Current Events > Friend of OceanGate CEO tried to warn him repeatedly, emails show

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https://www.insider.com/submersible-expert-worried-oceangate-stockton-rush-spurred-on-by-criticism-2023-6

OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush received a warning from a submarine expert he was friends with about his ambition and the stability of his sub, four years before he boarded the Titan submersible trip that the US Coast Guard said imploded last week.

Insider obtained a four-year-old email chain between Rush and Karl Stanley, who runs a deep-sea exploration company in Honduras, Stanley's Submarines, and participated in a test dive on the Titan submersible in 2019.
"There comes a time logic has to overrule impatience," Karl Stanley wrote in an email to Rush: "The evidence suggests there is an issue/ defect in one area. Without knowing what that defect or issue is, your models and experts cannot say how it will affect the performance of the hull."

Stanley's email chain with Rush detailed what Stanley described as a defect with the Titan submersible that caused a loud cracking sound to occur during a test dive, prompting him to urge Rush to engage in far more testing 50 test dives compared to seven proposed by Rush before allowing passengers to board the vessel.


His suggestions were more stringent than the OceanGate CEO appeared willing to undergo; Rush said the 50-dive test suggestion was "arbitrary" and told Stanley to "keep your opinions to yourself" because the sub expert didn't have access to OceanGate's analysis of the Titan.

"Your recent emails tell me that we have had two fundamental misunderstandings," Rush wrote to Stanley after he said OceanGate should conduct more testing on the Titan: "The first is regarding your role while visiting us in the Bahamas. I value your experience and advice on many things, but not on assessment of carbon fiber pressure hulls."
Rush added: "The second, even more disturbing misunderstanding is your concern that I will either intentionally or unintentionally succumb to pressure and take advantage of our clients. I realize more than anyone that this is the primary pitfall and have taken multiple steps to guard against this."

Man... This is fucking tragic. What level of arrogant asshole do you have to be in order to ignore a loud cracking sound in a fucking submersible?

Shouldnt the authorities get involved with this knowledge?

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Shouldnt the authorities get involved with this knowledge?

Against who? The responsible one is already dead, and we have already heard of more or less anyone involved and their mother trying to talk sense into him.

Stanley's email chain with Rush detailed what Stanley described as a defect with the Titan submersible that caused a loud cracking sound to occur during a test dive, prompting him to urge Rush to engage in far more testing 50 test dives compared to seven proposed by Rush before allowing passengers to board the vessel.

in case anyone was still wondering what the banging noises on sonar were

Yeah this could have all been avoided. He was a con man.

Karovorak posted...

Against who? The responsible one is already dead, and we have already heard of more or less anyone involved and their mother trying to talk sense into him.

His company still exists and there are living people still there. Someone took over when he died

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Shouldnt the authorities get involved with this knowledge?

Stockton Rush is dead. Time to act would have been before he took passengers down. But from what the news has said after people died was that subs dont have the same strict rules that space tourism has.

Zikten posted...

His company still exists and there are living people still there. Someone took over when he died

The money the company may still have is a good point, but I think it will be hard to find a person you can make accountable for this, when there is so much proof pointing to the old CEO.

I saw a few new videos stating he never had any sort of actual partnership with NASA, etc etc. for anything meaningful that was going on the sub. They also all denied working on the fiberglass hull

It was obvious the guy didn't care much about it meeting any sort of benchmarks on safety. I'm thinking he didn't have the money to do all the necessary testing beforehand so just didn't do it and justified it by saying it was superfluous.

This guy really should have been the only one on his piece of shit.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Shouldnt the authorities get involved with this knowledge?

Yes let's arrest that dead dude sunk with Jiraiya

thronedfire2 posted...

in case anyone was still wondering what the banging noises on sonar were

The banging noises happened way after the sub was gone. They weren't related to the implosion.

thronedfire2 posted...

in case anyone was still wondering what the banging noises on sonar were

That was days after the sub was already gone.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Shouldnt the authorities get involved with this knowledge?

What authorities?
There's a reason it's all done in international waters.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

The banging noises happened way after the sub was gone. They weren't related to the implosion.

Shredded bits of metal being smacked together by deep currents is going to sound quite a bit like someone tapping metal with a hammer, and probably about as rhythmical.

Guy lied so much he believed the lies. Guy thought he could override physics with the power of positive thinking.

theAteam posted...

It was obvious the guy didn't care much about it meeting any sort of benchmarks on safety. I'm thinking he didn't have the money to do all the necessary testing beforehand so just didn't do it and justified it by saying it was superfluous.

He had money, but decided that it was more important to donate to GOP.