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TonyKojima
06/30/23 9:05:13 PM
#52:


Taharqa_ posted...
So what's next on the agenda for this illegitimate court? Obergefell vs Hodges? Fair Housing Act? Brown v Board? Loving vs Virginia? Civil Rights Act of 1964?

It's high time that people realize that there is a significant portion of this country that is still pissed about the gains made during the Civil Rights era of the 1960s. Conservatives have been playing a 50 year long game here, slowly chipping away at progress.

There is a significant portion of this country that stopped and said "I'm good" on this 55+ year second attempt at reconstruction (little R) and integration. We have a major political party that is basically a Neo-Confederate Party and a Supreme Court with six members willing to do their bidding.
But its extreme to suggest the court be ignored.

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hockeybub89
06/30/23 9:06:34 PM
#53:


Full_Pokedex posted...
If the Supreme Court ruled a way you want and Red States started ignoring the ruling you'd all be demanding police enforce the ruling. I swear your all such hypocrites.
Why do you hate LGBTQ people and want us all to die, Duncan? Who led you to believe your opinions are worth the bandwidth used to post them?

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:10:12 PM
#54:


hockeybub89 posted...
Why do you hate LGBTQ people and want us all to die, Duncan? Who led you to believe your opinions are worth the bandwidth used to post them?
He's been hanging in those Discords ran by alt-right banned users for too long. They've twisted his mind.


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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:11:36 PM
#55:


Full_Pokedex posted...
If the Supreme Court ruled a way you want and Red States started ignoring the ruling you'd all be demanding police enforce the ruling. I swear your all such hypocrites.
Yes, people are upset that their rights are being stripped away purely due to malice from the Right. Stop trying to "both sides" this when one side has clearly demonstrated its spite for anyone who is not a straight White Christian male.

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tehzeldafanboy
06/30/23 9:12:11 PM
#56:


RuneterranSnap posted...
SC has no legitimacy and no authority.
Making a web designer serve clientele they don't want to doesn't take a negative (lack of) action, but a positive one, though, so that's kind or irrelevant here

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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 9:12:39 PM
#57:


hockeybub89 posted...
Why do you hate LGBTQ people and want us all to die, Duncan? Who led you to believe your opinions are worth the bandwidth used to post them?
I've always been on the side of the law. Or did you miss my opinions on Piracy?

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Euripides
06/30/23 9:14:40 PM
#58:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I've always been on the side of the law. Or did you miss my opinions on Piracy?

What a non-answer

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:14:53 PM
#59:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I've always been on the side of the law. Or did you miss my opinions on Piracy?
So if they repealed the Civil Rights Act and enacted laws that made it legal to discriminate on the basis or race, sex, sexual orientation, etc., as well as laws banning interracial marriage, you would support them because they're the laws of the land?

Because at this rate, those are no longer off the table.

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ThePieReborn
06/30/23 9:17:23 PM
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Lawful Stupid is indeed an alignment.

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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 9:17:55 PM
#61:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Because at this rate, those are no longer off the table.
Yeah ok. And Dinosaurs will come out of my Birthday cake next year

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name_unknown
06/30/23 9:18:22 PM
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Fascists always value law and order over freedom.
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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:26:33 PM
#64:


Full_Pokedex posted...
Yeah ok. And Dinosaurs will come out of my Birthday cake next year
...Have you been paying attention these past few years?

They repealed both Roe (safe access to abortions) and made it legal for people to refuse service on the basis of their religion. With the massive backlash against LGBT by the Right in recent years, you know for damn sure that they will be going after same-sex marriage and equality next.

You also didn't answer my question, being someone who supposedly supports the law 100%.

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LSGW_Zephyra
06/30/23 9:27:46 PM
#65:


Full_Pokedex posted...
You only believe this because they aren't ruling the way you want them too. No one said shit like this during the Obama administration, I wonder why?

It's not hypocrisy to be consistent with ones beliefs. Justice demands action.

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DnDer
06/30/23 9:27:48 PM
#66:


Dark_twisted posted...
Obergefell will likely be challenged and struck down next term. We're headed completely backwards. :/

Thomas swore to it. It's on paper.

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hockeybub89
06/30/23 9:28:46 PM
#67:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I've always been on the side of the law. Or did you miss my opinions on Piracy?
So if you lived in North Korea, you'd browbeat and rat on people if they disagreed with the law?

The law wants me to go fuck myself, so fuck the sanctity of "the law"

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ultimate_reaver
06/30/23 9:28:52 PM
#68:


Euripides posted...
What a non-answer

the person you're talking to literally gets all of their political opinion from their mother who takes care of them, you're not exactly talking to slavoj zizek

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DnDer
06/30/23 9:35:26 PM
#69:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I swear your all such hypocrites.

Are we? Or do we just support actual, legitimate readings of the Constitution instead of Federalist Society nonsense that rolls up the Constitution and uses it for kindling.

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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 9:38:11 PM
#70:


DnDer posted...
Or do we just support actual, legitimate readings of the Constitution
You clearly don't because you're asking for the states to ignore Supreme Court rulings.

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:39:34 PM
#71:


Full_Pokedex posted...
You clearly don't because you're asking for the states to ignore Supreme Court rulings.
Answer the question I posed to you.

So if they repealed the Civil Rights Act and enacted laws that made it legal to discriminate on the basis or race, sex, sexual orientation, etc., as well as laws banning interracial marriage, you would support them because they're the laws of the land?

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DnDer
06/30/23 9:41:13 PM
#72:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I've always been on the side of the law. Or did you miss my opinions on Piracy?

The law outlines who is a protected class that you cannot discriminate against if you run a public-facing business.

The ruling flies in the face of that.

And, as noted, it also flies in the face of a state's sovereign rights to govern itself.

Where is your support for that law?

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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 9:41:37 PM
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No I wouldn't support that if it happens. Keyword if, because it's not going to happen.

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DnDer
06/30/23 9:42:40 PM
#74:


Full_Pokedex posted...
You clearly don't because you're asking for the states to ignore Supreme Court rulings.

The choice at this point is ignore SCOTUS or ignore the law and the Constitution.

Which one will you side with?

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DnDer
06/30/23 9:44:18 PM
#75:


ThePieReborn posted...
Lawful Stupid is indeed an alignment.

Can verify. Have witnessed many times.

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:46:29 PM
#76:


Full_Pokedex posted...
No I wouldn't support that if it happens. Keyword if, because it's not going to happen.
So, you in fact do not support the law 100%. Because you're allegedly against laws that discriminate based on race/sex/etc.

So, why are you supporting SCOTUS when they are backing laws that allow for discrimination on the basis of religion, and backing laws that ban safe access to abortion even when the mother's life is in danger?

Also, like I said before, they are already going after LGBT rights. They absolutely will go after racial minorities next, and in fact, some of them already are (look at the outcry over "CRT", to the point where asshole DeSantis even banned African American Studies AP classes in Florida Universities).

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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 9:48:08 PM
#77:


DnDer posted...
The choice at this point is ignore SCOTUS or ignore the law and the Constitution.

Which one will you side with?
I think I'm done with this board. You're getting more insane with every passing day.

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gu-gohan
06/30/23 9:49:22 PM
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DnDer
06/30/23 9:52:36 PM
#79:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I think I'm done with this board. You're getting more insane with every passing day.

I feel like you didn't answer my question about if you support the law, as you say, or the SCOTUS, which is outright ignoring the law (when it doesn't make something up from whole cloth).

Do you support the law? Or SCOTUS?

You can't claim both in this case.

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hockeybub89
06/30/23 9:56:11 PM
#80:


Full_Pokedex posted...
You clearly don't because you're asking for the states to ignore Supreme Court rulings.
"It's right because it's the law. Stop disagreeing with laws. You wouldn't disagree with laws that didn't oppress innocent people, hypocrite!"

Stunning political analysis, champ. I also would get more mad if forced to eat a cat turd, but far less mad if asked if I wanted a slice of pizza.

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Strider102
06/30/23 9:57:36 PM
#81:


Duncan gonna be losing this account soon.

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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 9:58:06 PM
#82:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I think I'm done with this board. You're getting more insane with every passing day.
It's really on you for constantly interjecting yourself into subjects that you are in no way equipped to understand.

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BearlyWilling
06/30/23 9:59:08 PM
#83:


HylianFox posted...
Also funny how "states rights" suddenly evaporate whenever some straight white christian gets their panties in a twist



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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 10:00:38 PM
#84:


Strider102 posted...
Duncan gonna be losing this account soon.
I'm ok with that.

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Block_that_Kick
06/30/23 10:02:40 PM
#85:


Full_Pokedex posted...
Andrew Jackson got impeached for it.

Wrong Andrew.

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hockeybub89
06/30/23 10:06:01 PM
#86:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I'm ok with that.
Ok bye. You and your parents can vote for more fascists to destroy our freedoms and we can continue to call you what you are

Some of us believe that twisting First Amendment protections to justify state-sponsored discrimination is wrong.

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GranAures
06/30/23 10:07:11 PM
#87:


Wow, who's surprised to see people backing discrimination. To see people defending laws that make minorities second class citizens.

Note the lack of question mark.

"But it's the law."
So was slavery and turning in jews.
And he'll be back even if he loses his account despite saying he's done

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Strider102
06/30/23 10:09:29 PM
#88:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I'm ok with that.

You'll be back, you say this every time and come back.

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tremain07
06/30/23 10:21:14 PM
#89:


We're becoming a country where
Women will not have the right to their own bodies and may be forbidden from learning about it due to religious beliefs
Gay and trans people will not have rights whatsoever
Discriminating against someone for their race, sex, religious and even politicial beliefs will be entirely legal up to and including medical treatment, employment opportunities and general ability to participate in society and the ability to vote.
Corporations and those who own them will have even more free reign to pursue business interests regardless of any government laws

In short, we're living in the beginning of the end of the united states of america and the rise of a historic-faciast dictatorship

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name_unknown
06/30/23 10:23:07 PM
#90:


Citizens United and PACs accelerated the fascist slide.
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Full_Pokedex
06/30/23 10:23:53 PM
#91:


tremain07 posted...
We're becoming a country where
Women will not have the right to their own bodies and may be forbidden from learning about it due to religious beliefs
Gay and trans people will not have rights whatsoever
Discriminating against someone for their race, sex, religious and even politicial beliefs will be entirely legal up to and including medical treatment, employment opportunities and general ability to participate in society and the ability to vote.
Corporations and those who own them will have even more free reign to pursue business interests regardless of any government laws

In short, we're living in the beginning of the end of the united states of america and the rise of a historic-faciast dictatorship
Yeah ok

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JoeBurrow
06/30/23 10:24:45 PM
#92:


Duncan, you can stop now
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emblem-man
06/30/23 10:24:58 PM
#93:


Dark_twisted posted...
Obergefell will likely be challenged and struck down next term. We're headed completely backwards. :/

Thankfully, gay marriage has been Codified into law already this year or last.


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Solar_Crimson
06/30/23 10:30:14 PM
#94:


Full_Pokedex posted...
Yeah ok
Weren't you leaving?

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Gwynevere
06/30/23 10:30:15 PM
#95:


I'm in full agreement that Colorado should say "noted" and enforce their law anyway. The Supreme Court has no means to actually enforce any of their decisions. It's all based on good faith, and if they show no good faith then why should anyone else?

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GranAures
06/30/23 10:31:15 PM
#96:


Duncan, we know. You don't care until they come for you. Just ignore the coup, demonizing rhetoric, and targeted legislation.

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uwnim
06/30/23 10:35:29 PM
#97:


Gwynevere posted...
I'm in full agreement that Colorado should say "noted" and enforce their law anyway. The Supreme Court has no means to actually enforce any of their decisions. It's all based on good faith, and if they show no good faith then why should anyone else?
I don't. But I live in Florida where the threat of losing free speech is pointed my way and not towards conservatives.

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GranAures
06/30/23 10:41:23 PM
#98:


uwnim posted...
I don't. But I live in Florida where the threat of losing free speech is pointed my way and not towards conservatives.
"Just follow the law!" - Duncan while ignoring the attack on constitutional rights to free speech.

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Ruvan22
06/30/23 10:47:16 PM
#99:


Full_Pokedex posted...
It is illegal to do so. I hope none of you teach Constitutional Law because you're awful at it.

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BearlyWilling
06/30/23 10:47:34 PM
#100:


Full_Pokedex posted...
I'm ok with that.

can you not come back this time? @Full_Pokedex

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hockeybub89
06/30/23 10:48:34 PM
#101:


Full_Pokedex posted...
Yeah ok
Repealing Roe v Wade means women are little more than cum dumpsters in America.

Half the country is working on making gender transition illegal and to strip LGBTQ people of discrimination protection.

But your mommy can still buy you Subway, so why should you give a fuck about other people?

The GOP is promising to destroy my career and my life. I don't give a fuck how good of people their voters might be. Their voting habits aren't doing any good for me, only harm.

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