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CableZL 07/12/23 7:59:11 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1679258890805063681 I hope something comes from this. They're appealing all of them, including Stewart Rhodes' 18 year sentence (they wanted 25 for him), but some of them got like 3 years for seditious conspiracy. Ridiculous. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:974800786] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1679258890805063681I hope something comes from this. They're appealing all of them, including Stewart Rhodes' 18 year sentence (they wanted 25 for him), but some of them got like 3 years for seditious conspiracy. Ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 07/12/23 8:02:07 PM #2:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/3/AAGadeAACOtL.png --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:974800881] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/3/AAGadeAACOtL.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/12/23 8:12:04 PM #3:	I agree with this. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974801068] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>I agree with this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/12/23 8:13:03 PM #4:	People get life sentences for less than what the 1/6ers did --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:974801083] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>People get life sentences for less than what the 1/6ers did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/12/23 8:13:49 PM #5:	yeah that shit should be for life, not maybe only 3 presidents from now --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:974801099] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>yeah that shit should be for life, not maybe only 3 presidents from now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 07/12/23 8:14:02 PM #6:	Get em based Joe! <cite>Gritty posted [p:974801106] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Get em based Joe!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 07/12/23 8:14:04 PM #7:	Good they deserve the maximum sentences. In any other healthy democracy capitol punishment would be on the table. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:974801108] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Good they deserve the maximum sentences. In any other healthy democracy capitol punishment would be on the table.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 07/12/23 8:15:05 PM #8:	TonyKojima posted... Good they deserve the maximum sentences. In any other healthy democracy capitol punishment would be on the table. Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:974801129] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>TonyKojima posted... </cite><quote>Good they deserve the maximum sentences. In any other healthy democracy capitol punishment would be on the table.</quote>Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 07/12/23 8:16:47 PM #9:	Good, fuck the J6ers. They deserve worse than they got. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:974801165] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Good, fuck the J6ers. They deserve worse than they got. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 07/12/23 8:17:26 PM #10:	Dark_Arbron posted... Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment. You people love other countries now? <cite>Gritty posted [p:974801184] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment.</quote>You people love other countries now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/12/23 8:18:20 PM #11:	Is this unusual? I don't think I've ever heard of it --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974801201] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Is this unusual? I don't think I've ever heard of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/12/23 8:18:32 PM #12:	someone tell the guy I have on ignore that life in prison isn't capital punishment --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:974801205] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>someone tell the guy I have on ignore that life in prison isn't capital punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 07/12/23 8:21:35 PM #13:	Gritty posted... You people love other countries now? Who's "you people?" --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:974801255] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>You people love other countries now?</quote>Who's "you people?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/12/23 8:22:25 PM #14:	Dark_Arbron posted... Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment. Life in prison isn't capital punishment. No good justice system would give these assholes anything less. --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974801275] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Lots of healthy democracies (healthier than the US) don't have capital punishment.</quote>Life in prison isn't capital punishment. No good justice system would give these assholes anything less.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 07/12/23 8:23:36 PM #16:	RuneterranSnap posted... Life in prison isn't capital punishment. Didn't say it was. I was responding to TK's assertion that any other healthy democracy would have capital punishment available despite most healthy democracies not having it. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:974801309] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Life in prison isn't capital punishment.</quote>Didn't say it was. I was responding to TK's assertion that any other healthy democracy would have capital punishment available despite most healthy democracies not having it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 07/12/23 8:24:22 PM #17:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/2/AAfFpMAAEpOY.jpg --- "Every last inch of me's covered in hair!" <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:974801324] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/2/AAfFpMAAEpOY.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/12/23 8:25:58 PM #18:	RuneterranSnap posted... Is this unusual? I don't think I've ever heard of it I don't think I've heard of this happening either. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:974801353] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Is this unusual? I don't think I've ever heard of it</quote>I don't think I've heard of this happening either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 07/12/23 8:39:37 PM #20:	I saw that, @EwokCommanda --- "Every last inch of me's covered in hair!" <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:974801657] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>I saw that, @EwokCommanda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 07/12/23 8:39:49 PM #21:	#19 I've seen some shit in my time but damn son. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:974801659] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>#19 I've seen some shit in my time but damn son.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 07/12/23 8:42:00 PM #22:	They are scum, I dont think the government should be able to appeal to make a sentence stricter. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:974801706] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>They are scum, I dont think the government should be able to appeal to make a sentence stricter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/12/23 8:42:45 PM #23:	HairyQueen posted... I saw that, @EwokCommanda --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974801720] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>HairyQueen posted... </cite><quote>I saw that, @EwokCommanda</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/12/23 8:43:13 PM #24:	HairyQueen posted... I saw that, @EwokCommanda Yeah I marked that shit pretty quick... --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974801730] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>HairyQueen posted... </cite><quote>I saw that, @EwokCommanda</quote>Yeah I marked that shit pretty quick...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/12/23 8:43:17 PM #25:	pnut027 posted... They are scum, I dont think the government should be able to appeal to make a sentence stricter. of course it should, or any corrupt/bought judge could just give minimum sentences for everything without scrutiny --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:974801732] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>pnut027 posted... </cite><quote>They are scum, I dont think the government should be able to appeal to make a sentence stricter.</quote>of course it should, or any corrupt/bought judge could just give minimum sentences for everything without scrutiny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/12/23 8:46:51 PM #26:	HairyQueen posted... I saw that, @EwokCommanda willythemailboy posted... #19 I've seen some shit in my time but damn son. RuneterranSnap posted... Yeah I marked that shit pretty quick... SUSPENDED --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974801790] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>HairyQueen posted... </cite><quote>I saw that, @EwokCommanda</quote>willythemailboy posted... </cite><quote>#19 I've seen some shit in my time but damn son.</quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Yeah I marked that shit pretty quick...</quote>SUSPENDED</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 07/12/23 8:47:52 PM #27:	thronedfire2 posted... of course it should, or any corrupt/bought judge could just give minimum sentences for everything without scrutiny If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines and was a fair trial, then the government shouldnt be able to go, Well actually, we want them in there longer. It just seems wrong. The trial was held, they were convicted and sentenced. Where do we draw the line? You serve your sentence without issue and are expected to be released on time. Some prosecutors petitions to keep you in longer because they feel like you werent in there long enough. I feel like this already happens enough as is, especially for Black defendants. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:974801811] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>of course it should, or any corrupt/bought judge could just give minimum sentences for everything without scrutiny</quote>If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines and was a fair trial, then the government shouldnt be able to go, Well actually, we want them in there longer.It just seems wrong. The trial was held, they were convicted and sentenced. Where do we draw the line? You serve your sentence without issue and are expected to be released on time. Some prosecutors petitions to keep you in longer because they feel like you werent in there long enough.I feel like this already happens enough as is, especially for Black defendants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/12/23 8:49:37 PM #28:	pnut027 posted... If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines and was a fair trial, then the government shouldnt be able to go, Well actually, we want them in there longer. It just seems wrong. The trial was held, they were convicted and sentenced. Where do we draw the line? You serve your sentence without issue and are expected to be released on time. Some prosecutors petitions to keep you in longer because they feel like you werent in there long enough. I feel like this already happens enough as is, especially for Black defendants. it's just an appeal the same way a defendant would appeal to get a reduced sentence. it's not a guarantee even if it's coming straight from the DoJ --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:974801850] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>pnut027 posted... </cite><quote>If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines and was a fair trial, then the government shouldnt be able to go, Well actually, we want them in there longer.It just seems wrong. The trial was held, they were convicted and sentenced. Where do we draw the line? You serve your sentence without issue and are expected to be released on time. Some prosecutors petitions to keep you in longer because they feel like you werent in there long enough.I feel like this already happens enough as is, especially for Black defendants.</quote>it's just an appeal the same way a defendant would appeal to get a reduced sentence. it's not a guarantee even if it's coming straight from the DoJ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 07/12/23 8:50:00 PM #29:	CableZL posted... I don't think I've heard of this happening either. It's pretty rare, mostly because judges usually follow the sentencing guidelines set out in law. The judge in this case giving a sentence well below the minimum is pretty much the only circumstance where the prosecution can appeal a sentence. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:974801864] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>I don't think I've heard of this happening either.</quote>It's pretty rare, mostly because judges usually follow the sentencing guidelines set out in law. The judge in this case giving a sentence well below the minimum is pretty much the only circumstance where the prosecution can appeal a sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 07/12/23 8:54:42 PM #30:	thronedfire2 posted... it's just an appeal the same way a defendant would appeal to get a reduced sentence. it's not a guarantee even if it's coming straight from the DoJ But the prosecutors word has weight that will cause a judge to seriously reconsider. I guess I just believe in a separate of power in the government, which keeps any one entity from wielding unilateral power, if not in name, in function. A cop arrests. A prosecutor prosecutes. A judge sentences. Once you do your part, move on. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:974801957] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>it's just an appeal the same way a defendant would appeal to get a reduced sentence. it's not a guarantee even if it's coming straight from the DoJ</quote>But the prosecutors word has weight that will cause a judge to seriously reconsider. I guess I just believe in a separate of power in the government, which keeps any one entity from wielding unilateral power, if not in name, in function. A cop arrests. A prosecutor prosecutes. A judge sentences. Once you do your part, move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
willythemailboy 07/12/23 8:54:51 PM #31:	pnut027 posted... If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines Most of these were well below the guidelines. The 18 year one is arguable. Edit: the statute says "not more than 20 years" but that doesn't make 3 years a reasonable outcome. --- There are four lights. <cite>willythemailboy posted [p:974801960] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>pnut027 posted... </cite><quote>If a sentence falls within sentencing guidelines</quote>Most of these were well below the guidelines. The 18 year one is arguable.Edit: the statute says "not more than 20 years" but that doesn't make 3 years a reasonable outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 07/12/23 8:55:34 PM #32:	willythemailboy posted... It's pretty rare, mostly because judges usually follow the sentencing guidelines set out in law. The judge in this case giving a sentence well below the minimum is pretty much the only circumstance where the prosecution can appeal a sentence. Ah, I didnt realize that the judge didnt follow the guidelines. I was mistaken. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:974801974] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>willythemailboy posted... </cite><quote>It's pretty rare, mostly because judges usually follow the sentencing guidelines set out in law. The judge in this case giving a sentence well below the minimum is pretty much the only circumstance where the prosecution can appeal a sentence.</quote>Ah, I didnt realize that the judge didnt follow the guidelines. I was mistaken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/12/23 8:57:26 PM #33:	yeah 3 years is ridiculously short. no one guilty of seditious conspiracy should be free to influence elections 4 years from now --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:974802014] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>yeah 3 years is ridiculously short. no one guilty of seditious conspiracy should be free to influence elections 4 years from now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RuneterranSnap 07/12/23 9:48:41 PM #35:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Nothing repeatable without a ban, it was an antisemitic slur against our justice system --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974803001] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Nothing repeatable without a ban, it was an antisemitic slur against our justice system</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/12/23 10:04:31 PM #36:	brestugo posted... SUSPENDED I miss the good stuff --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:974803364] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>SUSPENDED</quote>I miss the good stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/13/23 2:03:32 PM #37:	thronedfire2 posted... yeah 3 years is ridiculously short. no one guilty of seditious conspiracy should be free to influence elections 4 years from now In my book, sentencing starts at 15-20 for something like that. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974815172] in DoJ appeal... [t:80506982]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>yeah 3 years is ridiculously short. no one guilty of seditious conspiracy should be free to influence elections 4 years from now</quote>In my book, sentencing starts at 15-20 for something like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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