss one or two trophy's).

legend difficulty is what remains. i'll have to overkill it if i need to because i lack a strategy other than mr shakedown and 50 completion points.

kingdrake2 posted...

i finished it last night. on 0. i can't say if i'll be able to complete kiwami through 6 (depends on the completionist requirements).
because the two things i suck at most is baseball and pool (i plan to play them even if i miss one or two trophy's).

Mahjong made me hate the series. Baseball is alright depending on the game (part of one game is built around it), and pool is alright. Also, I hate golf, both irl and in video games.

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How Bioshock Infinite treated Daisy Fitzroy turned me off from the game

Mut ruined Madden. And video games in general.

Limited Key Item space in FFTA

When inventory is limited by weight and your character slows down if you pick up too much stuff.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Chrono Cross was ruined by its attempt to be a sequel to Trigger

Are mods allowed to spread fake news like this?

Masato Kato cited the belief, "there's no use in making something similar to before [sic]",[30] and noted, "we're not so weak nor cheap as to try to make something exactly the same as Trigger ... Accordingly, Chrono Cross is not Chrono Trigger 2. It doesn't simply follow on from Trigger, but is another, different Chrono that interlaces with Trigger."

I hated the driving parts in RAGE

Also the amount of stupid ass mini games that kept getting tacked on in Assassin's Creed Revelations is why I stopped playing the series.

The pokemon shit in ToS2 and FF13-2 also ruined everything tbh.

Chrono Cross is better than Trigger anyways

AnsestralRecall posted...

Chrono Cross is better than Trigger anyways

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AAGm3rAAEtmG.jpg

a warcraft fanboy taking over ff14

Wind Waker -- the graphics
Shadows of the Empire -- the Slave One boss fight

If you play on medium or harder, it's impossible to form any sort of strategy against Slave One. It will shoot you and the only you can win is to have more health/lives in reserve than it has.

A boss fight is supposed to be a test of skills acquired throughout a mission or else it's supposed to teach you new strategies through trial and error. You're supposed to watch for patterns and look for openings. All this boss fight does is measure to see if you've conserved enough lives and powerful weapons to trade shots with it and win.

That's easily enough to ruin a game for me.

PenultmateGohan posted...

Ratchet and Clank remake. I thought it was really good until I heard all the cutscenes were ripped straight from the movie... I'm not a wussy so I don't usually say this word... But yikes....

i put the ratchet and clank remake down during the very first scene. i was admiring the graphics in the garage and the npc told me to hurry the fuck up and look at something else.

how about no npc, its my fucking game i can do whatever the fuck i want. youre just a bs npc.

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i remember it, orcs must die also had similiar gameplay which ironically i heard the sequels sucked for it too

A fucked copy of FF7. After a cumulative 40 or so hours of my file being corrupted 3 times, I finally gave up forever.

The lighting in Dragon's Dogma is frustrating to me.

Ricemills posted...

Indeed. And it "interlaces with Trigger" by shitting all over the ending of the first, having yhe world fall to a comic relief villain 20 minutes after the credits rolled, having most of the cast either get killed by said comic relief or driven so deep into hiding that they're never seen again, cuts Magus' story because they couldn't be assed to give a party member something to actually do, and take every opportunity to show that just about every supporting character, large and small, was irrevocably fucked up offscreen in some way.

And "not a sequel" my ass. It's set in the same world, it's plot deals directly with events of the first game, party members have direct links to the cast of the first, and on and on. It's as "sequel" as "sequel" gets. And while it's a great game, it's specifically the "sequel" aspect that it's shit at.

FortuneCookie posted...

Wind Waker -- the graphics

The graphics were fine. It's a beautiful game that still holds up visually.

It's the character design that was "wtf?"

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Indeed. And it "interlaces with Trigger" by shitting all over the ending of the first, having yhe world fall to a comic relief villain 20 minutes after the credits rolled, having most of the cast either get killed by said comic relief or driven so deep into hiding that they're never seen again, cuts Magus' story because they couldn't be assed to give a party member something to actually do, and take every opportunity to show that just about every supporting character, large and small, was irrevocably fucked up offscreen in some way.

And "not a sequel" my ass. It's set in the same world, it's plot deals directly with events of the first game, party members have direct links to the cast of the first, and on and on. It's as "sequel" as "sequel" gets. And while it's a great game, it's specifically the "sequel" aspect that it's shit at.

What bullshit you are spouting?
Cronos and co isn't killed, no evidence are pointing to that happens. You know how Chrono Trigger works, if something wrong happened then the cast goes back into another time to prevent it.
And this also proves that you don't understand Cross, it's about the discarded timelines. When you changed a timeline, the old timeline are not simply vanish. That's why in Another world Porre is not expanding it's conquest and in Home they are.

Dalton may be was a comic relief, but so did Kefka before he took out the statues .

Yes, not a sequel your ass.
It's another game with connection, not a sequel. Like Saga Frontier is not a sequel for Romancing Saga (FF Legend), or Romancing Saga itself is not a sequel to Saga.
Or you gonna insist that Persona is a sequel to SMT too?

Ricemills posted...

Dalton may be was a comic relief, but so did Kefka before he took out the statues .

Kefka dressed funny but calling him comic relief especially until he took out the statues is probably the most dishonest thing anyone's said about him.

1. Enslaves Terra and forces her to murder dozens of imperial troops just as a training exercise.
2. Sets fire to Figaro
3. Murders everyone in Doma with poison including occupying imperials
4. Tortures espers in the magitek factory
5. Genocides the espers in the sealed cave and then murders Leo in cold blood under the auspices of trying to make peace.

Dude has a rap sheet that makes Sephiroth look like a not so bad guy.

And all of that is before the statues incident.

Black Ops 2 has absolutely dreadful sound design.

Hayame_Zero posted...

The graphics were fine. It's a beautiful game that still holds up visually.

It's the character design that was "wtf?"

I want to agree, but Ocarina of Time solidified for me (at least at the time) that Legend of Zelda was meant to be Lord of the Rings or Dungeons and Dragons. It could have lighthearted moments, but it was meant to be a serious adventure with a stoic hero, legitimate stakes, and dark enemy designs.

In hindsight, it's the Ocarina of Times and Twilight Princesses that are the black sheep of the series. Zelda was inspired by Peter Pan and is meant to be a happy and colorful adventure. But you could not have told that to me back then. Nor could you realistically make me let go of the grudge today.

<_<

FortuneCookie posted...

I want to agree, but Ocarina of Time solidified for me (at least at the time) that Legend of Zelda was meant to be Lord of the Rings or Dungeons and Dragons. It could have lighthearted moments, but it was meant to be a serious adventure with a stoic hero, legitimate stakes, and dark enemy designs.

In hindsight, it's the Ocarina of Times and Twilight Princesses that are the black sheep of the series. Zelda was inspired by Peter Pan and is meant to be a happy and colorful adventure. But you could not have told that to me back then. Nor could you realistically make me let go of the grudge today.

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I'm kind of confused by your post. Are you saying OoT is the black sheep of the series?

Outer Wilds
I bought it on egs (it used to be exclusive) and its cloud save feature messed up my 11-12 hours save file. Had to start back over.

Lost motivation to play after that.

I LOVE me some 2D Legend Of Zelda. My top 20 list of games includes most of the 2D Zeldas in it. I frequently replay them, and have streamed LTTP Rando extensively.

The goddamn mandatory touch controls for Phantom Hourglass and gagsSpirit Tracks ruined both games for me. As in played each one for maybe 5 minutes before saying "Fuck this noise" and returning the game to Gamestop for a refund. I understand both games have a following but to me the controls just absolutely ruined any chance I had of enjoying them.

And before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm not anti-touch controls as a whole. The World Ends With You (DS version) is in my top 5 games and it has arguably the most complicated version of touch controls ever made.

that reminds me when i killed Shadow in my FF6 save without a back up, so I just ended up quitting it entirely.

Ratchetrockon posted...

Outer Wilds
I bought it on egs (it used to be exclusive) and its cloud save feature messed up my 11-12 hours save file. Had to start back over.

Lost motivation to play after that.

lmao

I don't know if it "ruined" a game, because I had many years of enjoyment out of it, but a re-evaluation of the programming in WWF No Mercy has led me to unofficially retire from the game. The game is rigged in ways that attempts to "git gud" will never account for.

The game's algorithm decides whether or not you win. The difficulty will randomly spike on any level medium or above. And if the game decides, they can make it impossible to win by conventional gameplay. You can kick an opponent in the back and the game will register it as a counter, repositioning you so that you're standing in front of your opponent with them holding your foot. An opponent on their leg can stagger back to their feet and the moment you grab them, they counter. At which point, your character may be held to the mat as if gravity had increased ten fold. The opponent, who was nowhere near achieving a special move, can suddenly jump in their momentum and hit you with one out of nowhere. And even if you have enough stamina to withstand it, the game can give them a second one out of nowhere that you won't kick out of.

Sometimes, the game will go into auto-counter mode and it will pass after a period of time. Other times, it goes into auto-counter mode and remains that way for the duration of the match. It can reach a point where the only way to win is to exploit thinking-outside-the-box tactics like pulling an opponent out of the ring from the outside, running away and taunting to get your spirit meter up, or throwing weapons at an opponent from outside of the ring so that you won't be disqualified.

It's not fun to be forced to wrestle as if I were the cowardly bad guy. It's okay if I want to play the game that way. But the game shouldn't be able to say to me, "There's nothing you can do to beat this guy in a fair fight. You're going to have to exploit cheap tactics or lose."

The ps3 versions of fallout new vegas and fallout 3 with all dlcs installed ran horrendously after my save file had gone past the 10 mb mark. Both main game and Dlcs would play at less than 10 fps in certain locations. Using vats had a slight chance of crashing the game or take like 5 mins to go through the process because of the game running at 1 fps. At 14 mb mark (roughly around 120 hours) I was experiencing immediate crashes at the scrapyard and other locations in fallout 3. For New Vegas the game started to crash every 10-20 mins. Sometimes even less if i was in a part of the Mojave desert with sand caught in the wind.

I had to abandon my save files .