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AlCalavicci
07/28/23 4:55:58 PM
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According to Samuel Alito.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4125436-samuel-alito-on-congress-authority-to-regulate-supreme-court/

Just another sign that SCOTUS think they can do whatever the fuck they want

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Intro2Logic
07/28/23 7:13:29 PM
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This guy is daring congressional Democrats to regulate his court.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/23 7:15:29 PM
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Oh weird Alito is being held in contempt of Congress

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Starks
07/28/23 7:16:15 PM
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Congress and the executive can literally change the size of the court.

Strike that down at your own risk.

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Irony
07/28/23 7:16:31 PM
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Lol ok

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ANort175
07/28/23 7:17:54 PM
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If people are saying "Hey maybe you should be more ethical" and you instinctively lash out at them, that's not a good sign.

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Bass
07/28/23 7:19:26 PM
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Let's test his half ass theory then.

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ThePieReborn
07/28/23 7:19:29 PM
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No provision of the Constitution gives SCotUS the power of judicial review.

Funny, that.

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Tyranthraxus
07/28/23 7:24:31 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
No provision of the Constitution gives SCotUS the power of judicial review.

Funny, that.
Unfortunately the constitution says whatever 5 people say it says

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TonyKojima
07/28/23 7:25:15 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
No provision of the Constitution gives SCotUS the power of judicial review.

Funny, that.


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brestugo
07/28/23 7:26:56 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
No provision of the Constitution gives SCotUS the power of judicial review.

Funny, that.

Exactly. It's inherent. Alito is trying to gaslight here. I'm sure his ConLaw course covered implied, inherent, etc. powers.

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ThePieReborn
07/28/23 7:27:29 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Unfortunately the constitution says whatever 5 people say it says
It be that way, but I just like to highlight hypocrisy when the target is some hoity-toity fuckwit.

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thronedfire2
07/28/23 7:28:58 PM
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I thought it was Legislative > Judicial > Executive

or have I played too many strategy RPGs

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TendoDRM
07/28/23 7:30:24 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I thought it was Legislative > Judicial > Executive

or have I played too many strategy RPGs

United States of Triangle Strategy

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s0nicfan
07/28/23 7:31:20 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I thought it was Legislative > Judicial > Executive

or have I played too many strategy RPGs

Rock paper scissors. Congress passes laws. The president can veto them. Congress can override the president. The courts can strike something down as unconstitutional. Congress can pass an amendment to make it constitutional.

It's a delicate balance, but it only works if Congress can actually pass laws. Force Congress into a gridlock, and the balance gets completely thrown out of whack.

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DrizztLink
07/28/23 7:34:06 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Rock paper scissors. Congress passes laws. The president can veto them. Congress can override the president. The courts can strike something down as unconstitutional. Congress can pass an amendment to make it constitutional.

It's a delicate balance, but it only works if Congress can actually pass laws. Force Congress into a gridlock, and the balance gets completely thrown out of whack.
The meta is far more complicated, though.

Look at how things changed once Joe Brandon unlocked the Dark skill tree.

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thronedfire2
07/28/23 7:35:59 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Rock paper scissors. Congress passes laws. The president can veto them. Congress can override the president. The courts can strike something down as unconstitutional. Congress can pass an amendment to make it constitutional.

It's a delicate balance, but it only works if Congress can actually pass laws. Force Congress into a gridlock, and the balance gets completely thrown out of whack.

yeah that's rock paper scissors

unfortunately the scissors have been too dull to do anything about the paper becoming OP the last few decades

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s0nicfan
07/28/23 7:36:48 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
yeah that's rock paper scissors

unfortunately the scissors have been too dull to do anything about the paper becoming OP the last few decades

Everyone loves a good exploit until it's used against them in PvP and then suddenly everyone's crying for a balance patch.

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ThePieReborn
07/28/23 7:42:37 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Everyone loves a good exploit until it's used against them in PvP and then suddenly everyone's crying for a balance patch.
Not incorrect.

Granted (and a big aside), I take umbrage with the chipping away at the Fourth Amendment that has generally been accepted by both ends. More public defenders/defense attorneys need to be appointed to the bench.

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Block_that_Kick
07/29/23 1:04:59 PM
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And of course conservative pundits are agreeing with him.

Now imagine if the court was liberal majority and someone like Sonia Sotomayor said the exact same thing.

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lilORANG
07/29/23 1:05:39 PM
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Congress literally created his job

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kingdrake2
07/29/23 1:07:47 PM
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AlCalavicci posted...
SCOTUS think they can do whatever the fuck they want

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Starks
07/30/23 12:22:50 PM
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I don't think the constitution expected justices that lived as long as they do now. It's creating a wider and permanent separation away from public opinion.

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TheLiarParadox
07/30/23 12:25:10 PM
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there's probably some other way to regulate them

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Webmaster4531
07/30/23 1:04:16 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
No provision of the Constitution gives SCotUS the power of judicial review.
From a plain reading of the constitution it does. There's also multiple parts about the ability to regulate SCOTUS.

Powers of the Supreme Court
The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court,

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction.

Limits of powers
The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour,

In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

TheLiarParadox posted...
there's probably some other way to regulate them
Mitch McConnel and the Republican SCOTUS committed treason when they colluded to steal Supreme Court seats. There's no good behavior.

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darkace77450
07/31/23 7:47:02 PM
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Remember when Congress granted Justices and their families security at the tax payers' defense? That needs to be gone tomorrow. If they won't allow themselves to be accountable to Congress, then they can be accountable to the people.
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MC_BatCommander
08/01/23 9:14:44 PM
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When was it decided that one of the 3 branches should be just totally free to do whatever they want?

Checks and balances indeed >.>

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Takuya_Lee
08/01/23 9:18:21 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Unfortunately the constitution says whatever 5 people say it says

Only if people listen to them. Funny how no enforcement power works.

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Vyrulisse
08/02/23 7:14:25 AM
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The Supreme Court is a good idea in theory, it's meant to be outside of the political mud but of course in practice it's anything but. It seems like a failed experiment at this point.

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TonyKojima
08/02/23 7:16:45 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The Supreme Court is a good idea in theory, it's meant to be outside of the political mud but of course in practice it's anything but. It seems like a failed experiment at this point.
They should be ignored. Alabama gets away with it so blue states should begin enforcing their gun control laws as written without adhering go supreme court precedent.

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brestugo
08/02/23 7:23:11 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The Supreme Court is a good idea in theory, it's meant to be outside of the political mud but of course in practice it's anything but. It seems like a failed experiment at this point.

In this post-Trump era, all the "gentleman's agreements" that used to govern political behavior now need to be written into statute.

This is what happens when deplorables get invited to the party - all the rules need to be written down now.

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