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SupermanLost
07/11/23 11:36:18 PM
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https://www.tmz.com/2023/07/11/kevin-costner-pay-estranged-wife-christine-baumgartner-129k-child-support-divorce-case/

Kevin Costner's one step closer to finding out what he owes his estranged wife for child support ... a judge tentatively ruled the actor will be coughing up more than $129k a month. According to new legal docs, obtained by TMZ, the judge in their divorce case says Kevin must pay Christine Baumgartner $129,755 per month in child support. The ruling is tentative, subject to another upcoming hearing though the decision rarely changes. The figure is a little over half of what Kevin's estranged wife was gunning for ... she requested $248k, a figure Kevin's accountant said included more than $100k for cosmetic procedures.

TMZ broke the story ... Kevin initially offered Christine $51,940, in addition to him paying all the children's expenses, but she scoffed at the figure ... saying the offer was "completely inappropriate." According to the docs, Kevin and Christine will each be on the hook for 50% of their kids' health care expenses, plus their extracurricular activities and private school tuition. Kevin is also being ordered to advance Christine $200k for attorney's fees and another $100k in forensic costs.
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Punished_Blinx
07/11/23 11:37:52 PM
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Another rich guy pays a single percentage of his income to his ex-wife who is looking after his kids. Who cares?

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megamanfreakXD
07/11/23 11:44:41 PM
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Glad I am single with a physician salary

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07/11/23 11:45:13 PM
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So that's why he wanted to get hit by a tornado

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ForsakenHermit
07/11/23 11:45:26 PM
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This is why child support should have a limit. Kevin Costner's kid(s) don't need that much money a month, fuck off.

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Punished_Blinx
07/11/23 11:47:35 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
This is why child support should have a limit. Kevin Costner's kid(s) don't need that much money a month, fuck off.

Kevin Costner doesn't need that money anymore than his kids do. He's worth over $250 million.

If the dude wanted to keep every cent of his wealth there is an easy solution. Don't have kids.

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Gritty
07/11/23 11:48:55 PM
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Its fair as long as their is an independent audit done each year.

im sure none of that happens, however.
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hitokoriX
07/11/23 11:51:57 PM
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Child support shouldn't be that way -- and I'm saying it because it messes with non millionaires too. He's paying for a lifestyle.

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ForsakenHermit
07/11/23 11:53:05 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Kevin Costner doesn't need that money anymore than his kids do. He's worth over $250 million.

If the dude wanted to keep every cent of his wealth there is an easy solution. Don't have kids.
Child support should be based on what it takes to provide for a child. There's plenty of justifiable areas where the wealthy should pay more for what they earn in taxes. Child support should max out at a certain point. There's no good reason to spend six figures on it a month, none.

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Haejin
07/11/23 11:53:26 PM
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why do you need that much to raise 3 kids?

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ForsakenHermit
07/11/23 11:54:56 PM
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Haejin posted...
why do you need that much to raise 3 kids?
You don't.

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deoxxys
07/11/23 11:57:04 PM
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SupermanLost posted...
... she requested $248k, a figure Kevin's accountant said included more than $100k for cosmetic procedures
Wtf did the children need cosmetic procedures for?

How many children does have ten?

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 12:00:09 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Child support should be based on what it takes to provide for a child. There's plenty of justifiable areas where the wealthy should pay more for what they earn in taxes. Child support should max out at a certain point. There's no good reason to spend six figures on it a month, none.

The reason is he's a rich dude who had kids and that money means nothing to him.

If the guy wants to be a good father providing his kids a similar life to his own shouldn't be a big ask.

Otherwise he can try and claim custody for himself and raise those kids himself.

Rich people already barely have any consequences to their actions. Why add having children to that list?

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Enclave
07/12/23 12:05:12 AM
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Who cares? Rich fuck marginally less rich, news at 11.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 12:06:46 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
The reason is he's a rich dude who had kids and that money means nothing to him.

If the guy wants to be a good father providing his kids a similar life to his own shouldn't be a big ask.

Otherwise he can try and claim custody for himself and raise those kids himself.

Rich people already barely have any consequences to their actions. Why add having children to that list?
This system serves to create more rich assholes not less ones. Part of being a good parent is knowing when not to spoil your kids rotten.

Nobody's feeling sympathy for Costner losing money. It's about his wife and kids getting money they don't need and calling it child support when it's just glorified alimony.

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DirkDiggles
07/12/23 12:07:07 AM
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Protip: Always wear a rubber.

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Smashingpmkns
07/12/23 12:07:34 AM
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Couldn't care less what rich ass Kevin Costner has to pay in child support tbh. If you're in a place where you are ordered to pay that much and you can easily afford it then boo hoo

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 12:07:46 AM
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SupermanLost posted...
According to the docs, Kevin and Christine will each be on the hook for 50% of their kids' health care expenses, plus their extracurricular activities and private school tuition.
So they're both paying $129k a month to support the kids?

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Questionmarktarius
07/12/23 12:08:49 AM
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deoxxys posted...
Wtf did the children need cosmetic procedures for?
Mama needs a boob job, for the kids!
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emblem-man
07/12/23 12:09:06 AM
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I always feel like these stories are meant as anger porn. We don't even know any background.

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Dark_Arbron
07/12/23 12:10:15 AM
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As long as its audited properly then I dont care if child support scales with wealth.

Granted I really shouldnt care about child support at all since Im not a parent and never will be. But sometimes I cant help it. Its one of my many flaws.

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Pitlord_Special
07/12/23 12:12:35 AM
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MisogynyFAQs suddenly in favor of the rich dodging the consequences of their actions if it means a woman and her kids coming up with the short end of the stick.

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 12:12:58 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
This system serves to create more rich assholes not less ones. Part of being a good parent is knowing when not to spoil your kids rotten.

Nobody's feeling sympathy for Costner losing money. It's about his wife and kids getting money they don't need and calling it child support when it's just glorified alimony.

I like how you act court cases like this are about avoiding spoiling children and not rich dudes trying to retain as much as their wealth as possible.

Wow crazy how a divorce is a great opportunity to stop giving your kids as much support and money. What an awesome moral lesson.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 12:23:04 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I like how you act court cases like this are about avoiding spoiling children and not rich dudes trying to retain as much as their wealth as possible.

Wow crazy how a divorce is a great opportunity to stop giving your kids as much support and money. What an awesome moral lesson.
Did you miss the part where Costner offered to pay for all the kids expenses?

Nobody's arguing that Costner should be off the hook completely with his kids. Just that children don't need hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on them every single month.You're pushing a strawman argument and it's making you look foolish, stop.

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 12:29:55 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Did you miss the part where Costner offered to pay for all the kids expenses?

Nobody's arguing that Costner should be off the hook completely with his kids. Just that children don't need hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on them every single month.You're pushing a strawman argument and it's making you look foolish, stop.

You get that the kids expenses was on top of his 50k offer right? Which would likely put it in the range the court decided on anyway?

These aren't kids who are getting clothes from Walmart in a public school. The expenses are expensive because of who he is and who they are.

Hell the article says she also needs to pay 50% of those expenses so he might be considered the winner over her considering she's getting half of what she was asking for.

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Allanon23
07/12/23 12:30:57 AM
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Actually insane. He was offering to pay ALL of the kids expenses, give $1mil to the ex wife to buy a home, AND pay the mortgage on that home for a year along with giving $51k a month and that offer wasn't good?

Divorce court is such a fucking joke.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 12:35:37 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
You get that the kids expenses was on top of his 50k offer right? Which would likely put it in the range the court decided on anyway?

These aren't kids who are getting clothes from Walmart in a public school. The expenses are expensive because of who he is and who they are.
His kids don't need luxury clothing and private tutors. They shouldn't be entitled to live like kings just because daddy's rich. That's how you end up creating more rich assholes like the Trump brats.

Child support should be about giving children essential needs not frivolous luxuries.


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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 12:35:54 AM
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It's pretty fucked that he's kicking the kids out of their home too. Him making the wife leave isn't a big deal, but why's he kicking them out too? That's pretty fucked up. He can def pay that $129k if a portion of it is going to a family therapist to help the kids cope from the fact that their father is awful.

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 12:41:22 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
His kids don't need luxury clothing and private tutors. They shouldn't be entitled to live like kings just because daddy's rich. That's how you end up creating more rich assholes like the Trump brats.

Child support should be about giving children essential needs not frivolous luxuries.

Trump's kids are assholes because he treats them like garbage. He's the exact kind of garbage human who needs to be forced to pay people who are left with the consequences of his actions.

Child support is about making the partner who leaves pay their dues to the children they are no longer raising full time. Otherwise they can leave their ex to raise their kids on her own with no consequence and no accountability. It scales with rich people because that's how it should be.

Deadbeat Dads aren't entitled to their wealth just because you feel kids shouldn't be given private tutoring and fancy clothes.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 12:47:50 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Trump's kids are assholes because he treats them like garbage. He's the exact kind of garbage human who needs to be forced to pay people who are left with the consequences of his actions.

Child support is about making the partner who leaves pay their dues to the children they are no longer raising full time. Otherwise they can leave their ex to raise their kids on her own with no consequence and no accountability. It scales with rich people because that's how it should be.

Deadbeat Dads aren't entitled to their wealth just because you feel kids shouldn't be given private tutoring and fancy clothes.
Unlike you I don't think kids are entitled to luxuries just because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Calling that child support spits in the face of every kid who barely gets any support form their fathers because they have next to nothing to give

Any talk from you about the rich paying their fair share is just concern trolling that's not fooling anyone. You're in favor of creating more rich assholes not less ones and you have made that abundantly clear by simping for Costner's spoiled brats.

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 12:51:34 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Unlike you I don't think kids are entitled to luxuries just because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Calling that child support spits in the face of every kid who barely gets any support form their fathers because they have next to nothing to give

Any talk from you about the rich paying their fair share is just concern trolling that's not fooling anyone. You're in favor of creating more rich assholes not less ones and you have made that abundantly clear by simping for Costner's spoiled brats.

You're arguing that deadbeat Dads should have the option to force that silver spoon from their kids mouth and say 'that's mine'

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kingdrake2
07/12/23 12:54:21 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
That's how you end up creating more rich assholes like the Trump brats.


they call it "affluenza".

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 12:56:13 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
You're arguing that deadbeat Dads should have the option to force that silver spoon from their kids mouth and say 'that's mine'
No I'm arguing that child support should have limits based on providing essential needs. I have no problem with Costner paying a lot of child support a month. More than what the average person makes a year is asinine as is anyone in favor of it because having rich parents means you're entitled to luxuries.

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Priere
07/12/23 12:56:39 AM
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Lets see if he's dumb enough to get married a 3rd time

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 12:56:59 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
they call it "affluenza".
Affluenza is when wealth is a shield used to protect you from the consequences of your actions, such as having several children and only paying pennies in child support.

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 12:57:44 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
No I'm arguing that child support should have limits based on providing essential needs.
What's an essential need and who's the one that defines it?

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 1:01:04 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
No I'm arguing that child support should have limits based on providing essential needs. I have no problem with Costner paying a lot of child support a month. More than what the average person makes a year is asinine as is anyone in favor of it because having rich parents means you're entitled to luxuries.

You're entitled to support from your rich parent while you're still a child being raised yes. They're your parent.

Costner was already offering more per month than what most people make per year. You're saying that he only needs to offer what? Like 4k a month? Which would still be significantly higher than the average person?

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Tyranthraxus
07/12/23 1:02:32 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
You're entitled to support from your rich parent while you're still a child being raised yes. They're your parent.

Costner was already offering more per month than what most people make per year. You're saying that he only needs to offer what? Like 4k a month? Which would still be significantly higher than the average person?

I think the point is even something like 20k a month is high but at least it's not more than the average yearly salary delivered every single month.

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Pitlord_Special
07/12/23 1:04:06 AM
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His wife agreed to have children with him with the understanding that those children would be afforded a certain standard of living.

But we have cats arguing it's fair to pull the rug out from under her and only pay her enough to raise the kids in a 2 BR apartment feeding them ramen and beans while sending them to a low tier public school on the bus.

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chaos_knight
07/12/23 1:04:18 AM
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The system is biased against men from the start. Always.

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 1:06:03 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
The system is biased against men from the start. Always.
No it's not, they have just as much of an ability to wear protection as women do.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 1:06:06 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
What's an essential need and who's the one that defines it?
A fair question. I'd say a good starting point is to say that luxuries are by definition not essential and should not be part of child support. What a luxury is has a clear definition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_goods

I think child support should be capped at lower upper class living standards at the highest.


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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 1:10:39 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I think the point is even something like 20k a month is high but at least it's not more than the average yearly salary delivered every single month.

The guy probably spends more than that on his cars.

There's nothing average about these people and what average people do or don't do or have shouldn't be relevant for divorce and child support cases. It's all about the people in question.

Is Costner even unhappy with this result to begin with? That rarely seems to even come up. People see these figures and make up some outrage over these poor celebrities who have expenses every month that dwarf what everyone on this board makes.

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/23 1:11:16 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
A fair question. I'd say a good starting point is to say that luxuries are by definition not essential and should not be part of child support. What a luxury is has a clear definition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_goods

I think child support should be capped at lower upper class living standards at the highest.
I don't understand what point you're trying to make with that link and how it relates to this case. According to the article in the op it says that Kevin Costner is on the hook for paying for half of his 3 children's Healthcare, tuition, and extracurricular costs. Are you trying to say that Healthcare, school tuition, and extracurriculars aren't essential? If they're not, then what should his children actually expect to receive from him?

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 1:16:17 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
The guy probably spends more than that on his cars.

There's nothing average about these people and what average people do or don't do or have shouldn't be relevant for divorce and child support cases. It's all about the people in question.

Is Costner even unhappy with this result to begin with? That rarely seems to even come up. People see these figures and make up some outrage over these poor celebrities who have expenses every month that dwarf what everyone on this board makes.
NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT KEVIN COSTNER LOSING MONEY THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT AND YOU NEED TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD. @Punished_Blinx

People are upset that these kids are getting shit they don't need under the guise of support. It's not about Kevin's bank account it's the idea that children are entitled to riches just because their parents have them which is fucking dumb.

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Tyranthraxus
07/12/23 1:16:41 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
The guy probably spends more than that on his cars.

There's nothing average about these people and what average people do or don't do or have shouldn't be relevant for divorce and child support cases. It's all about the people in question.

Is Costner even unhappy with this result to begin with? That rarely seems to even come up. People see these figures and make up some outrage over these poor celebrities who have expenses every month that dwarf what everyone on this board makes.

I don't know how Costner feels. I figure if he actually loves his kids then being apart from them hurts worse than the money.

But my personal issue here is that I hate absurd levels of generational wealth. People shouldn't be allowed to give their children this much money voluntarily in the first place.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 1:19:10 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
I don't understand what point you're trying to make with that link and how it relates to this case. According to the article in the op it says that Kevin Costner is on the hook for paying for half of his 3 children's Healthcare, tuition, and extracurricular costs. Are you trying to say that Healthcare, school tuition, and extracurriculars aren't essential? If they're not, then what should his children actually expect to receive from him?
School tuition is not essential unless his kids are in college. Neither are extracurricular activities as their name suggests. Healthcare is essential yes.

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Punished_Blinx
07/12/23 1:21:48 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT KEVIN COSTNER LOSING MONEY THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT AND YOU NEED TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD. @Punished_Blinx

Peopleare upset that these kids are getting shit they don't need under the guise of support. It's not about Kevin's bank account it-s the idea that children are entitled to riches just because their parents have them which is fucking dumb.

I'm sure you random message board guy who is outraged over figures in a TMZ article knows more than their family and the courts about what they need and don't need.

Those kids who are in an elite family school who have an established life with their friends? Fuck em. They need to sell their house, move and live and learn with the rest of us! That'll teach those kids who did nothing wrong outside of being born to rich and famous people.

Tyranthraxus posted...
I don't know how Costner feels. I figure if he actually loves his kids then being apart from them hurts worse than the money.

But my personal issue here is that I hate absurd levels of generational wealth. People shouldn't be allowed to give their children this much money voluntarily in the first place.

Kids inhereting wealth is possibly the least offensive way to be wealthy.

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ForsakenHermit
07/12/23 1:26:28 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm sure you random message board guy who is outraged over figures in a TMZ article knows more than their family and the courts about what they need and don't need.

Those kids who are in an elite family school who have an established life with their friends? Fuck em. They need to sell their house, move and live and learn with the rest of us! That'll teach those kids who did nothing wrong outside of being born to rich and famous people.

Kids inhereting wealth is possibly the least offensive way to be wealthy.
Kids inheriting wealth ends up creating the old stuffy rich types who are the worst of them all.

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