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Mew
07/05/23 3:24:57 PM
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No anecdotes or secondhand accounts, just facts.

Factors regarding the dog owners household situation, antisocial behaviours, animal views and animal treatment in a population of dogs confiscated after biting humans and/ or other animals - 22 Mar. 2023.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10032511/
In and over both time frames, most dogs were breed classified as a Pitbull type (58%, N = 218; 56%, N = 89 for tf1; 60%, N = 129 for tf2), next as (Belgian/ Dutch/ German) Shepherd type, including Malinois (17%, N = 64; 12%, N = 20; 20%, N = 44), with other dogs typed for instance as Rottweiler, Kangal, Husky, Bernese Mountain Dog.

Surgical Treatment of Pediatric Dog-bite Wounds: A 5-year Retrospective Review - 27 Oct. 2021.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8597704/
Dog breed was a significant predictor of bite severity (P <.0001) and of bite diameter (P <.0001). Pit bull bites were found to be significantly larger, deeper, and/or more complex than the average dog bites included in this study.
Patients included in this study were more than four times as likely to have been bitten by a pit bull than by a German shepherd, and more than twice as likely to have been bitten by a pit bull, when compared with a dog of unknown breed. Furthermore, the relative risk of a pit bull inflicting a complex (full thickness with trauma to underlying structures) or deep (full thickness without trauma to underlying structures) bite was 17 times that observed for non-pit bull dogs.

Analysis of Pediatric Dog Bite Injuries at a Level 1 Trauma Center Over 10 Years.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100808/
Most pediatric dog bite injuries afflicted male children (55.6%), ages 6 to 12 years (45.7%), by a household dog (36.2%). The most common offending breed was a pit bull or pit bull mix (53.0%). Infants and grade schoolers were more likely to sustain bites to the head/face.

The changing epidemiology of dog bite injuries in the United States, 20052018.
https://doi.org/10.1186/s40621-020-00281-y
Table 5 presents the results of an analysis performed on self-reported incidents of dog bites in New York Citys United Health Fund districts for the years 2015 to 2017. Of the breeds identified in the data set (84.6%), pit bulls were the most numerous (33.6%), followed in order by Shih Tzu (5.3%), Chihuahua (5.2%), German Shepherd (4.1%), and Yorkshire Terrier (3.1%). This finding is consistent with previous research showing that pit bulls are responsible for more bites than any other dog breed.

Facial dog bites treated at the Massachusetts General Hospital over a 20-year period.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.oooo.2020.02.009
This is a retrospective analysis of facial dog bites treated at the Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) from 1997 to 2018.
Bites were preceded by the following behaviors: playing with the dog, feeding the dog, and placing the face close to the dog. Pit bulls led in the number of bites.

Dog-Bite Injuries to the Craniofacial Region: An Epidemiologic and Pattern-of-Injury Review at a Level 1 Trauma Center.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.joms.2019.11.002
The data showed that compared with other dog breeds, pit bull terriers inflicted more complex wounds, were often unprovoked, and went off property to attack.
This study showed a disturbing trend toward more severe dog-bite injuries in young children

Epidemiology, Socioeconomic Analysis, and Specialist Involvement in Dog Bite Wounds in Adults.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30845083/
Of the 189 patients, 33 adults (17.5%) were forwarded to a surgical subspecialist for repair. A head and neck injury was significantly more likely to be repaired by a surgical specialist (P = 0.011). The most common breed of dog identified was pit bull (n = 29, 47.5%). The majority of pit bull attacks involved the extremities (65.5%) compared to other breeds of dogs.

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Mew
07/05/23 3:25:23 PM
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Are Dog Bites a Problem of Nature or Nurture? Tang J, Arneja JS. Plastic Surgery (Oakv)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6236509/
Pit bull attacks have been found to also account for higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than attacks from other dog breeds in addition to a higher proportion of fatal injuries reported in the United States.

Dogs and Orthopaedic Injuries: Is There a Correlation With Breed?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29912736/
Of the 95 patients, 50% were the result of a pit bull terrier bite and 22% by a law enforcement dog. A total of 32% were attacked by multiple dogs. There was a 51% incidence of severe injury (amputation or fracture) with a significant association with breed. Pit bull terrier bites were responsible for a significantly higher number of orthopaedic injuries and resulted in an amputation and/or bony injury in 66% of patients treated, whereas bites from law enforcement dogs and other breeds were less associated with severe injuries.

Pit Bull attack causing limb threatening vascular trauma - A case series
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29245098/
Attacks by Pit Bull Terriers are more likely to cause severe morbidity than other breeds of dogs. Immediate surgical exploration is required to prevent catastrophic outcomes, especially limb loss.

An Algorithmic Approach to Operative Management of Complex Pediatric Dog Bites
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29184724/
Their experience highlights some important characteristics of complex dog bites in children, including the finding that pit bulls are the breed most commonly involved, particularly in more severe injuries. Information on the breed of the biting dog was available in 56 cases. Pit bulls were the most common breed, accounting for 48 percent of injuries. Surgery was required in about half of injuries caused by pit bulls, three times higher than the rate for other breeds. Of the nine children who required extended hospitalization, six were bitten by pit bulls.
"The penetrating and crushing nature of these bites can lead to lifelong deformities," Dr. Alizadeh said.

Mortality, mauling, and maiming by vicious dogs.
https://doi.org/10.1097/sla.0b013e318211cd68
We reviewed the medical records of patients admitted to our level I trauma center with dog bites during a 15-year period.
Compared with attacks by other breeds of dogs, attacks by pit bulls were associated with a higher median Injury Severity Scale score (4 vs. 1; P = 0.002), a higher risk of an admission Glasgow Coma Scale score of 8 or lower (17.2% vs. 0%; P = 0.006), higher median hospital charges ($10,500 vs. $7200; P = 0.003), and a higher risk of death (10.3% vs. 0%; P = 0.041).
Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites.

Pediatric dog bite injuries: a 5-year review of the experience at the Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia
https://doi.org/10.1097/prs.0b013e3181addad9
Five hundred fifty-one patients aged 5 months to 18 years were treated in the emergency department after suffering dog bite injuries during the study period.
The most common breeds included pit bull terriers (50.9 percent), Rottweilers (8.9 percent), and mixed breeds of the two aforementioned breeds (6 percent).


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KitKats
07/05/23 3:26:21 PM
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I like small dogs

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/05/23 3:28:53 PM
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Time for another round of pitbull simp apologetics bingo.

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ai123
07/05/23 3:40:49 PM
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These studies with their references and their statistics cannot hope to win against a picture of a pitbull not eating a toddler and some random's assertion that all the pitbulls they have met are 'sweet'.

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SHRlKE
07/05/23 3:41:58 PM
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Didnt the last topic devolve in someone claiming being against pitbulls was racist?

I think they are dangerous and should be restricted if not outlawed but I sure as hell arent racist.

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07/05/23 3:56:45 PM
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PokemonExpert44
07/05/23 3:57:21 PM
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Pitbulls ftw

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/05/23 3:59:19 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Didnt the last topic devolve in someone claiming being against pitbulls was racist?
Always does

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/05/23 4:00:27 PM
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ai123 posted...
These studies with their references and their statistics cannot hope to win against a picture of a pitbull not eating a toddler and some random's assertion that all the pitbulls they have met are 'sweet'.

"They don't know how to read the stats and these 'reported' pitbulls haven't been genetically screened, sure they have the same exactly physical phenotypes but dogs cute you racist!!!!" ~ derp

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LordMarshal
07/05/23 4:01:36 PM
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Calling people that dont like pit bulls racist is just the biggest reach......

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PurpleTurtle
07/05/23 4:03:52 PM
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eggcorn
07/05/23 4:05:04 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Always does


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I4NRulez
07/05/23 4:06:04 PM
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Dont you guys get tired of these topics lol.

You guys that hate them wont convince anyone who loves them to hate them and vice versa. Its two sides just yelling at the air.

Its the same people saying the same things, posting the same memes, and just arguing back and forth over it all.

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voldothegr8
07/05/23 4:06:12 PM
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Those stats are all made up and the media only reports on pit bull attacks, no other breeds. It's a deep anti-pit bull conspiracy.

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HairyQueen
07/05/23 4:08:09 PM
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PokemonExpert44 posted...
Pitbulls ftw
Pit bulls feast on the weak?

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Murphiroth
07/05/23 4:09:41 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Dont you guys get tired of these topics lol.

You guys that hate them wont convince anyone who loves them to hate them and vice versa. Its two sides just yelling at the air.

Its the same people saying the same things, posting the same memes, and just arguing back and forth over it all.

This.

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SaikyoStyle
07/05/23 4:11:10 PM
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The truth about pitbulls is they are cute bebes
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/6/AABM4yAAEoaQ.jpg

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LordMarshal
07/05/23 4:11:58 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
The truth about pitbulls is they are cute bebes
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/6/AABM4yAAEoaQ.jpg

Like most babies of anything are cute. Thats so irrelevant.

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SaikyoStyle
07/05/23 4:12:18 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
Like most babies of anything are cute. Thats so irrelevant.
Is not

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eggcorn
07/05/23 4:12:23 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Dont you guys get tired of these topics lol.

You guys that hate them wont convince anyone who loves them to hate them and vice versa. Its two sides just yelling at the air.

Its the same people saying the same things, posting the same memes, and just arguing back and forth over it all.
That's literally every topic on ce.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/05/23 4:12:55 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
The truth about pitbulls is they are cute bebes
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/6/AABM4yAAEoaQ.jpg

Cheetah cubs are fucking adorable but let's not pretend trying to introduce them into public spaces wouldn't end badly.

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I4NRulez
07/05/23 4:13:39 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Cheetah cubs are fucking adorable but let's not pretend trying to introduce them into public spaces wouldn't end badly.

cheetahs were domesticated animals at one point. They just stopped because it was too hard to breed them. They also arent great hunters. If any big cat would make a great pet it would be cheetahs.

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SaikyoStyle
07/05/23 4:14:16 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Cheetah cubs are fucking adorable but let's not pretend trying to introduce them into public spaces wouldn't end badly.
Thats dishonest even by alt-right standards.

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Samurai_Man
07/05/23 4:14:19 PM
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I love pitbulls, some of the most loyal nicest dogs I've ever owned were pittbulls, german shepards, and rotties.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/05/23 4:14:37 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
cheetahs were domesticated animals at one point. They just stopped because it was too hard to breed them.

Tamed =/= domesticated.

Bleeding easily is actually a prerequisite to domestication.

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ai123
07/05/23 4:16:15 PM
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Look at this adorable baby great white being petted by its owner.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/0/AAdkcxAAEoaU.jpg

It's how you raise them.

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LordMarshal
07/05/23 4:16:27 PM
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The points are irrelevant to how strong they are. They generally dont attack you but when they do its fatal.

Yup Chihuahuas are more aggressive with like none of the lethality. All these irrelevant points that keep being brought up.


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TMOG
07/05/23 4:17:55 PM
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*sees TC*
*sees the words "real truth" in topic title*

Ah, so every last one of those links is going to be bullshit, that's a time saver
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ablegator
07/05/23 4:19:02 PM
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Great whites were considered nanny sharks in the nineteenth century.

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LordMarshal
07/05/23 4:19:14 PM
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TMOG posted...
*sees TC*
*sees the words "real truth" in topic title*

Ah, so every last one of those links is going to be bullshit, that's a time saver

Pit Bullshit

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NatsuSama
07/05/23 4:20:10 PM
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PurpleTurtle posted...
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TMOG
07/05/23 4:22:33 PM
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Pikachuchupika
07/05/23 4:23:09 PM
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ai123 posted...
Look at this adorable baby great white being petted by its owner.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/0/AAdkcxAAEoaU.jpg

It's how you raise them.

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Samurai_Man
07/05/23 4:29:48 PM
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Gotta keep track of TC!

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VFalcone
07/05/23 4:29:51 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Dont you guys get tired of these topics lol.

You guys that hate them wont convince anyone who loves them to hate them and vice versa. Its two sides just yelling at the air.

Its the same people saying the same things, posting the same memes, and just arguing back and forth over it all.
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ablegator
07/05/23 4:44:51 PM
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VFalcone posted...
Hatred and outrage news are powerful.
Powerful like the jaws of a pit bull.

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Mew
07/05/23 10:05:46 PM
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TMOG posted...
*sees TC*
*sees the words "real truth" in topic title*

Ah, so every last one of those links is going to be bullshit, that's a time saver
Calling peer reviewed medical journals and studies 'bullshit', lmao. They should add this to the bingo card

ai123 posted...
Look at this adorable baby great white being petted by its owner.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/0/AAdkcxAAEoaU.jpg

It's how you raise them.

Aww look its smiling!

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SHRlKE
07/06/23 7:16:35 AM
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TMOG posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyhspCgMbOo

Awwww, I hate seeing any animal in distress regardless of the baggage they might come with. Glad that dog got a decent home. It's not the dogs fault for having shitty owners. I also completely agree that pitbulls and any pets with increased chance of violence should be controlled and more thought put into their suitability for being in a family home.

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07/06/23 7:28:35 AM
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Sheiky-Baby
07/06/23 7:29:17 AM
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They're war/combat dogs. Should never be house pets.

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Avirosb
07/06/23 7:31:36 AM
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Sheiky-Baby posted...
They're war/combat dogs. Should never be house pets.
But, suppose I was cornered by 30-50 feral hogs

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Sheiky-Baby
07/06/23 7:35:19 AM
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Avirosb posted...
But, suppose I was cornered by 30-50 feral hogs
That's when the banana comes in handy. Riper the better.

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Solid_Sonic
07/06/23 7:37:07 AM
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Couldn't find a story to post so you had to get your kicks by posting statistics instead?

Here, this just happened: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/06/dog-attack-north-port-florida-boy/70386342007/

The North Port Police Department responded after the boy was bit around 10:30 a.m. by a 3-year-old Pitbull mix. Officials said the child passed away from extensive traumatic injuries in the upper torso region.

It's not that hard.

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IceCreamOnStero
07/06/23 7:40:14 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
Dont you guys get tired of these topics lol.

You guys that hate them wont convince anyone who loves them to hate them and vice versa. Its two sides just yelling at the air.

Its the same people saying the same things, posting the same memes, and just arguing back and forth over it all.
I'm tired of pitbulls mauling kids

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TMOG
07/06/23 8:06:48 AM
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SuperSaiyanTien
07/06/23 8:10:56 AM
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They should be banned and not able to be owned by "normies" I.E. those not professionally trained to handle the dog or those who'd want to own the dog and not use it for work (honestly same with Huskies) + a pit bull owner should be required to fix their dog to prevent backyard breeding, but that's not going to happen.

A simple solution? Make it a federal law that if your dog attacks someone you receive an equivalent punishment I.E. if your dog mauls someone, you could see serious jail time and if your dog kills someone, you could get life in prison or be sentenced to death.

I guarantee all these pibble lovers who spout how the statistics are wrong and pit bulls are safe will either quickly change their tune or be weeded out eventually. Either way, a win.

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SHRlKE
07/06/23 9:07:54 AM
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SuperSaiyanTien posted...
They should be banned and not able to be owned by "normies" I.E. those not professionally trained to handle the dog or those who'd want to own the dog and not use it for work (honestly same with Huskies) + a pit bull owner should be required to fix their dog to prevent backyard breeding, but that's not going to happen.

A simple solution? Make it a federal law that if your dog attacks someone you receive an equivalent punishment I.E. if your dog mauls someone, you could see serious jail time and if your dog kills someone, you could get life in prison or be sentenced to death.

I guarantee all these pibble lovers who spout how the statistics are wrong and pit bulls are safe will either quickly change their tune or be weeded out eventually. Either way, a win.

Agree. They should do that with guns as well.

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Solid_Sonic
07/06/23 9:08:59 AM
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SHRlKE posted...
Agree. They should do that with guns as well.

Guns require someone to pull the trigger. A dog becoming hostile doesn't necessarily require anything but proximity.

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