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Mr_hulk88 07/28/23 10:59:06 PM #1: |
Just watched the Neverland documentary. These guys seem credible at certain moments but not in others. I'm also seeing that there are contradictions to specific things in their stories. Anyway, what do you think? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArkhamOrigins 07/28/23 11:00:32 PM #2: |
Of course he's fucking guilty --- The ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CSCA33 07/28/23 11:03:31 PM #3: |
Mightve been on the fence back in the day. Cant listen to his music anymore these days --- [click here] (She/Her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 07/28/23 11:06:19 PM #4: |
The last documentary, was proved to be a lie at every level. And yeah he is innocent. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skankhair 07/28/23 11:06:57 PM #5: |
cjsdowg posted... The last documentary, was proved to be a lie at every level. And yeah he is innocent. Source? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/28/23 11:08:00 PM #6: |
I believe there exists reasonable doubt that he is guilty. I would probably find him liable under preponderance of the evidence. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Holy_Cloud105 07/28/23 11:08:59 PM #7: |
Macaulay Culkin and Corey Feldman, two people who are outspoken about pedos in Hollywood are defenders of Michael Jackson. I'd tend to believe them. --- Currently Playing: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Replaying: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skankhair 07/28/23 11:09:33 PM #8: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted... Macauley Culkin and Corey Feldman, two people who are outspoken about pedos in Hollywood are defenders of Michael Jackson. I'd tend to believe them. That just means he didnt molest them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 07/28/23 11:10:24 PM #9: |
Skankhair posted... Source? https://medium.com/@justhoughts/leaving-neverland-debunked-in-10-minutes-or-less-35d2017469ba --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 07/28/23 11:10:45 PM #10: |
Tyranthraxus posted... I would probably find him liable under preponderance of the evidence.Can you rephrase that in non-lawyer language? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 07/28/23 11:12:03 PM #11: |
Honestly I think Michael was in a such a state of arrested development that he didn't have sex with anybody. --- See you next Wednesday. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 07/28/23 11:12:27 PM #12: |
I'll never know but I certainly wouldn't trust him with my kids. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skankhair 07/28/23 11:20:54 PM #13: |
cjsdowg posted... https://medium.com/@justhoughts/leaving-neverland-debunked-in-10-minutes-or-less-35d2017469ba Thank you but that article ignores a lot of accusations. I know you were specifically talking about the documentary but thats not the totality of the evidence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skankhair 07/28/23 11:22:24 PM #14: |
__aCEr__ posted... Honestly I think Michael was in a such a state of arrested development that he didn't have sex with anybody. I dont think hes been accused of having sex, but rather showing porn to kids and using his hand on them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/28/23 11:23:36 PM #15: |
Mr_hulk88 posted... Can you rephrase that in non-lawyer language? Preponderance of the evidence means you think it's more likely they did it than not. Basically means you think there's a 51% chance they're guilty. And even though there's no evidence of him molesting children, there's lots of evidence of inappropriate behavior, weak defenses to that inappropriate behavior (such as the "I didn't give them alcohol they just took it on their own"), and inappropriate conversations. To me, that adds up to a pattern of suspicious behavior where I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turned out he was guilty, but because there's no other substantial evidence, I couldn't in good faith say he's guilty in court. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 07/28/23 11:25:22 PM #16: |
Theres a lot about it that doesnt sit right, but theres also people who seem to have made allegations in the hope of getting a payday. He definitely behaved inappropriately. I dont see how anybody can doubt that. Did he molest anybody? Maybe. Hard to be absolutely sure. And even if he did that doesnt mean that all of the people accusing him are telling the truth, or that all the people he molested came forward. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 07/28/23 11:26:38 PM #18: |
I voted yes just in case --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Gray Matter & Spyro 3.5: Return to the Forgotten Realms He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 07/28/23 11:34:02 PM #19: |
It's clear that Michael Jackson loved kids. I don't know if that meant in a sexual way but Robson's and Safechuck's accusations are pretty spotty. Regardless, some people thought that behavior was weird, understandably so. Culkin said himself that Michael was a shut-in and didn't really know adult social norms. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 07/29/23 3:20:58 AM #20: |
Tyranthraxus posted... Preponderance of the evidence means you think it's more likely they did it than not. Basically means you think there's a 51% chance they're guilty.Oh I see. I mean pattern of weird behavior is exactly why people mostly seem to believe he's guilty, the ones who don't I think are arguing that his behavior wasn't weird. I can definitely get why he'd have this desire to recreate the childhood he didn't really have, which is where his relationship with kids comes from. When I watched videos of him and Maculay Culkin he just behaves like he was their age. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 07/29/23 3:22:38 AM #21: |
Tyranthraxus posted... Preponderance of the evidence means you think it's more likely they did it than not. Basically means you think there's a 51% chance they're guilty.Excellent post, this summed up my opinion better than I ever would. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UndefeatedGOAT 07/29/23 3:22:56 AM #22: |
Mr_hulk88 posted... Oh I see. I mean pattern of weird behavior is exactly why people mostly seem to believe he's guilty, the ones who don't I think are arguing that his behavior wasn't weird. maybe he was recreating the childhood he did have, his dads a fucking creep and his brothers are weird enough that 1 of 4 of them is probably a creep ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 07/29/23 3:24:15 AM #23: |
I don't think the Jackson dad sexually abused his kids ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Destroyer53 07/29/23 3:26:19 AM #24: |
Glob posted... Theres a lot about it that doesnt sit right, but theres also people who seem to have made allegations in the hope of getting a payday. Yeah be it intentional or not the waters have been muddied so much that finding out the truth in this case is pretty much impossible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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flussence 07/29/23 3:29:43 AM #25: |
i don't think he was the most dangerous adult around those kids in the end. --- Editor's note: The sound of children screaming has been removed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/29/23 5:03:15 AM #27: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oro15uws_4U He totes did something sus --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sonichu 07/29/23 5:05:35 AM #28: |
I feel he was a tad creepy in ways but actually molesting kids; no. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 07/29/23 5:21:28 AM #30: |
I believe he probably did something inappropriate, but i dont think he is mentally capable of understanding what boundary he crossed. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrettyBoyFloyd 07/29/23 5:31:34 AM #31: |
I don't think he was a molester, but he did have a attraction for being around kids. But I think that's because he thought of himself as a kid. Doesn't help that he was already mentally messed up on other things. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 07/29/23 7:10:00 AM #32: |
I don't think he did. --- https://imgur.com/a/6KBlCUI https://imgur.com/TpM5kyb https://imgur.com/ZzXmr8X https://imgur.com/a/9svV8Gn https://imgur.com/a/vTiJpz3 https://imgur.com/a/j8PIo7A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chillscream123 07/29/23 7:25:23 AM #33: |
He's weird, but that's not enough to condemn a man. The King of Pop gets the benefit of the doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wandering__Hero 07/29/23 7:29:18 AM #34: |
Hes one Smooth Criminal --- Rip Politics board. Not that anything on there actually mattered ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 07/29/23 7:51:53 AM #35: |
I just don't know anymore. For years I insisted that he was just a misunderstood child in a man's body, trying to have the childhood he was never allowed to have But I'm not sure anymore. I really need to deeply research the facts I think ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oderus_Urungus 07/29/23 8:12:22 AM #36: |
https://youtu.be/2uC8LSV-j2g ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkmaian23 07/29/23 8:38:02 AM #37: |
I think he wasn't guilty...and that he probably was weird enough or mentally unwell enough that leaving kids alone with him in the first place wasn't a great idea. The man needed help nobody was giving him. --- Cuteness is justice! It's the law. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 07/29/23 9:15:03 AM #38: |
He's admitted to sleepovers with kids. That's hella grooming behavior regardless of if he molested them or not. --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UndefeatedGOAT 07/29/23 10:56:58 AM #39: |
Mr_hulk88 posted... I don't think the Jackson dad sexually abused his kids i think he forced them to rehearse constantly and definitely beat and screamed at them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 07/29/23 4:28:33 PM #40: |
UndefeatedGOAT posted... i think he forced them to rehearse constantly and definitely beat and screamed at themYeah that for sure. But I was replying to you saying his alleged sexual abuse was him "recreating" his experience with his father ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UndefeatedGOAT 07/29/23 4:58:45 PM #41: |
Mr_hulk88 posted... Yeah that for sure. But I was replying to you saying his alleged sexual abuse was him "recreating" his experience with his father i dont think i said sexual abuse, i think trauma in general can fuck you up, and everyones different i can see how maybe what i said would be interpreted that way though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 07/29/23 4:59:17 PM #42: |
I think he's dead. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraetorXyn 07/29/23 5:15:40 PM #43: |
I don�t think people make smoke about something for 20 goddamn years if there�s not some fire somewhere. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/29/23 5:16:26 PM #44: |
He couldn't possibly be more dead --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CSCA33 07/29/23 5:23:12 PM #46: |
KanWan posted... EhhhhHe had other people�s young children sleep in bed with him. --- [click here] (She/Her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordYeezus 07/29/23 5:29:38 PM #48: |
Even if he is, he's immune to being cancelled. That would be like trying to censor a huge part of music history, his legacy will last forever. --- Life feels like one big gamble and I'm losing every bet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_hulk88 07/29/23 5:42:24 PM #49: |
CSCA33 posted... He had other people�s young children sleep in bed with him. That's just false though? The sleepovers were a big 2 story bedroom, as Culkin said. I doubt they were all sleeping in the same bed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CSCA33 07/29/23 6:08:29 PM #50: |
Mr_hulk88 posted... That's just false though? The sleepovers were a big 2 story bedroom, as Culkin said. I doubt they were all sleeping in the same bed --- [click here] (She/Her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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