Current Events > I don't get people wanting the MCU to adapt World War Hulk

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It just wouldn't work with the MCU we have, it would be character assassination for pretty much all parties involved. WWH is not "oh just another Hulk rampage" but a Hulk that is fully in control seeking revenge against heroes who wronged him, and arguably justifiably after what they did to him. MCU doesn't have any characters who would fit in those roles, and without that motivation the story loses everything that makes it special. I'd love to see Hulk at the top of his game taking on MCU heroes, but not if it means reverting him to a mindless beast or mind control again.

Correct. Which is why simply being a fan doesn't mean you're a good creative.

They already touched that story in Thor: Ragnark, they wont return to it.

This is why the comics will always remain the true version of Marvel Universe. You only get the full story in the comics

Also the hulk is lame

It would work as a multiverse story but not on the MCU's primary Earth

At best they could have a Hulk from another Earth end up slipping through to Earth-199999 and start to rampage there because he's not done getting revenge yet

Or a What If? episode

Reminds me of when people tried to argue that Captain America: Civil War not following the comic was to its detriment (mainly, that the airport fight wasn't cluttered to high hell with disposable superheroes/villains). I'm like...did you read Civil War?

Because the MCU just touches on highly regarded stories without doing outright adaptations. We got the Planet Hulk homage in Ragnarok. That's how it's always been.

AlveinFencer posted...

Reminds me of when people tried to argue that Captain America: Civil War not following the comic was to its detriment (mainly, that the airport fight wasn't cluttered to high hell with disposable superheroes/villains). I'm like...did you read Civil War?

Lets see how well the MCU can deal with Tony killing 600 schoolkids >.>

Foppe posted...

They already touched that story in Thor: Ragnark, they wont return to it.

That was Planet Hulk

Cant have WW Hulk without Planet Hulk.

Foppe posted...

Cant have WW Hulk without Planet Hulk.

While yes, they're also considered their own stories, and WWH is a lot more involved than Planet Hulk was

RuneterranSnap posted...

Lets see how well the MCU can deal with Tony killing 600 schoolkids >.>

Ngl, I kinda wish we got to see RDJ justify a black superhero dying by saying "He acted just like a police officer would."
You thought people flipped out over the "girl power" scene in Endgame? Imagine that.

It would just be MCU Hulk getting revenge on every hero that cockblocked him from getting it in with Black Widow

It's mostly because people want a good solo Hulk movie and the only story anyone knows is World War Hulk.

AlveinFencer posted...

Ngl, I kinda wish we got to see RDJ justify a black superhero dying by saying "He acted just like a police officer would."
You thought people flipped out over the "girl power" scene in Endgame? Imagine that.

lol oh god

This also makes me hate Ant-Man even more because they absolutely wasted Fishburn

AlveinFencer posted...

Reminds me of when people tried to argue that Captain America: Civil War not following the comic was to its detriment (mainly, that the airport fight wasn't cluttered to high hell with disposable superheroes/villains). I'm like...did you read Civil War?

We need a Speedball-to-Penance three parter to really get the emotional impact.

please for the love of god do not make a Speedball-to-Penance three pRter

DrizztLink posted...

We need a Speedball-to-Penance three parter to really get the emotional impact.

please for the love of god do not make a Speedball-to-Penance three parter

Oh God that suit was so fucking cringe

RuneterranSnap posted...

It just wouldn't work with the MCU we have, it would be character assassination for pretty much all parties involved. WWH is not "oh just another Hulk rampage" but a Hulk that is fully in control seeking revenge against heroes who wronged him, and arguably justifiably after what they did to him. MCU doesn't have any characters who would fit in those roles, and without that motivation the story loses everything that makes it special. I'd love to see Hulk at the top of his game taking on MCU heroes, but not if it means reverting him to a mindless beast or mind control again.

Seeing as Reed Richards is the one who did it to him in the first place it seems like a great opportunity to get someone to wrong him.

That said... A comic adaptation would be a fucking disaster. They would need to change the "wrong" before they could even think about making a movie.

RuneterranSnap posted...

Oh God that suit was so fucking cringe

That monologue was the stuff of legends, though. I wanna hear whoever played Ben Reiley in Across the Spider-Verse give that speech.

They can just throw him into a multiverse with a villainous version of the Avengers and he can fight them. It doesn't need to be 100% comic accurate

lilORANG posted...

They can just throw him into a multiverse with a villainous version of the Avengers and he can fight them. It doesn't need to be 100% comic accurate

The fighting isn't nearly as interesting or engaging without the emotional context though.

Also have they confirmed yet if we're getting Amadeus Cho soon?

lilORANG posted...

They can just throw him into a multiverse with a villainous version of the Avengers and he can fight them. It doesn't need to be 100% comic accurate

That's not WWH then.

RuneterranSnap posted...

WWH is not "oh just another Hulk rampage" but a Hulk that is fully in control seeking revenge against heroes who wronged him, and arguably justifiably after what they did to him.

Not sure I can agree with that. Yeah it was a dirty trick and kind of fucked up, but I do agree with the Illuminati banishing Hulk. It wasn't right to kill him, but how long is the world just supposed to live with regular Hulk attacks?

Terrible for the MCU, but I'd love an animated version

Tyranthraxus posted...

That's not WWH then.

Just like infinity war didn't follow the infinity saga perfectly >_>

Thud posted...

Not sure I can agree with that. Yeah it was a dirty trick and kind of fucked up, but I do agree with the Illuminati banishing Hulk. It wasn't right to kill him, but how long is the world just supposed to live with regular Hulk attacks?

I mean, a huge part of WWH was people discussing how Hulk gets a bad rap. He saves people all over the place, he never has human casualties among his collateral damage, doesn't really rampage unprovoked, and the heroes in question are hardly better with their own horrible shit behind them.

Thud posted...

Not sure I can agree with that. Yeah it was a dirty trick and kind of fucked up, but I do agree with the Illuminati banishing Hulk. It wasn't right to kill him, but how long is the world just supposed to live with regular Hulk attacks?

Didn't Ghost Rider just fuck off outta there because Hulk was justified?

gmanthebest posted...

Terrible for the MCU, but I'd love an animated version

Yes. Absolutely yes. Planet Hulk, then WWH.

I'd say World War Hulks too but I get the feeling we might be seeing some kind of adaptation of that, much more similar and could be batshit if done right

It should definitely get an adaptation. It's the only comic storyline I've ever actually read start to finish, but it'd make for a great few movies if Hulk wasn't cursed by that shitty 2003 movie and the lackluster MCU movie.

gmanthebest posted...

Didn't Ghost Rider just fuck off outta there because Hulk was justified?

A lot of people did when they found out the reason.

Imagine if they'd done some digging and found out the shit Tony did during Civil War.

Im more concerned on whether or not theyll introduce Maestro.

Nemu posted...

It should definitely get an adaptation. It's the only comic storyline I've ever actually read start to finish, but it'd make for a great few movies if Hulk wasn't cursed by that shitty 2003 movie and the lackluster MCU movie.

I think the Hulk they have would be great for it, but its the lack of real villains for him to be against that hinders it. MCU doesn't do morally gray as much as they should.

Why exactly wouldn't it work? The premise is fairly basic. "Illuminati banishes Hulk, Planet Hulk happens, Hulk takes revenge". We've definitely got pragmatic characters that can put together the Illuminati and, just ike the comics, Hulk is always one bad day away from fucking everything up. It would take some build up at this point. You can't just have the current Professor Hulk decide he's taking off the kiddie gloves, but if they move forward with a few more Hulk movies they can build him back to a savage Hulk. I wouldn't even be mad if they shot him back into space and did a mulligan on Planet Hulk.

specialkid8 posted...

Why exactly wouldn't it work? The premise is fairly basic. "Illuminati banishes Hulk, Planet Hulk happens, Hulk takes revenge". We've definitely got pragmatic characters that can put together the Illuminati and, just ike the comics, Hulk is always one bad day away from fucking everything up. It would take some build up at this point. You can't just have the current Professor Hulk decide he's taking off the kiddie gloves, but if they move forward with a few more Hulk movies they can build him back to a savage Hulk. I wouldn't even be mad if they shot him back into space and did a mulligan on Planet Hulk.

They'd have to basically do it from scratch, MCU right now doesn't have a single hero I'd buy making that choice except maybe Strange. Even MCU Tony I wouldn't buy doing it.

RuneterranSnap posted...

They'd have to basically do it from scratch, MCU right now doesn't have a single hero I'd buy making that choice except maybe Strange. Even MCU Tony I wouldn't buy doing it.

I could see if maybe they had him lose control more, and you have newer members of the Avengers who don't know how to stop him create the Illuminati to basically just Planet Hulk him. I don't know, I'm not a big fancy Hollywood writer

RuneterranSnap posted...

They'd have to basically do it from scratch, MCU right now doesn't have a single hero I'd buy making that choice except maybe Strange. Even MCU Tony I wouldn't buy doing it.

Strange obviously. I could see Carol being at the table. Shuri or even Okoye. Captain Falcon begrudgingly agreeing. And I'm sure the FF and X-Men would be established by then so throw Xavier and Reed in as well. I could even see John Walker being snuck in to force the decision for whatever nefarious plans Elaine has in store.

To do WWH you would have to bring in Sentry.

EbonTitanium posted...

To do WWH you would have to bring in Sentry.

No you don't. Sentry contributed nothing except exhausting Hulk and lots of people can do that.

RuneterranSnap posted...

I mean, a huge part of WWH was people discussing how Hulk gets a bad rap. He saves people all over the place, he never has human casualties among his collateral damage, doesn't really rampage unprovoked, and the heroes in question are hardly better with their own horrible shit behind them.

I absolutely hated that retcon. There is no way Hulk has never inadvertently killed an innocent with the destruction he causes. I know exactly what you're talking about, and Amadeus Cho is full of shit.

gmanthebest posted...

Didn't Ghost Rider just fuck off outta there because Hulk was justified?

Sounds familiar. In fairness, Hulk has never thrown a Buick through GR house or anything so he really didn't have a dog in that fight.

I only want WWH if it keeps the bit where he attacks the X Mansion, Darwin's powers scan the situation to find out the best way to alter him to survive, and settle on teleporting him to another state.

Tyranthraxus posted...

No you don't. Sentry contributed nothing except exhausting Hulk and lots of people can do that.

Well one of the biggest reasons the Hulk-Sentry fight ended in a draw was cause Sentry has that calming aura thing so not entirely true.

DrizztLink posted...

I only want WWH if it keeps the bit where he attacks the X Mansion, Darwin's powers scan the situation to find out the best way to alter him to survive, and settle on teleporting him to another state.

Omg that's right

DrizztLink posted...

I only want WWH if it keeps the bit where he attacks the X Mansion, Darwin's powers scan the situation to find out the best way to alter him to survive, and settle on teleporting him to another state.

You'd think that would be his solution to everything. Why turn into steel or grow laser eyes when you can just not be where the danger is?

The biggest issues with this is that MCU Hulk is no where near as destructive as Classic Savage Hulk is.

It would have no build or well done planing for this to work.

The classic Peter David stuff, or Immortal Hulk is a better option

specialkid8 posted...

You'd think that would be his solution to everything. Why turn into steel or grow laser eyes when you can just not be where the danger is?

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