Current Events > So Jonah Hill wasnt enforcing boundaries, he was just a predator

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https://www.avclub.com/jonah-hill-alexa-nikolas-zoey-101-sarah-brady-1850626985

Seth Rogen has the worst luck with friends it seems.

Damn bruh

I wonder if kanye will change his mind again

oh damn Justin Long's in this scandal too

Who is next from the Apatow dumpling gang?

dude really wasn't acting in superbad

Definitely not a good week to be Jonah Hill.

I'm just not gonna say anything.

Jagr_68 posted...

oh damn Justin Long's in this scandal too

Revenge of the PC

with a vengeance

Yes he is. That was clear just from the screenshots.

TheLiarParadox posted...

dude really wasn't acting in superbad

Jay Baruchel was right all along

Sir_Will posted...

Yes he is. That was clear just from the screenshots.

I know, there were just a lot of people saying "he was just enforcing his boundaries there's nothing wrong with that!"

I4NRulez posted...

I know, there were just a lot of people saying "he was just enforcing his boundaries there's nothing wrong with that!"

yeah, that defense was sus. boundaries are typically the things a person isn't willing to do, not using therapy speak to controll what other people can do.

im sure some people will find a way to defend this like the last thread.

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Is this currently just alleged? What's Hill's statement on this?

I4NRulez posted...

Jay Baruchel was right all along

Lol.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/5/AAAtThAAEpvZ.jpg

Number090684 posted...

Is this currently just alleged? What's Hill's statement on this?

he claims it was a lie

https://twitter.com/alexanikolas__/status/1677854801378566144

Given we are only going by her word and there's no one backing up anything she's said before, I'm gonna just not judge and wait for someone else to pop in with some confirmation or something.

Slayer_22 posted...

https://twitter.com/alexanikolas__/status/1677854801378566144

Given we are only going by her word and there's no one backing up anything she's said before, I'm gonna just not judge and wait for someone else to pop in with some confirmation or something.

wait what other accusations has she made before?

Fucking yikes. So he's even worse than we thought

andel posted...

yeah, that defense was sus. boundaries are typically the things a person isn't willing to do, not using therapy speak to controll what other people can do.

I agree that the people defending him were sus. But for the rest of that, I feel like that's semantics. Like you obviously can't force someone to behave exactly the way you want. But generally speaking, there are going to be things your partner could do that would be considered crossing the line (boundary). So the boundary does involve their actions in that sense.

The difference was that Jonah was turning his boundaries into ultimatums. "But these losers don't get your time if you want me." That's an "it's me or then" ultimatum and he did that a lot in the texts she shared.

You can have boundaries without being a controlling, manipulative asshole like he was being.

boomgetchopped3 posted...

wait what other accusations has she made before?

Well she accused Seth MacFarlane of abusing her.

She accused Nickelodeon of a ton of stuff(which, to be fair, Dan Schenider).

She has a...thing? A YouTube show? Whatever, she's activively trying to promoted called 'Eat Predators'. She's trying to contact RollingStone on twitter. This show was created because of what happened between Amber Heard and Johnny Depp(she was on Amber's side, still is).

She blamed Victoria Justice for a lot of stuff that happened on the Zoey 101 set for like...next to no reason.

For the most part, and I don't want this to come out the wrong way, but she does a LOT of stuff...and I mean a LOT of stuff, just to get headlines and attention on her and her projects.

This could have happened, easily. Not saying otherwise. But based on past behavior and things she's said and done, I struggle to believe her and want to wait for more proof, especially for a story that seems so disjointed and out of the blue.

I do think in general Jonah Hill seems like a piece of shit based on the other story

weve come a long way with the idea of consent in 15 years, but to me this doesnt sound like the actions of a predator? Seems like a guy drunkenly trying to kiss someone he thought he was vibing with at a house party and getting rebuffed? Whether we think thats wrong now is one thing, whether you should directly ask for a yes or no before trying to kiss someone is certainly still something people debate,but its definitely something that happened all the time when I was in my 20s going to house parties and something depicted in media all the time as well.

i guess it really hinges on her claim of everyone knew I was 16 at the house party where everyone was drinking and doing drugshow? Why would a person assume anyone at a house party wasnt old enough to be there? Im also thinking back to being a teenager and wondering what a 16 year old would want to be doing at a party with a bunch of 20-something celebrities as well

idk. This isnt a Hill I want to die on or a thing, but doesnt feel like some cut and dry thing where hes a horrible guy based on this thing (he is horrible based on the other thing though)

TheGoldenEel posted...

idk. This isnt a Hill I want to die on or a thing, but doesnt feel like some cut and fry thing where hes a horrible guy based on this thing (he is horrible based on the other thing though)

Lol

TheGoldenEel posted...

i guess it really hinges on her claim of everyone knew I was 16 at the house party where everyone was drinking and doing drugshow? Why would a person assume anyone at a house party wasnt old enough to be there?

Have you ever seen a 16 year old before? You can spot them a mile away. This particular 16 year old was also on a TV show, she wasn't some random girl. People at the party would know who she is and would know how old she is.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Have you ever seen a 16 year old before? You can spot them a mile away. This particular 16 year old was also on a TV show, she wasn't some random girl. People at the party would know who she is and would know how old she is.

No, I dont think Id be able to tell the difference between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18, at a drunken house party. Especially when you consider that those two ages are just over a year apart, and also especially when you consider that this chick was a child actor who wasnt living a normal teen life anyway

i also dont necessarily think a movie star for sure knows who a supporting actor in a kids show is

EDIT: also, I was 17 when I went to collegeI was a loser who didnt party but if I had gone to parties would the hypothetical people who I hooked up with have been considered predators?

TheGoldenEel posted...

No, I dont think Id be able to tell the difference between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18, at a drunken house party. Especially when you consider that those two ages are just over a year apart, and also especially when you consider that this chick was a child actor who wasnt living a normal teen life anyway

i also dont necessarily think a movie star for sure knows who a supporting actor in a kids show is

i'd hope you wouldn't be at drunken house parties with any 16 year olds, personally.

Knew he was a creep. Never liked him. Always had a gut feeling he was a complete asshole

famfam posted...

i'd hope you wouldn't be at drunken house parties with any 16 year olds, personally.

High school kids showing up to ragers was definitely a thing that happened when I was in college, and it definitely wasnt always immediately known

theyd hear about them from older siblings, then whoevers watching the door wouldnt know, and of course everyone at the party wouldnt know

TheGoldenEel posted...

No, I dont think Id be able to tell the difference between someone who is 16 and someone who is 18, at a drunken house party. Especially when you consider that those two ages are just over a year apart, and also especially when you consider that this chick was a child actor who wasnt living a normal teen life anyway

i also dont necessarily think a movie star for sure knows who a supporting actor in a kids show is

You can definitely tell the difference between a 16 year old and an 18 year old. The only time you "can't" is when you're trying not to. And your next two sentences don't make any sense. She's both a well known child actor partying with adults and also so anonymous that nobody at the party knows who she is? Why do you assume people at parties with famous people don't talk to each other about who's at the party? Like nobody brought up her identity to Jonah, talked about the network her show is on, and then that didn't lead to questions about her age and if it was appropriate to hook up with her? Fuck out of here lol

TheGoldenEel posted...

EDIT: also, I was 17 when I went to collegeI was a loser who didnt party but if I had gone to parties would the hypothetical people who I hooked up with have been considered predators?

If they were plying you with alcohol, then yes.

A_Good_Boy posted...

If they were plying you with alcohol, then yes.

Do you think I told everyone I met that I was underage?

TheGoldenEel posted...

Do you think I told everyone I met that I was underage?

Are you a famous actor on TV at a Hollywood house party with other actors where everyone talks to each other about each other so they'd definitely know for certain you weren't 21 and were thus plying you with alcohol when you underage to loosen you up and make it easier to force themselves on you like Jonah Hill did?

A_Good_Boy posted...

Are you a famous actor on TV at a Hollywood house party with other actors where everyone talks to each other about each other so they'd definitely know for certain you weren't 21 and were thus plying you with alcohol when you underage to loosen you up and make it easier to force themselves on you like Jonah Hill did?

I just dont buy that everyone at the party knew who this girl, whose only notable credit at the time was a supporting role on a Nickelodeon show, was, and that she was underage.

I think its definitely plausible, even likely, that people had no idea. Thats all Im saying

24 year old sexually assaulting a 16 year old. And she hid that all these years. That is a shame. Could have saved so many people if he had been outed as a predator in 2008.

TheGoldenEel posted...

I do think in general Jonah Hill seems like a piece of shit based on the other story

weve come a long way with the idea of consent in 15 years, but to me this doesnt sound like the actions of a predator? Seems like a guy drunkenly trying to kiss someone he thought he was vibing with at a house party and getting rebuffed? Whether we think thats wrong now is one thing, whether you should directly ask for a yes or no before trying to kiss someone is certainly still something people debate,but its definitely something that happened all the time when I was in my 20s going to house parties and something depicted in media all the time as well.

i guess it really hinges on her claim of everyone knew I was 16 at the house party where everyone was drinking and doing drugshow? Why would a person assume anyone at a house party wasnt old enough to be there? Im also thinking back to being a teenager and wondering what a 16 year old would want to be doing at a party with a bunch of 20-something celebrities as well

idk. This isnt a Hill I want to die on or a thing, but doesnt feel like some cut and dry thing where hes a horrible guy based on this thing (he is horrible based on the other thing though)

What the fuck? He was older than her, he's a predator. There's zero excuse for what he did.

BlueTigerLion posted...

24 year old sexually assaulting a 16 year old. And she hid that all these years. That is a shame. Could have saved so many people if he had been outed as a predator in 2008.

Shed have been blacklisted and buried if she said anything.

TheGoldenEel posted...

Stop defending what he did, like what the fuck is wrong with you?

TheGoldenEel posted...

I just dont buy that everyone at the party knew who this girl, whose only notable credit at the time was a supporting role on a Nickelodeon show, was, and that she was underage.

I think its definitely plausible, even likely, that people had no idea. Thats all Im saying

That's because you keep thinking of it in the same way as a typical college party. Random people can't just waltz into a celebrity's house. She was there because people knew she was in the industry. There's no way that she was completely unknown to everyone there.

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Donald Trump now pursuing legal action against Hill for stealing his move.

Cuticrusader09 posted...

Shed have been blacklisted and buried if she said anything.

Happened to Brendan Fraser. Poor guy.

Cuticrusader09 posted...

Shed have been blacklisted and buried if she said anything.

MeToo happened though. James Franco getting outed as a predator would have been a great time to come forward against Jonah Hill. But I get it women come forward when they feel comfortable and it is this Sarah Brady situation she choose.

Oof

TheGoldenEel posted...

I do think in general Jonah Hill seems like a piece of shit based on the other story

weve come a long way with the idea of consent in 15 years, but to me this doesnt sound like the actions of a predator? Seems like a guy drunkenly trying to kiss someone he thought he was vibing with at a house party and getting rebuffed? Whether we think thats wrong now is one thing, whether you should directly ask for a yes or no before trying to kiss someone is certainly still something people debate,but its definitely something that happened all the time when I was in my 20s going to house parties and something depicted in media all the time as well.

i guess it really hinges on her claim of everyone knew I was 16 at the house party where everyone was drinking and doing drugshow? Why would a person assume anyone at a house party wasnt old enough to be there? Im also thinking back to being a teenager and wondering what a 16 year old would want to be doing at a party with a bunch of 20-something celebrities as well

idk. This isnt a Hill I want to die on or a thing, but doesnt feel like some cut and dry thing where hes a horrible guy based on this thing (he is horrible based on the other thing though)

no, you shouldn't go about kissing strangers while you/they are drunk and/or high without permission

NoxObscuras posted...

That's because you keep thinking of it in the same way as a typical college party. Random people can't just waltz into a celebrity's house. She was there because people knew she was in the industry. There's no way that she was completely unknown to everyone there.

its also completely plausible she was unknown to some of the people there

its also plausible that, given she was at the party in the first place, people knew who she was but didnt know she was underage

the way she phrased it is he knew I was underage not I told him I was underage

if it happened exactly as described, hes a creep for sure.

like I said, not someone I want to go to bat for or anything

Idk man, she said she was 16 at the time and this is what she looked like at 16

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/5/AAbtL8AAEpxR.jpg

I know adults can have a baby face, but as a grown man, I would at least be asking questions about how old she is before hitting on her. Let alone (allegedly) jamming my tongue down her throat (which, by the way, isn't something you should do without consent and it doesn't matter if you're drunk or not, that's no excuse)

Plus, it STILL makes me question every adult's judgment at that party for not making sure there aren't any minors there. That's just basic common sense.

TheLiarParadox posted...

dude really wasn't acting in superbad

Apparently, he hated the dude that played McLovin because he was funnier than him on set and got more laughs.

A_Good_Boy posted...

People at the party would know who she is and would know how old she is.

No they wouldnt and it just kinda shows how many people here have never been to an actual party before.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Plus, it STILL makes me question every adult's judgment at that party for not making sure there aren't any minors there. That's just basic common sense.

Minors trying to attend parties is a tale as old as time. FFS Jonah Hill literally made a movie about that exact thing

I also dont buy her saying they were forcing alcohol on them. Im sorry but I just dont see it going down like that.

but thats in no way me denying that Jonah assaulted her or that he doesnt sound like a scumbag.