Current Events > So, WTF was Biden exactly supposed to do about this?

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I cant believe (actually I can) these people genuinely exist.

https://twitter.com/zukosmadre/status/1674818861537935362

What happened?

He could do a lot more to stop all this greedy inflation

look at how much chicken costs!

Turbam posted...

What happened?

Probably in response to student loans.

I remember some "leftists" blaming biden and Hillary when roe was overturned as well.

all of what, exactly

Yeah maybe if I voted Republican, they'd do a better job stopping the Republicans from trying to ruin my life.

Silly me for not seeing the obvious

hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah maybe if I voted Republican, they'd do a better job stopping the Republicans from trying to ruin my life.

Silly me for not seeing the obvious

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

DarthAragorn posted...

all of what, exactly

*looks upward and raises hands to gesture around*

"This"

Context please?

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

Oh wait you're serious->Laugh harder

Obama should had had a justice in there, GOP did all they could to block him, then the Dems fail to let Trump pack the court, so, thanks Obama and Ruth.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

Did you know when the Republicans got power they put in three Republicans in the Supreme Court and a whole lot more in every other court?

Block_that_Kick posted...

So, WTF was Biden exactly supposed to do about this?

He should put Mitch McConnel and the newest Republicans on the Supreme Court in jail for treason.

It's the tried and tested conservative strategy.

Fuck over their country and put their cronies in positions of power
Get record ever low support
Get voted out
Cronies in power push through terrible things they want
The opposition, now in power, cant do enough to turn things around
Blame the new government for not fixing it
Get into power under premise of 'only we can fix it'
Get voted in
Immediately make things worse

Rinse and repeat.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

what are they supposed to do when republicans have control of congress and the supreme court? everything the Dems try to do gets shut down now while Republicans waste tons of taxpayer money on stupid investigations

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/4/AADgb_AAElCS.jpg

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

People like you are the reason roe got overturned.

Don't blame us.

SC decisions have nothing to do with Biden.

There is plenty to blame him for historically (ex. he did vote to ban students from discharging college loans through bankruptcy) but this is stupid.

Masked-One posted...

SC decisions have nothing to do with Biden.

There is plenty to blame him for historically (ex. he did vote to ban students from discharging college loans through bankruptcy) but this is stupid.

Its his fault for not sending his death squad to force them to rule the way he wants! In fact, we should just abolish the Supreme Court. Ideally, we just just have a system where one person makes all the decisions. What was that called again?
/s

If DeSantis gets elected, you think he will go after cancelling student debt?

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

So should I vote for Republicans in protest or...

What can I do as an individual besides continue to complain about Democrats while voting for them as the lesser evil?

He needs to ban the upside app!

"ugh this administration sucks so I'm gonna help the... Ones that fucking sued to stop this!!"

ButteryMales posted...

Did you know when the Republicans got power they put in three Republicans in the Supreme Court and a whole lot more in every other court?

Did you know that republicans got into power because democrats ran a garbage candidate that was so terrible that she lost against even trump? Then instead of reflecting on their idiocy, they doubled down by bashing voters and mocking them with stupid memes (you know, like your username).

thronedfire2 posted...

what are they supposed to do when republicans have control of congress and the supreme court? everything the Dems try to do gets shut down now while Republicans waste tons of taxpayer money on stupid investigations

What they *were* supposed to do was run a candidate that wasn't so garbage that they'd actually lose to trump the clown. Now it's harder, but they could always grow a spine and take bolder actions like ignoring the supreme court, but apparently only republicans are allowed to be bold (like refusing to confirm supreme court picks while democrats say "aw shucks").

Shadow_Don posted...

People like you are the reason roe got overturned.

Don't blame us.

Really? Was it when I begrudgingly voted for hillary after democrats forced her through?

hockeybub89 posted...

So should I vote for Republicans in protest or...

What can I do as an individual besides continue to complain about Democrats while voting for them as the lesser evil?

The latter. Criticize them while voting for them. Don't wash away their responsibilities by excusing them with "at least they're not the republicans".

Kaldrenthebold posted...

"ugh this administration sucks so I'm gonna help the... Ones that fucking sued to stop this!!"

Nobody said this.

1337toothbrush posted...

Did you know that republicans got into power because democrats ran a garbage candidate that was so terrible that she lost against even trump?

You don't answer questions with questions.
1337toothbrush posted...

Nobody said this.

The tweet and you said this.
1337toothbrush posted...

let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable

Which means "hold the Democrats accountable" since you were being sarcastic. I voted for Bernie but at some point you have to admit you lost and do the greater good. Bernie already endorsed Biden.

ButteryMales posted...

You don't answer questions with questions.

You don't tell me what to do. It's not my problem you don't see the very obvious meaning behind my question which also acts as an answer to your question.

ButteryMales posted...

The tweet and you said this.

When did I say this?

ButteryMales posted...

Which means "hold the Democrats accountable" since you were being sarcastic. I voted for Bernie but at some point you have to admit you lost and do the greater good. Bernie already endorsed Biden.

Okay, and? I voted for hillary after she had the full force force of the "democratic" party pushing her stupid ass into the nomination. The only way we can hold democrats accountable is to criticize them, but then people like you rush in to dismiss any and all criticism.

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Which doesn't matter since she didn't become president.

hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah maybe if I voted Republican, they'd do a better job stopping the Republicans from trying to ruin my life.

Silly me for not seeing the obvious

Well you see, there are still people deluded enough to think they have more than two choices

Shadow_Don posted...

Probably in response to student loans.

I remember some "leftists" blaming biden and Hillary when roe was overturned as well.

Problem is some of them are truly leftist that legitimately do not like GOP policies but also fall for the Kool-aid that Dems are the same. Places like Rose Twitter comes to mind, and those who stayed home 2016, but genuinely confused why Dems didn't perform a miracle to save Roe v Wade.

My main point is there needs to be a more outreach to educate people on WHY legislation does not pass, and HOW legislation actually passes. Because some legitimately think their participation trophy of sometimes voting is enough. They vote once or twice and think just because they voted or that Dems have a 1 or 2 seat majority, that it magically changes how many seated members in Congress are needed to actually support legislation and what number ACTUALLY tends to legally obstruct.

NatsuSama posted...

My main point is there needs to be a more outreach to educate people on WHY legislation does not pass, and HOW legislation actually passes. Because some legitimately think their participation trophy of sometimes voting is enough. They vote once or twice and think just because they voted or that Dems have a 1 or 2 seat majority, that it magically changes how many seated members in Congress are needed to actually support legislation and what number ACTUALLY tends to legally obstruct.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/5/AAcJoVAAEFTh.png

The average American is so clueless about their own system it's scary. No wonder conspiracy theories are so rampant.

At this point, I see no way for the Republicans' active and long-planned sabotage of our fragile democratic republic to be stopped by non-violent means. They're just too entrenched now, and the party apparatus itself has become violent extremists who openly committed an act of terror against the US government that has effectively gone unpunished, despite its failure to install Trump as dictator-for-life.

The only way I could see Biden (or any hypothetical future Democratic administration, assuming we ever get any of those again) managing to possibly succeed at stopping the GOP's final push toward turning the US completely into a fascistic dystopia is if he openly declared the Republican Party as being the terrorist organization behind the attempted violent coup on January 6th, 2021 and an active threat to the United States as a whole (and he wouldn't be wrong), and that it would now be official government policy to treat both the GOP itself and all of its members (whether elected, appointed, or merely supporters) as such. And even then, I don't have much hope that it would work, considering how much of law enforcement and military openly backs the GOP and would no doubt defect to them, and how the dumbass centrists would no doubt immediately believe the GOP's bull about Biden being a "tyrant" rather than finally open their eyes to how the GOP openly want the US to be a tyrannical state.

Perspective can be something huh.

Whoever Suki is her mom is dumb

VampireCoyote posted...

He could do a lot more to stop all this greedy inflation

look at how much chicken costs!

Isn't it still just 5 bucks for a rotisserie at all costcos?

I think what people see is a seeming lack of urgency towards the structural issues that elected Democrats spend a lot of time decrying. When given power, they'll point to the Supreme Court or filibuster as reasons they can't wield it, but has there been a push from party leadership to make public issues out of those? Does anybody believe Joe Biden even wants to get rid of the filibuster, or alter the number of Supreme Court justices, much less get into a fight over them?

Judicial blue slips are a very good example. We've all seen the importance of the judicial branch, but Democratic senators are abiding by a practice that allows Republicans to veto judges from their own states - despite the GOP not returning that favor under Trump:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/senate-judicial-nominations-blue-slips-durbin/index.html

If Durbin allows Republicans to block Biden from filling trial judge nominees in their home state, it really is going to hamper president Bidens ability to leave a mark on the judiciary, said Chris Kang, an alum of the Obama White House Counsels Office who is now chief counsel of Demand Justice, which advocates for Democrats to take a more aggressive approach to the judicial confirmation process.
Of the 38 district court vacancies that dont currently have nominees, more than two dozen are in red or purple states where Republican senators have veto power via the blue slip over whom Biden chooses. A large swath of those openings are in the South, where some of the most consequential decisions on voting rights, immigration, and other contentious policies are handed down.

You start to see a pattern where Democrats are apparently more concerned with the upholding of Senate decorum or abstract rules invented by slaveowners than policy outcomes.

brestugo posted...

The average American is so clueless about their own system it's scary. No wonder conspiracy theories are so rampant.

The system is designed to be that way because politics is meant for the rich who have the freedom to not have to spend 8+ hours a day working. Apparently Americans have to be political experts, but politicians don't have to know shit about the things they pass laws on (just look at tech, for example).

Intro2Logic posted...

You start to see a pattern where Democrats are apparently more concerned with the upholding of Senate decorum or abstract rules invented by slaveowners than policy outcomes.

100% this. Then you get people rushing in saying "b-b-b-but their hands are tied!!" to excuse them, meanwhile republicans can create the fourth reich even without a majority.

1337toothbrush posted...

Which doesn't matter since she didn't become president.

Because of the horseshit electoral college.

Cemith posted...

Because of the horseshit electoral college.

The entire political system is bullshit and designed that way, but it's good that you can identify one part at least.

Cemith posted...

Because of the horseshit electoral college.

I agree that the electoral college is bullshit, the work of people who really did not know what they were doing. But also the Clinton campaign spent resources in the final days trying to ramp up the popular vote margins in New Olreans in Chicago.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michigan-hillary-clinton-trump-232547

But there also were millions approved for transfer from Clintons campaign for use by the DNC which, under a plan devised by Brazile to drum up urban turnout out of fear that Trump would win the popular vote while losing the electoral vote, got dumped into Chicago and New Orleans, far from anywhere that would have made a difference in the election.

There are real ways in which the choices made by Democratic officials and those around them matter, and blaming voters for criticizing those choices isn't a useful means of getting them on board.

Priere posted...

If DeSantis gets elected, you think he will go after cancelling student debt?

You know he wouldn't. Under him there wouldn't even be a department of education. He would be the worst thing for the country.

Funkydog posted...

It's the tried and tested conservative strategy.

Fuck over their country and put their cronies in positions of power
Get record ever low support
Get voted out
Cronies in power push through terrible things they want
The opposition, now in power, cant do enough to turn things around
Blame the new government for not fixing it
Get into power under premise of 'only we can fix it'
Get voted in
Immediately make things worse

Rinse and repeat.

And voters keep falling for it.

See: Suki

Turbam posted...

What happened?

Obamagate 2: Obamalations

1337toothbrush posted...

Yeah, let's not hold the only alternative to republicans accountable for anything because, hey, they're better than republicans (even though democrats are complicit and do the bare minimum when they get any power).

better than trying to pluge the country into the dark ages like the republicans are doing.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80499794

I still dont get how people keep falling for it. Every single time for the past few decades republicans take power, the economy goes down the drain. Then democrats take back power and build it back up, but not to the level it was and then republicans take power, take credit for building the economy and then proceed to fuck it again. Why are there so many idiots who think republicans are fiscally responsible?!?!?!?!

LightHawKnight posted...

I still dont get how people keep falling for it. Every single time for the past few decades republicans take power, the economy goes down the drain. Then democrats take back power and build it back up, but not to the level it was and then republicans take power, take credit for building the economy and then proceed to fuck it again. Why are there so many idiots who think republicans are fiscally responsible?!?!?!?!

They exist in every country and they never. Ever. ever learn.

1337toothbrush posted...

100% this. Then you get people rushing in saying "b-b-b-but their hands are tied!!" to excuse them, meanwhile republicans can create the fourth reich even without a majority.

Seems like tit-for-tat destuction of the few elements of structure in our government, elements that often play the role of tampening down governmental response to rapid shifts of policy due to elections and what not, might not have the desired goal.

"But they do it so we have to to keep the field level" doesn't work so well when the very organization of government depends on at least one governing body working in good faith with the rules.

Shit like this is said with the expectation that someone like Trump (or rather Trump himself) has no chance of gaining control again. I just don't see that being a possibility given voting patterns.

COVxy posted...

Seems like tit-for-tat destuction of the few elements of structure in our government, elements that often play the role of tampening down governmental response to rapid shifts of policy due to elections and what not, might not have the desired goal.

"But they do it so we have to to keep the field level" doesn't work so well when the very organization of government depends on at least one governing body working in good faith with the rules.

Shit like this is said with the expectation that someone like Trump (or rather Trump himself) has no chance of gaining control again. I just don't see that being a possibility given voting patterns.

You're assuming the system isn't already busted beyond belief. Why let fascists take full advantage while you sit around pretending the system has working checks and balances? You're just paving the way for fascists to continue pushing and gaining power. Spoiler alert: they're going to bend or break rules regardless of whether you do as well.

If you think the system is broken, breaking it more to give those who govern more impunable power, when many of those people act with interests that do not align with the electorate but frequently get elected anyway (all of which is the reason you are angry to begin with), is not the right move. The right move is revolution and rehauling the system.