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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 9:53:54 AM
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then they should be okay with the banning of porn, sexual services, and sexual content in film/media



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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:26:26 PM
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Why do we high five each other when sexual content gets removed from videogames but we grab our pitchforks when we can no longer access porn ?

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Irony
07/04/23 3:26:59 PM
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You're just high-fiving yourself bro

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:28:03 PM
#4:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Why do we high five each other when sexual content gets removed from videogames but we grab our pitchforks when we can no longer access porn ?
We don't.

Don't generalize. Or be a dramaqueen.
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EmilyTheCEman
07/04/23 3:29:31 PM
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Im okay with both things being censoredor neither. Id be fine either way.

I think youre imagining these people.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:29:42 PM
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You sound like the type of person that would see 4 individuals in group of 10000 do something bad, and start emotioning all over the place about how the whole group is rotton, or something.

Not chill bro. Calm down.
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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:31:44 PM
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EmilyTheCEman posted...
Im okay with both things being censoredor neither. Id be fine either way.

I think youre imagining these people.
Fore sure.

And for the record. I'd personally prefer no censorship.

Just like being gay, if you don't like it, are not gay, just don't partake. Simple. "Live and let live."
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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:33:41 PM
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now all of the sudden CE acts like they are bothered by videogame censorship when porn starts getting banned. Being bothered by Samus getting a reduction isn't a meme. This is what happens when we give in to censorship regardless how minor. Now they have gained the ability to censor porn. What do they think they'll be able to censor next? our purchases? the way we dress?

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Turbam
07/04/23 3:34:29 PM
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Simmer down, kid

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:34:56 PM
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Oh... so you're here to be a dramaqueen/troll, and not here here for honest debate. Got it.

Continue crying all over the place.
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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:36:46 PM
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hentai/porn games removed from Steam now. Any videogames with nudity will be censored. God Of War patch update, no nudity.

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Foppe
07/04/23 3:37:10 PM
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I mean, you have allowed movies to be censored far longer than any of us have existed, so why bring it up like it is something new?

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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:37:49 PM
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Banning people from accessing porn, and a developer choosing to make someone's boobs a little smaller or give them pants is not the same thing.

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meralonne
07/04/23 3:38:52 PM
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Turbam posted...
Simmer down, kid


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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:39:49 PM
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you guys have definitely noticed less nudity in recent film and television. Look at HBO, Showtime, and Netflix. Even when there's nudity it's more brief and less glamorous.

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NatsuSama
07/04/23 3:40:07 PM
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Take a stroll over to the Sony boards TC. Plenty there will whine a game is woke if the woman doesn't have massive jiggle physics tits.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:40:33 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Banning people from accessing porn, and a developer choosing to make someone's boobs a little smaller or give them pants is not the same thing.
Ignoring that TC is a troll. As in he has no interest in addressing counter points, just here to push his dramaqueen nonsense.

Ignoring that, censorship in games does not only come in "self" censorship flavor. Which is not a bad thing imo. Because one themselves have chose to do it. Else it's some censoring of self censoring thing.

I'm all for creative freedom.
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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:41:24 PM
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Getting mad that you can't find something to masturbate to every time you turn on your video games is beyond sad. People make certain... art, you know. You don't even need to waste the money on games if you're just looking to fap to the women in them.

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Cobra1010
07/04/23 3:41:59 PM
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Movies are already censored. Only the 18+ have nudity. Its just that producers don't want to make their movies 18+ anymore.

Even violence and gore, look at the transition from terminator 1 and 2 to 3.

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ScazarMeltex
07/04/23 3:42:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Banning people from accessing porn, and a developer choosing to make someone's boobs a little smaller or give them pants is not the same thing.
Well....they are if you are very fucking stupid.

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Ivynn
07/04/23 3:43:07 PM
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Did a loli in an anime titty game get censored and make you mad, TC?

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myusernameislame
07/04/23 3:43:24 PM
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Yeah how dare we let people stomp all over artistic freedom and the free market! We should pass laws to be enforced by governments banning companies from redrawing characters to be less sexualized in order to protect them from being told what to do with their own intellectual property by outside forces.

(it's sad that it's impossible to write something over-the-top enough to not need this </s> disclaimer)
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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:43:36 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Its just that producers don't want to make their movies 18+ anymore.
I mean, it's their choice. Can't be against censorship on one hand, and forcing them to do something to your standards on the other. Doesn't logically square.
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PraetorXyn
07/04/23 3:44:38 PM
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Censorship is always stupid no matter the form.

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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:44:51 PM
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Your count points have been

"violence = good
nudity = bad

one is natural, the other is not"

You think censorship of porn isn't going to happen to you, but it will. It's been happening slowly for the past 10 years and now we're starting realize how bad it's going to get. yes artists should be tasteful when they want to produce sexual content, but that doesn't mean everything should be sterilized for the sake of..... sake of....

*coughs heavily*

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Cheater87
07/04/23 3:45:17 PM
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Games are mostly censored on Sony platforms these days.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:47:05 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Censorship is always stupid no matter the form.
Nope. Cannot name the innate objective "wrong/stupidity" when it's a self choice thing, in a world where peeps can change their minds, and peeps have different tastes.
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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:47:45 PM
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EthanSilver posted...
Ignoring that TC is a troll. As in he has no interest in addressing counter points, just here to push his dramaqueen nonsense.

Ignoring that, censorship in games does not only come in "self" censorship flavor. Which is not a bad thing imo. Because one themselves have chose to do it. Else it's some censoring of self censoring thing.

I'm all for creative freedom.
"Self-censorship" is an idiotic concept. It implies the only reason someone doesn't put heavy violence or sexual content in their media is because they want to make a poltical statement, or fear retribution or something.

As if everything would be torture porn and hentai if all things were even

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AmericaTheBrave
07/04/23 3:48:00 PM
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Respect women.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:48:04 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Your count points have been
Yeah, if you're a lying troll.
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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:48:07 PM
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Why do people still think the Skullgirls censorship was a self-choice thing? and even if it was, they felt pressured to do it due to recent trends and Evo.

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NatsuSama
07/04/23 3:48:10 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Censorship is always stupid no matter the form.
So curious, would you be for example be cool with content that sexualizes children?

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:49:20 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Self-censorship" is an idiotic concept. It implies the only reason someone doesn't put heavy violence or sexual content in their media is because they want to make a poltical statement, or fear retribution or something.
Yeah, when one is lazy and corners themselves in a false dichotomy. "Either A or B."

This might come off as a shock, but peeps can change their minds about things. Fucking out of this world I know.
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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:50:44 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Why do people still think the Skullgirls censorship was a self-choice thing?
I was personally talking about the concept on a general level. When it's a "self choice."

I didn't follow this "Skullgirls" thing...

Beveren_Rabbit posted...
they felt pressured
This is a type I would not be cool with, personally.
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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:51:05 PM
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Why does the term fan service suggest that the only thing the fans want from their favorite media is sex and nudity?

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myusernameislame
07/04/23 3:51:27 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Why do people still think the Skullgirls censorship was a self-choice thing? and even if it was, they felt pressured to do it due to recent trends and Evo.

You mean a company that's driven to try to maximize profits might have felt pressured by the market? No fucking way. Welcome to virtually every other time a company makes a decision about anything. Stop beating around the bush and explain exactly what you would like to actually happen in practice and how you would make it actually come true.
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PraetorXyn
07/04/23 3:51:56 PM
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EthanSilver posted...
Nope. Cannot name the innate objective "wrong/stupidity" when it's a self choice thing, in a world where peeps can change their minds, and peeps have different tastes.
If its the original author, theres no pressure involved, and the work has yet to be released, its not censorship, its just changing ones mind. If the work has been released already and its changed, then it depends on the change done and the reason thereof as to what it is.

But look at what publishers are doing to classic books. The authors are long dead, and theyre censoring work by Kipling etc in the shortsighted hope that if they put out a version altered for modern sensibilities they might get a movie or TV adaptation out of it.

I dont think U need to point out why conservative censorship is stupid.

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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:52:38 PM
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NatsuSama posted...
So curious, would you be for example be cool with content that sexualizes children?
And would someone who chose to not put such content in their game be "censoring" themselves?

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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 3:52:45 PM
#39:


the people that demand this type of censorship don't even purchase the anyway or consume that type of media anyway so it's always a loss.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:55:02 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
If its the original author and theres no pressure involved, its not censorship, its just changing ones mind.
Well, I can see the confusion.

Sometimes an honest "change of heart" comes from outside "preasure."

So even then, it depends. Like what if, hypothetically, it was some Nazi praising artist? But because of outside "pressure" and expanding of horizons, if you will, he legit had an honest change of heart? There is no innate objective "wrong," in that. I don't think.
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Lobinde
07/04/23 3:56:09 PM
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The people "censoring" videogames aren't the same people banning/restricting access to pornography. I'm not sure what kind of equivalence you're trying to make TC, but it's a bad one.
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EthanSilver
07/04/23 3:56:48 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
the people that demand this type of censorship don't even purchase the anyway or consume that type of media anyway so it's always a loss.
I actually agree with this.

I think they are just into it themselves, and lash out as a form of denial.

Sort of like the guy that shot gay people, and was found out to be into gay porn. Obviously hyperbole, but the point is repression is no bueno.

Peeps get too hang-up on sex imo. Calm down, it's natural.
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myusernameislame
07/04/23 3:57:17 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
the people that demand this type of censorship don't even purchase the anyway or consume that type of media anyway so it's always a loss.

Well if just by virtue of being you, you inherently know more than all the corporations with pretty much limitless market research resources, why aren't you a billionaire CEO?
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hockeybub89
07/04/23 3:59:26 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
the people that demand this type of censorship don't even purchase the anyway or consume that type of media anyway so it's always a loss.
You're right. Literally 0 people who think a video game character is overtly sexualized ever play the franchise in question. Literally none of them. Just like how pretty much all female gamers are just casual Candy Crush players.

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EthanSilver
07/04/23 4:02:24 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Literally 0 people
Tbf, for me, I was on a general sense. Of course there could be exceptions.

More figuratively, than literally. Is how I took his post.
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Beveren_Rabbit
07/04/23 4:03:17 PM
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I want this game censored even though I won't buy it once its censored. I want comic books to be more diverse even though I won't buy them on release. I want a scale figure of Myne from Ascendance Of A Bookworm but I won't put in any pre-orders on Amiami. Oh hey, Myne is getting a Pop Up Parade figure that's actually affordable. No I won't buy it.

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PraetorXyn
07/04/23 4:06:04 PM
#47:


NatsuSama posted...
So curious, would you be for example be cool with content that sexualizes children?
Do I think artists should be allowed to have lolis, call them thousand year old dragon gods, and sexualize them? Yes. Am I turned on by that? No. If its animated or rendered graphical depictions of actual children, its not cool, but Im not an authoritarian, so it depends on what the law says.

But the point is, if the Japanese version shows some side butt or something and the US version covers it like Americans are so Puritanical theyd boycott or something, thats always dumb.

If a publisher decides a 100 year old book needs its language cleaned up like people dont have the mental capacity to understand the world was different back then especially when they dont put the fact theyve done it on the cover, Im the description, etc., as if to hide theyve done it its always dumb.

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myusernameislame
07/04/23 4:07:21 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
I want this game censored even though I won't buy it once its censored. I want comic books to be more diverse even though I won't buy them on release. I want a scale figure of Myne from Ascendance Of A Bookworm but I won't put in any pre-orders on Amiami. Oh hey, Myne is getting a Pop Up Parade figure that's actually affordable. No I won't buy it.

Continuing to post basically the same thing doesn't make it get more true.
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Makeveli_lives
07/04/23 4:08:41 PM
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Id rather women in games be interesting than sexy. Not to say they cant be both, but the idea that making her less sexy in turn makes her less interesting says more about you then anything.

so to answer your question, censorship does nothing for me and neither does Dan service, but the outrage from certain people is very telling of who they are as a person and I dont like it.

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PraetorXyn
07/04/23 4:08:49 PM
#50:


EthanSilver posted...
Well, I can see the confusion.

Sometimes an honest "change of heart" comes from outside "preasure."

So even then, it depends. Like what if, hypothetically, it was some Nazi praising artist? But because of outside "pressure" and expanding of horizons, if you will, he legit had an honest change of heart? There is no innate objective "wrong," in that. I don't think.
Id be more accepting of that if it occurred early in the process. But if the thing was basically done, then he spent a ton of time going back and changing it into something it wasnt, thats dumb, but deciding not to release it wouldnt be.

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