Current Events > C/D When human beings start resorting to violence it solves absolutely nothing

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CedarPointcp
06/28/23 11:32:41 AM
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confirm/deny




have you ever heard people say this? do you agree with it?
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Southernfatman
06/28/23 11:35:17 AM
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Sometimes it's sadly necessary though.

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DarkChozoGhost
06/28/23 11:35:40 AM
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Violence solves a lot of things. It should generally be avoided, but people greatly exaggerate how important it is to avoid.

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JebronLames
06/28/23 11:36:10 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Violence solves a lot of things. It should generally be avoided, but people greatly exaggerate how important it is to avoid.
it solves a lot of things? in what way?

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PraetorXyn
06/28/23 11:37:46 AM
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Nonsense. The threat of violence is the only thing that might eventually solve the root of most of this countrys problems (basically, if the wealthy oligarchs fear for their lives they may lessen their greedy fuckery back to pre 80s levels).

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Bass
06/28/23 11:41:43 AM
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Yeah, violence is sadly effective. I wish it wasn't so, but it is one of the better ways to force change. Even just the threat of violence can work.

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JebronLames
06/28/23 11:42:54 AM
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Bass posted...
Yeah, violence is sadly effective. I wish it wasn't so, but it is one of the better ways to force change. Even just the threat of violence can work.
what about using violence when it is completely unprovoked?

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Will_VIIII
06/28/23 11:44:14 AM
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I mean I don't have an issue with violence against Nazis

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Megaman50100
06/28/23 11:44:18 AM
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JebronLames posted...
it solves a lot of things? in what way?
Simply by physically destroying things that are the source of problems.

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averagejoel
06/28/23 11:45:31 AM
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violence can be very effective at solving problems. it's unpleasant, but sometimes necessary

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dummy420
06/28/23 11:47:38 AM
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Luckily in the modern world you may never have to resort to violence. But if it's something you outright refuse then you leave yourself open to those that will use it to exploit you and rely on those that will use it to support you. Violence is the answer at times.

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DarthAragorn
06/28/23 11:47:53 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/8/AAEmLGAAEnCy.jpg

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K181
06/28/23 11:54:18 AM
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Violence did a pretty decently good job stopping fascism.

For a while....

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Tom_Joad
06/28/23 11:57:55 AM
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JebronLames posted...
it solves a lot of things? in what way?

It removed the Nazis from Germany, now didn't it?

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EmilyTheCEman
06/28/23 11:59:38 AM
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My older brother bullied me for years, one day I got fed up and broke his nose, he hasnt bullied me since.

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deathproof12
06/28/23 12:00:24 PM
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People need to be held accountable to get shit done and nothing keeps people more accountable than the possibility of getting the shit kicked out of them.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/28/23 12:00:55 PM
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JebronLames posted...
it solves a lot of things? in what way?
Short answer: punching Nazis is a morally good thing, and similar violent actions are also the right thing to do.

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Kai_Laguna
06/28/23 12:03:36 PM
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I don't know man, it seems like a pretty good solution to the billionaire problem.
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buddhamonster
06/28/23 12:03:45 PM
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JebronLames posted...
it solves a lot of things? in what way?
Any time you kill an animal or plant to eat.

Any time we've made clothing from furs/skins.

Acquiring lumber for shelter.

Three quintessential survival needs of humans routinely accomplished through violence.

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AloneIBreak
06/28/23 12:05:47 PM
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Generally C, but Im not at all surprised to see angry, bloodthirsty CE voting for D in droves.

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JebronLames
06/28/23 12:08:14 PM
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AloneIBreak posted...
Generally C, but Im not at all surprised to see angry, bloodthirsty CE voting for D in droves.
oh, why do you think this? you believe that ce is more violent than avg?

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Pitlord_Special
06/28/23 12:12:47 PM
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If violence didn't solve anything, then why does every government employ men with guns to enforce the law?

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Prismsblade
06/28/23 12:19:24 PM
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I won't bother with the poll options. But yes, violence is necessary at times to enact change.

Although due to propaganda many nowadays believe it is not and never should be a option under any circumstances which is utter BS.

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Oh_Boy_
06/28/23 12:21:46 PM
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Violence resolves issues
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Philip027
06/28/23 12:24:55 PM
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People who say it solves "nothing" are ignorant to reality. In spite of the popular song, there's reasons war has existed for as long as it has.
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voldothegr8
06/28/23 12:33:23 PM
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https://youtu.be/pPOe2ypB5Qc

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AloneIBreak
06/28/23 12:33:39 PM
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JebronLames posted...
oh, why do you think this? you believe that ce is more violent than avg?
No, I think CE just talks a big game.

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evilpresident
06/28/23 12:35:16 PM
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Violence solves a lot of problems. Very few rights have been gained by asking nicely.

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ai123
06/28/23 12:40:20 PM
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Who is almost always the victims of violence, should it be tolerated?

The Nazis? The nationalists? The kleptocrats? The misogynists? The oppressors?

Or the poor, the marginalised, the sick, the immigrant, the disenfranchised and the different?

I'm sure the first group think violence solves a whole lot of problems related to the second.

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Ninjaluver
06/28/23 12:41:39 PM
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Throughout most of history, the answer would be D.

In modern times, C.
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JebronLames
06/28/23 12:42:30 PM
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ai123 posted...
Who is almost always the victims of violence, should it be tolerated?

The Nazis? The nationalists? The kleptocrats? The misogynists? The oppressors?

Or the poor, the marginalised, the sick, the immigrant, the disenfranchised and the different?

I'm sure the first group think violence solves a whole lot of problems related to the second.
yeah good point.

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Lil_Bit83
06/28/23 12:49:01 PM
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Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

If someone was being assaulted and at least tried to fight back, there's a chance they can make it out of the situation depending on how good they are in a fight. Sometimes it just makes it worse if they are a more passive or timid person.

Sometimes violence is just senseless and does nothing to endear anyone to whatever cause you are in. Such as religious, political violence, genocide etc.

Sometimes a violent revolution is needed to start getting rid of an oppressive cruel government.

Long story short, it depends on the situation, the motive, and success.

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Solar_Crimson
06/28/23 12:51:23 PM
#33:


Southernfatman posted...
Sometimes it's sadly necessary though.


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RchHomieQuanChi
06/28/23 12:52:33 PM
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Honestly, it's time for us to admit that the threat of violence is the only way we're even able to keep the rich and powerful accountable.

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Intro2Logic
06/28/23 12:54:49 PM
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ai123 posted...
Who is almost always the victims of violence, should it be tolerated?

The Nazis? The nationalists? The kleptocrats? The misogynists? The oppressors?
How'd the Nazis get stopped, anyways?


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ai123
06/28/23 12:58:03 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
How'd the Nazis get stopped, anyways?
Which ones?

Point is, that when people say violence solves problems, they imagine Nazis being defeated, bigots getting slapped down, and crooked capitalists getting their comeuppance.

But violence is a tool most commonly used by oppressors to solve their problems.

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Ninjaluver
06/28/23 1:02:03 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Honestly, it's time for us to admit that the threat of violence is the only way we're even able to keep the rich and powerful accountable.

Lmao how does that work? In what way does the poor have any real way to threaten the rich and powerful with violence? The rich and powerful are the ones who control the means through which to use violence.
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Nasty_Nitro
06/28/23 1:11:31 PM
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Purely situational.

If your in prison are you gonna talk nicely to your rapist? no you have to bash his skull.

What if a dude at your job cornered you in the bathroom about to pull his dick out on you? You gotta hurt him.

If a woman pulls a knife on you you gotta be ready to get down.

Sometimes you gotta run sometimes you gotta get down.

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