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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:25:04 PM
#51:


AceMos posted...
avatar has new movies in the works
I did specify "until a new series comes out," which counts for movies, too. And Avatar remains a nostalgic property for millennials more than a new and relevant thing for younger kids.

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:25:40 PM
#52:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I don't think that's the issue, lol.

The issue is that this is being marketed toward Smash Bros. players, and most of those are millennials.
err kids play smash brothers

its targeting MELEE players is what you mean

and that very idea is dumb they should be targeting kids of today


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AceMos
07/27/23 6:26:37 PM
#53:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I did specify "until a new series comes out," which counts for movies, too. And Avatar remains a nostalgic property for millennials more than a new and relevant thing for younger kids.
i think kids can enjoy avatar just fine and if they make a new series with a new avatar kids would enjoy it

and then nick would shit can it because it does not get 1 billion vieews per episode like sponge bob


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TMOG
07/27/23 6:27:47 PM
#54:


ITT millennials didn't watch Avatar, apparently
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AceMos
07/27/23 6:28:44 PM
#55:


TMOG posted...
ITT millennials didn't watch Avatar, apparently
oh we did i said we did even

just said technically we where older than the target demo when we where watching it


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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:29:55 PM
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AceMos posted...
i think kids can enjoy avatar just fine
True, and they can enjoy the 87 designs of the ninja turtles, as well. Don't forget that there was a series starting in 2003 that basically featured barely-updated versions of the classic designs.

The first major TMNT redesign didn't happen until 2012 and the existing fandom didn't love the new designs.

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Mr_Karate_II
07/27/23 6:30:34 PM
#57:


Meh, it won't be the Smash Killer like some people claimed the first one would be.

Smash is the king of brawlers.

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TMOG
07/27/23 6:31:59 PM
#58:


AceMos posted...
just said technically we where older than the target demo when we where watching it
Why does it matter if we were the target demographic if we were the ones watching it? Millennials who watched Avatar can still have nostalgia for Avatar, so it makes sense to include them in a game that's catering pretty clearly to that age group.

This may shock you but millennials weren't the target demographic for My Little Pony, either.
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AceMos
07/27/23 6:32:11 PM
#59:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
True, and they can enjoy the 87 designs of the ninja turtles, as well. Don't forget that there was a series starting in 2003 that basically featured barely-updated versions of the classic designs.

The first major TMNT redesign didn't happen until 2012 and the existing fandom didn't love the new designs.
2K3 made lots of changes actually

the designs where more faithful to the mirage coimics than the 87 show

and there are characters beyond the turtles the shredder was heavily redesign (and his best design IMO)

but this turttle thing goes beyond this game

the recent beat um up rather than use the modern turtles it pandered to millinials

why nto make a beat um up with the new turtles or just original turtles

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:33:21 PM
#60:


TMOG posted...
Why does it matter if we were the target demographic if we were the ones watching it? Millennials who watched Avatar can still have nostalgia for Avatar, so it makes sense to include them in a game that's catering pretty clearly to that age group.

This may shock you but millennials weren't the target demographic for My Little Pony, either.
no shit but kids where still watching MLP

our nostalgia should never take priority over the new generation

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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:34:57 PM
#61:


AceMos posted...
why nto make a beat um up with the new turtles or just original turtles
Haven't they done that, too? I could swear they made a couple of games based on that CGI series in the 2010s.

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:36:08 PM
#62:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Haven't they done that, too? I could swear they made a couple of games based on that CGI series in the 2010s.
they did but they where the standard cheap cash grab kind

compare a capcom or konami NES licensed game to a LJN game

best comaprison i can make

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Seazas
07/27/23 6:37:00 PM
#63:


AceMos posted...
no shit but kids where still watching MLP

our nostalgia should never take priority over the new generation
The new generation doesn't give a shit. Numerous people younger than you have no qualms with 87 turtles and have been constantly posting the infamous Cowabunga Shredhead episode of the 1980s series.
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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:37:43 PM
#64:


AceMos posted...
they did but they where the standard cheap cash grab kind
A lot of times, projects like this focus where the money is to be made. If they're making games based on the classic aesthetic, then that's probably what sells the best for them. Makes sense.

Millennials who grew up with the classic designs will gravitate toward them. Millennials will buy it for themselves, and they'll also buy it for their kids.

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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:38:31 PM
#65:


Seazas posted...
The new generation doesn't give a shit. Numerous people younger than you have no qualms with 87 turtles and have been constantly posting the infamous Cowabunga Shredhead episode of the 1980s series.
https://youtu.be/KbOX8-I72uY

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:40:13 PM
#66:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
https://youtu.be/KbOX8-I72uY
oh wow i actually remember this episode now that i just saw that clip

and wait did they actually NOT do the stupid voices are mental trope

it dotn sound like shredder but he had several VAs in that show

and it dont sound like mikey so yea im curious did they avoid the voices are mental trope

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Ratchetrockon
07/27/23 6:40:44 PM
#67:


Smash killer this time for sure

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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:41:38 PM
#68:


AceMos posted...
it dotn sound like shredder but he had several VAs in that show
It's Uncle Phil himself, who voiced shredder in the series. He's doing his best Michaelangelo impression and it rocks.

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Seazas
07/27/23 6:41:42 PM
#69:


AceMos posted...
oh wow i actually remember this episode now that i just saw that clip

and wait did they actually NOT do the stupid voices are mental trope

it dotn sound like shredder but he had several VAs in that show

and it dont sound like mikey so yea im curious did they avoid the voices are mental trope
It's the Shredder VA doing a Mikey impression
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AceMos
07/27/23 6:42:35 PM
#70:


Seazas posted...
It's the Shredder VA doing a Mikey impression
wow kudos

seriously i hate the voices are mental trope its just insutling

and creepy when done in live action (looking at you power rangers beast morphers)

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cuttin_in_farm
07/27/23 6:45:27 PM
#71:


Seazas posted...
They have single player content and a campaign. It's not copying Melee nor is it "anti-fun" items were confirmed too.

The gameplay was heavily advertised as copying Melee to my recollection.

And the trailer does a bad job of showing the actual fun side of the game. I didnt even know the first game got voice acting, so I feel like they need to show whats changed.

Like, I doubt every character is getting new voicelines, so what could the campaign even be about? For all I know, its just an arcade mode with explanations of why everyone is fighting.

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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:46:20 PM
#72:


AceMos posted...
seriously i hate the voices are mental trope its just insutling
Episodes like that are way, way more fun when it's the voice actors playing the other's role. Another great example is the Justice League episode where Luthor switches with The Flash:

https://youtu.be/6bfBhIM5tb4

https://youtu.be/Kh1CqCAc2fE

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:46:26 PM
#73:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Like, I doubt every character is getting new voicelines,
they are not they are using archived voice clips i can even place most of them

and i bet the VAs dotn get payed for this reuse

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_____Cait
07/27/23 6:47:48 PM
#74:


AceMos posted...
wow kudos

seriously i hate the voices are mental trope its just insutling

and creepy when done in live action (looking at you power rangers beast morphers)

Those tropes arent real and TVTropes used to be a parody site that got overtaken by people who overanalyze everything.

Its just a tv show. You really should relax.

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:47:55 PM
#75:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Episodes like that are way, way more fun when it's the voice actors playing the other's role. Another great example is the Justice League episode where Luthor switches with The Flash:

https://youtu.be/6bfBhIM5tb4

https://youtu.be/Kh1CqCAc2fE
i love that episode

and yea when you let the VAs show off their chops you get something amazing

fairy tail also did a body swap episode and damn did the VAs really get to shine in that one


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AceMos
07/27/23 6:48:46 PM
#76:


_____Cait posted...
Those tropes arent real and TVTropes used to be a parody site that got overtaken by people who overanalyze everything.

Its just a tv show. You really should relax.
how about this i will digest and enjoy media in the way i like

and you can digest and enjoy media the way you like


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AzNDarkSamurai
07/27/23 6:49:34 PM
#77:


looks fun. hope it sells well.

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CM_Ponch
07/27/23 6:51:07 PM
#78:


It looks good, I skipped out in the first one so I'll pick this up

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Gobstoppers12
07/27/23 6:54:12 PM
#79:


CM_Ponch posted...
It looks good, I skipped out in the first one so I'll pick this up
Yeah, first one was obviously made on a $5 budget, but it likely sold well enough to boost the budget for this one. Even though it fell off immediately, it did have a pretty crazy launch window in terms of social media/influencer exposure.

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AceMos
07/27/23 6:59:40 PM
#80:


on the subject of the new turtles game discussed before

i will say this on the off chance they add karai (i know she was not in the 87 show but they could make a version of her to fit the style) i would get it for that as karai is my fave character in the franchise lol

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Prestoff
07/27/23 7:12:50 PM
#81:


One of the devs, on the discord, said that because the first game was made on a budget, they actually went green so it's not really a surprise a "sequel" was greenlit. I put a quotation marks because it really just looks like the first game with slightly updated graphics. Most of the "features" are already in the first game, granted through dlc's and patches. They're really going to show enough new stuff to get me to buy it. I regret buying the first game. It's a fun game, but got sick and tired of either getting curb stomped by experienced player or curb stomping complete noobs online.

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Seazas
07/27/23 7:17:01 PM
#82:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
The gameplay was heavily advertised as copying Melee to my recollection.

And the trailer does a bad job of showing the actual fun side of the game. I didnt even know the first game got voice acting, so I feel like they need to show whats changed.

Like, I doubt every character is getting new voicelines, so what could the campaign even be about? For all I know, its just an arcade mode with explanations of why everyone is fighting.
What? The trailer literally confirms new modes and stuff. The gameplay was very different from Melee too.
>Campaign even be about
Uh, it's confirmed that Vlad is the main villain and every character in the roster has a different storyline.
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cuttin_in_farm
07/27/23 7:46:03 PM
#83:


Seazas posted...
What? The trailer literally confirms new modes and stuff. The gameplay was very different from Melee too.
>Campaign even be about
Uh, it's confirmed that Vlad is the main villain and every character in the roster has a different storyline.

Dude, stop being a nerd.

The trailer says none of this.

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_____Cait
07/27/23 7:57:44 PM
#84:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Dude, stop being a nerd.

The trailer says none of this.

The trailer literally says Campaign mode or something of the like

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CyricZ
07/27/23 8:04:43 PM
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lol now's the time for them to make their mark, now that MultiVersus is put back into the vault.

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cuttin_in_farm
07/27/23 8:06:17 PM
#86:


_____Cait posted...
The trailer literally says Campaign mode or something of the like


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Like, I doubt every character is getting new voicelines, so what could the campaign even be about? For all I know, its just an arcade mode with explanations of why everyone is fighting.


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Hayame_Zero
07/27/23 8:17:52 PM
#87:


https://www.polygon.com/23809907/nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-2-interview-roster-characters

Devs on the Campaign Mode:

I dont want to spoil it too much, but basically we have a main storyline and you start with SpongeBob. As you progress, you unlock characters which you can use in the campaign, and each character has his/her unique story lines. The structure is the same on roguelike games you progress through a series of battles, and if you lose, you keep some of your progress (characters unlocked, currencies, etc.) and use it to further your progress on your next try until you reach the end. And of course, in the middle we have cool opponents, bosses and other elements unique to the campaign.

And ALL characters have voice acting as well.

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AceMos
07/27/23 8:29:18 PM
#88:


Hayame_Zero posted...
And ALL characters have voice acting as well.
based on the trailer the voice acting is just recycled audio clips

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doshindude
07/27/23 9:44:55 PM
#89:


TMOG posted...
Do you realize who this game is marketed to

Look at the cast and when most of their shows were running

This is a game for millennials

I also had this thought. So many of these characters haven't actually been on the air or in the spotlight for 20+ years. It's actually kind of insane that this is getting a sequel let alone had a first installment in the first place. Most kids today don't know at least 85% of these characters unless they are deep into video piracy or watch them on Paramount+ somehow.

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Prismsblade
07/27/23 10:46:08 PM
#90:


TMOG posted...
Do you realize who this game is marketed to

Look at the cast and when most of their shows were running

This is a game for millennials
Tbh Nick hasn't released a single great cartoon show since the loud house way back in 2016, and before that was the last Airbender in 2008.

They rode a single shows coattails(sponegebob), for far to and these are the long term consequences of that. A complete inability to attract a wide range of younger audiances.

CNN did the exact same with TTG. And while they released more original shows many of them were just gimped by the 15min cap, and relocated to a shitty timeslot to eventually die.

ESPECIALLY the action shows.

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AceMos
07/27/23 10:51:34 PM
#91:


Prismsblade posted...
before that was the last Airbender in 2008.
i trust legend of korra counts as part of this being a sequel and all

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Gamespoht
07/27/23 11:07:32 PM
#92:


Prismsblade posted...
Tbh Nick hasn't released a single great cartoon show since the loud house way back in 2016, and before that was the last Airbender in 2008.

They rode a single shows coattails(sponegebob), for far to and these are the long term consequences of that. A complete inability to attract a wide range of younger audiances.

CN did the exact same with TTG. And while they released more original shows many of them were just gimped by the 15min cap, and relocated to a shitty timeslot to eventually die.

ESPECIALLY the action shows.
Facts, now Adult Swim is picking up the slack of CN by playing real action shows like Superman and Unicorn Warriors along with their original programming while the main network just recycles the same 3 shows (TTG, Craig and Gumball)

Your right about Nick too last time I checked they just focused on Spongebob and his awful ass spinoffs rather than work on something original, it fell off a long time ago and cancelling shows left and right certainly didn't help

DC seems to be the only cartoon channel that actually tries these days, both original shows like TOH and Moon Girl slap plus their acquired content has their audience aswell like Bluey and Miraculous Ladybug, it's same DXD dropped in quality tho now its purely used for reruns of its much more popular counterpart

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AceMos
07/27/23 11:11:32 PM
#93:


Gamespoht posted...
Facts, now Adult Swim is picking up the slack of CN by playing real action shows like Superman and Unicorn Warriors along with their original programming while the main network just recycles the same 3 shows (TTG, Craig and Gumball)

Your right about Nick too last time I checked they just focused on Spongebob and his awful ass spinoffs rather than work on something original, it fell off a long time ago and cancelling shows left and right certainly didn't help

DC seems to be the only cartoon channel that actually tries these days, both original shows like TOH and Moon Girl slap plus their acquired content has their audience aswell like Bluey and Miraculous Ladybug, it's same DXD dropped in quality tho now its purely used for reruns of its much more popular counterpart
owl house was fucking great one of my fave shows ever and probably the 2nd best LGBT themed show ever (she-ra is best)

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Kim_Seong-a
07/27/23 11:17:59 PM
#94:


AceMos posted...
on the subject of the new turtles game discussed before

i will say this on the off chance they add karai (i know she was not in the 87 show but they could make a version of her to fit the style) i would get it for that as karai is my fave character in the franchise lol

The 87 cartoon had Lotus Blossom, who was similar to Karai in that she was a kunoichi working for the foot that had a thing for Leo

Granted she only showed up in like two or three episodes, but if they wanted a Karai-like character she's right there

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AceMos
07/27/23 11:25:42 PM
#95:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
The 87 cartoon had Lotus Blossom, who was similar to Karai in that she was a kunoichi working for the foot that had a thing for Leo

Granted she only showed up in like two or three episodes, but if they wanted a Karai-like character she's right there
iknow but not exactly the same thing

and plenty of retro things have added in newer characters

wingbalde has become standard for transformers G1 stuff even thoe she was not a G1 character

for example

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Seazas
07/28/23 12:03:57 AM
#96:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Dude, stop being a nerd.

The trailer says none of this.

This sure does:

Hayame_Zero posted...
https://www.polygon.com/23809907/nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-2-interview-roster-characters

Devs on the Campaign Mode:

And ALL characters have voice acting as well.

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Prismsblade
07/28/23 5:52:06 AM
#97:


AceMos posted...
i trust legend of korra counts as part of this being a sequel and all
I completely forgot to consider it but No, I consider Korra its own thing, and by itself is barely good in my opinion. Due to its inconsistencys in quality across all seasons.

Not saying it's bad but compared to the other shows on its own it just can't compete, and is carried to hard by the TLAB.

Gamespoht posted...
Your right about Nick too last time I checked they just focused on Spongebob and his awful ass spinoffs rather than work on something original, it fell off a long time ago and cancelling shows left and right certainly didn't help
Yea, not sure what happened during those dark ages. Maybe the execs crunched the numbers and deduced picking backing on 1-3 properties was more profitable? And maybe it was tbh.

But regardless its cost them alot more in the long run.

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rexcrk
07/28/23 6:25:13 AM
#98:


Neat. The first game is cool, but it needed more content. Im glad I only paid like $10 for it lol.

I think I like the novelty of it more than the actual game itself. I was a Nickelodeon kid so that game is my childhood (aside from Avatar / Korra which I didnt watch until after high school, and Ive never seen Loud House). Hell, TMNT and Garfield are childhood favorites and theyre part of Nick now too.

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AceMos
07/28/23 9:17:00 AM
#99:


Prismsblade posted...
I completely forgot to consider it but No, I consider Korra its own thing, and by itself is barely good in my opinion. Due to its inconsistencys in quality across all seasons.

Not saying it's bad but compared to the other shows on its own it just can't compete, and is carried to hard by the TLAB.
i prefer legend of korra to be honest i liked the themes it explored

and that it was not so black and white with its villains


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AceMos
07/28/23 9:17:31 AM
#100:


Prismsblade posted...


But regardless its cost them alot more in the long run.
thats capitalism for ya

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