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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:32:49 PM #1: |
https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/14/actors_strike_gen_ai/ Hollywood's top labor union for media professionals has alleged that studios want to pay extras around $200 for the rights to use their likenesses in AI forever for just $200. https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/14zc1sz/producers_allegedly_sought_rights_to_replicate/ $200 to own your likeness FOREVER and put it in shitty films for quick cash grabs. Deal or no deal? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 07/14/23 7:36:51 PM #2: |
I'm 100% in agreement with actors regarding this. It's disgusting. WingsOfGood posted... We are all going to be in jeopardy of being replaced by machines and big business, who cares more about Wall Street than you and your family," said Drescher. But this quote made me chuckle a little. Welcome to the rest of humanity, Fran. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:37:36 PM #3: |
TheSavageDragon posted... Welcome to the rest of humanity, Fran. Fran is already rich. But extras are not and she represents them so why chuckle? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen 07/14/23 7:39:31 PM #4: |
WingsOfGood posted... $200 to own your likeness FOREVER and put it in s***ty films for quick cash grabs. Not just that. Some of those extras go on to be successful actors. So studios can capitalize on your hard work later and use your likeness. --- In Brady We Trust. I've finally realized the secret to making a successful Mearn topic. Make it about CZG - Mearn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:40:07 PM #5: |
Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted... Not just that. Some of those extras go on to be successful actors. So studios can capitalize on your hard work later and use your likeness. exactly. literally insane to offer this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow 07/14/23 7:43:35 PM #6: |
I'd be ok with this if we had UBI --- GT My Lord Shadow "Your Grace, please, the people have surrendered..." "I didn't offer surrender." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 07/14/23 7:43:43 PM #7: |
WingsOfGood posted... Fran is already rich. You're pointing out why in this very post. The word "We" includes her. Granted, it's an out of context quote. Reading the article again, it's likely part of a speech she's delivering to the guild which makes sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/14/23 7:44:27 PM #8: |
Imagine changing your destiny by doing this you could have been the next Jackie Chan where your first roll is literally a dude that just gets murdered on screen in a 1 second part --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:44:37 PM #9: |
TheSavageDragon posted... Reading the article again, it's likely part of a speech she's delivering to the guild which makes sense. Correct. Here is video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7VD1Tt0k1w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davyheinz 07/14/23 7:45:50 PM #10: |
Yeah, thats pure insanity. Absolutely not okay, basically evil. --- Slippi: AVRI#295 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198051768876/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:46:14 PM #11: |
Irony posted... Imagine changing your destiny by doing this you could have been the next Jackie Chan we're your first roll is literally a dude it just gets murdered on screen in a 1 second part except all you ever make is $200 you can't even afford to go see the movies they made in your image meanwhile the studio rakes in billions and you try to sue them and they laugh in your face ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/14/23 7:47:14 PM #12: |
That's not what I mean. Jackie Chan was an extra in Enter the Dragon and he became a very big action star. Selling your likeness for $200 ensures that you never have a chance at becoming like Jackie Chan. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:48:59 PM #13: |
Irony posted... That's not what I mean. Jackie Chan was an extra in Enter the Dragon and he became a very big action star. Selling your likeness for $200 ensures that you never have a chance at becoming like Jackie Chan. I see. Also I thought about this. Imagine huge films with you in it. Could you then make your own film to make some money? Think you can't. They own you. You can't even sell photos of yourself. If you did a branding deal, they could sue you and take all the money. wow ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EthanSilver 07/14/23 7:51:09 PM #14: |
... sigh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:51:48 PM #15: |
davyheinz posted... basically evil. just business just capitalism ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CM_Ponch 07/14/23 7:56:50 PM #16: |
How are Hollywood producers so out of touch --- SW-8316-3213-4720 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 7:59:02 PM #17: |
CM_Ponch posted... How are Hollywood producers so out of touch money ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EthanSilver 07/14/23 8:00:18 PM #18: |
CM_Ponch posted... How are Hollywood producers so out of touch"Why would I care about touching plebs? If it makes me, read me, bank? Sounds like you, a pleb, problem. Know your place." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheShadowViper 07/14/23 8:02:57 PM #19: |
Ah yes the classic "in perpetuity for the rich" while everyone else gets "limited licenses". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 8:04:41 PM #20: |
TheShadowViper posted... Ah yes the classic "in perpetuity for the rich" while everyone else gets "limited licenses". the end state of capitalism is the rich ruling class owns everything and you own nothing ironic because that is the supposed criticism of socialism "own nothing and be happy!" as they say yet that is what they freudian slip actually want ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 07/14/23 8:07:06 PM #21: |
Kinda disturbing how many dystopian stories are coming to life, we've got Handmaid's tale, Blade Runner, 1984, Idocracy and in certain parts of the world Robocop and Judge Dread --- A worthless existence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/14/23 8:16:07 PM #22: |
WingsOfGood posted... $200 to own your likeness FOREVER and put it in shitty films for quick cash grabs.That's probably more than Lloyd Kaufman paid for the car that flips over in every Troma film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVE6yJuO-R4 Truly, a pioneer of cheap-ass studios ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 07/14/23 8:45:01 PM #23: |
tremain07 posted... Kinda disturbing how many dystopian stories are coming to life, we've got Handmaid's tale, Blade Runner, 1984, Idocracy and in certain parts of the world Robocop and Judge Dread Bets on whats coming next? I think Soylent Green might be in the pipeline. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 07/14/23 9:10:41 PM #24: |
tremain07 posted... Kinda disturbing how many dystopian stories are coming to life, we've got Handmaid's tale, Blade Runner, 1984, Idocracy and in certain parts of the world Robocop and Judge DreadYeah, that's pretty much the point of those stories to say that this is what our future could be if we let it happen. The worst part is that for the most part we are letting it happen. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 07/14/23 9:34:42 PM #25: |
Holy shit, I thought at first it was an extra $200 on top of the normal pay to own their likeness in perpetuity. But it's literally just the same shit fucking pay as before, but now they also literally own you forever! How is it even more scummy than it first sounds?! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 07/14/23 9:44:33 PM #26: |
streamofthesky posted... Holy shit, I thought at first it was an extra $200 on top of the normal pay to own their likeness in perpetuity.Wanna know how it's even more scummy, let's say someone on a whim joins in some filming for a tv show or small movie scene, no line, no interaction with the cast, just barely out of camera shot, then say maybe even 30 years later they burst on to the scene as a singer, actor, writer or even the political scene, under something like this they'd effectively be owned by whoever owned the contract that was signed for that very very minor role so long ago meaning this new talent would effectively have to pay out a fee to the holder for every single media permanence over something they probably wouldn't even remember after so long ago. This shit is a scam designed to basically give the elites a way to ensure somehow some way in the future they'll always get paid no matter what, they could even be big enough scumbags to try and sue people whose likeness they use in their products or either sell or license out to others for appearing in said product even if the product is a bomb that flops, because greed is good, greed is endless, greed is power. --- A worthless existence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/14/23 9:47:58 PM #27: |
They went after extras. EXTRAS! --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/14/23 11:03:00 PM #28: |
Also don't they want to do this with voice actors basically? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 07/14/23 11:04:45 PM #29: |
sweet, now all those actors can wait for UBI to be implemented ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_shibe 07/14/23 11:13:14 PM #30: |
TheSavageDragon posted... I'm 100% in agreement with actors regarding this. It's disgusting. Yeah, Fran is an asshole. I mean she is right in this instance, but she was a huge trumper back in 2020. --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 07/14/23 11:28:58 PM #31: |
Hell no. Burn Hollywood, let the strike bleed them dry. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 07/15/23 12:13:18 AM #32: |
Terrible I hope they do away with that. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 07/15/23 12:29:33 AM #33: |
Capitalism is a virus. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 07/15/23 12:44:04 AM #34: |
Priere posted... They went after extras. EXTRAS!It's late stage capitalism in action. When your job is to make the stock price go up by any means necessary then even screwing over people that you weren't paying that much to begin with is on the table. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dabrikishaw15 07/15/23 12:46:11 AM #35: |
Yeah this is gross. xlr_big-coop posted... Hell no. Burn Hollywood, let the strike bleed them dry. --- 3DS FC: 4382 - 2449 - 5707 IGN: Anthony ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pitlord_Special 07/15/23 12:56:09 AM #36: |
Sounds like theyre content with peddling their back catalogues on the streaming services to hold them over until the talent caves Theyre gonna have to get the public on board with boycotting those services if you want to light a fire under the suits asses. Seems like an unlikely proposition at best --- Posted from my iPhone 13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/15/23 12:59:49 AM #37: |
where can I get this $200? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow 07/15/23 3:52:21 AM #38: |
WingsOfGood posted... Also don't they want to do this with voice actors basically?I wouldn't mind this with voice actors that have passed away --- GT My Lord Shadow "Your Grace, please, the people have surrendered..." "I didn't offer surrender." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 07/15/23 3:53:20 AM #39: |
that aint cinema --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 07/15/23 4:06:51 AM #40: |
Future of Hollywood- CGI actors, AI voice actors, Chat GPT scripts. --- Sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/15/23 4:40:11 AM #41: |
How, exactly, did California become both the liberal utopia and the capitalist dystopia? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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