Current Events > CD Project Red: "We need to fix our relationship with our players"

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Touch
06/27/23 12:05:03 PM
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/cd-projekt-we-need-to-fix-the-relationship-with-our-players

Kinda sad to see all the goodwill they bought with Witcher 3 come crashing down with Cyberpunk. Saw this in a reddit thread and no one was believing them, saying it's all lip service when they really want to fix the relationship with their investors/parent company or whatever

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s0nicfan
06/27/23 12:07:08 PM
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Hey, if they really pulled their act together and this cyberpunk DLC is incredible, people will eventually come back around. But everyone has a right to be critical and statements alone aren't going to buy people back.

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pauIie
06/27/23 12:09:17 PM
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so do it. keep making cyberpunk as good as you can.

just do it.

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GunmaN1905
06/27/23 12:10:31 PM
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Well, they're still a very small studio compared to some AAA giants and Witcher 3 definitely punched way above it's weight.

They had the best intentions with Cyberpunk, but the game gained so much traction and hype that everyone expected it to be the greatest ever, which was impossible to achieve with their deadlines and lack of manpower.

Right now Cyberpunk is a completely different game than it was at the release, at least on PC.
Phantom Liberty will overhaul ever more things and I'd say that it's a game everyone should give a shot.
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Touch
06/27/23 12:10:51 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Hey, if they really pulled their act together and this cyberpunk DLC is incredible, people will eventually come back around. But everyone has a right to be critical and statements alone aren't going to buy people back.
Yeah hopefully they pull a No Mans Sky, but even with all the work they've done with that game there are still detractors.

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Touch
06/27/23 12:11:28 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
Well, they're still a very small studio compared to some AAA giants and Witcher 3 definitely punched way above it's weight.

They had the best intentions with Cyberpunk, but the game gained so much traction and hype that everyone expected it to be the greatest ever, which was impossible to achieve with their deadlines and lack of manpower.

Right now Cyberpunk is a completely different game than it was at the release, at least on PC.
Phantom Liberty will overhaul ever more things and I'd say that it's a game everyone should give a shot.
I've actually been meaning to play it, just waiting for the right price point/sale. The TV show was pretty dope

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Aloc
06/27/23 12:11:52 PM
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Cut dlc price in half then.


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s0nicfan
06/27/23 12:11:54 PM
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Touch posted...
Yeah hopefully they pull a No Mans Sky, but even with all the work they've done with that game there are still detractors.

And there probably will be for another game or two. Goodwill is easily broken and hard to restore, but that was the compromise they chose to make by releasing a completely unplayable game on last gen consoles, which no doubt contributed to why it was so buggy on current gen consoles and pc.

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Turbam
06/27/23 12:12:27 PM
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It's not their fault honestly.
They made one good game and everyone just started to believe that they were the GOAT devs and could do no wrong.

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GunmaN1905
06/27/23 12:16:47 PM
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Aloc posted...
Cut dlc price in half then.

It's $30, iirc.

Witcher had two expansions that took 30 hours total to complete at normal pace. Phantom Liberty will be more or less the same.

Turbam posted...
It's not their fault honestly.
They made one good game and everyone just started to believe that they were the GOAT devs and could do no wrong.

TW2 was also GOTY level game, it's just that the franchise wasn't as popular back then. Everything they did before Cyberpunk was more or less perfect in terms of caring about the playerbase.

Cyberpunk was a massive fuckup, but a lot of devs would've just given up on the game and moved on, instead they reworked almost every bad mechanic and right now the game is what it should've been on the release. I'll give it another run when the expansion comes out, because that patch will rebalance all the builds again.

Most importantly, they never had any microtransactions in any of their games. Not even in standalone Gwent game and we know how card games usually leech money off the playerbase.
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ArsGoetia
06/27/23 12:18:37 PM
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cdpr has never made a good game and gog is a third tier platform

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Ratchetrockon
06/27/23 12:35:31 PM
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They should make the cyberpunk expansion free then

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Aloc
06/27/23 12:37:31 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
It's $30, iirc.

Witcher had two expansions that took 30 hours total to complete at normal pace. Phantom Liberty will be more or less the same.
Wow that's expensive for such little content and for an incomplete game.


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Questionmarktarius
06/27/23 12:37:45 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
They had the best intentions with Cyberpunk, but the game gained so much traction and hype that everyone expected it to be the greatest ever, which was impossible to achieve with their deadlines and lack of manpower.
Replace "Cyperpunk" with pretty much anything, and nothing changes.
The industry has a terminal case of Molyneux Disease.
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GunmaN1905
06/27/23 12:47:09 PM
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Aloc posted...
Wow that's expensive for such little content and for an incomplete game.

You post from one alt account and I don't respond, so you log onto another one and directly quote me with a bait?
Get a life, basement dweller. It's a dead site, why are you people ruining every topic with idiotic baiting.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Replace "Cyperpunk" with pretty much anything, and nothing changes.
The industry has a terminal case of Molyneux Disease.

Yeah, gaming has been on a steady decline for years.
Imo, hardware improvements have been the death of it.
All we talk about is framerate, visual fidelity, DLSS this, Raytracing that and if you look at 2023 AAA game mechanics and gameplay, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a 2013 game if not for improved visuals.

Idk maybe that's what people enjoy, but I play games for good gameplay mechanics, character dvelopment and story, not for graphics. I'll watch a movie if I'm into cinematic experience.
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Aloc
06/27/23 12:47:43 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
You post from one alt account and I don't respond, so you log onto another one and directly quote me with a bait?
Get a life, basement dweller. It's a dead site, why are you people ruining every topic with idiotic baiting.
What are you talking about.


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GunmaN1905
06/27/23 12:49:50 PM
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Aloc posted...
What are you talking about.

About you being a basement dwelling troll alt.
Noone new registered to this site in years and they most certainly didn't venture into CE.
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Aloc
06/27/23 12:53:07 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
About you being a basement dwelling troll alt.
Noone new registered to this site in years and they most certainly didn't venture into CE.
Bro some of you dudes just throw out insults for no reason.

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Seaman_Prime
06/27/23 12:53:30 PM
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They shouldve bought me a nice dinner before they fucked my hopes and dreams!
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YourBestFrenemy
06/27/23 12:56:09 PM
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I'm enjoying this game now. Looking forward to the expansion.

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