Current Events > Eric July's Isom #2 campaign finally up for pre-order

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:09:23 PM
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https://rippaverse.com/product/isom-2-campaign/

Finally, and already passed the goal of $350k.

If you support good comics and indies, this is for you!

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Kai_Laguna
06/12/23 6:17:37 PM
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I read isom 1 when 4chan/co/ story timed it. Mid at best.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:18:28 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
I read isom 1 when 4chan/co/ story timed it. Mid at best.

Yea hopefully #2 will have more action

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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:19:01 PM
#5:


Good comics
Isom

Pick one.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:20:51 PM
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What makes it a scam iyo? The guy actually delivered.

Murphiroth posted...
Good comics
Isom

Pick one.

Both! Especially compared to what were getting from the major producers.


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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:21:20 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...


Both! Especially compared to what were getting from the major producers.

Incorrect.
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Proto_Spark
06/12/23 6:24:02 PM
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The reviews for Isom #1 were as others have said, mid at best.

Which is honestly the worst reaction that something like Isom that heavily depended on culture war BS to sell copies. If the book was shit, they could say they're just being held down by the "woke agenda" or whatever, and if it was good, they could talk about how they've overcome the "SJWs" and proven they're right. Being mid just means everyone basically immediately forgot about it.

If they avoid culture war shit while running this one, its possible they're getting better, and just wanted to make the biggest splash possible for their debut, but I doubt it.

Also, the avoiding digital for some stupid reason means its like 70$ to ship to Canada, which means even if it was good there's no fucking chance I'm spending that for the equivalent of 3 issues of a comic.
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Right wingers don't have a ton else to go on, they need to harp on anyone who will suck up to them because they need to stay in their safe spaces.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:26:24 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Incorrect.

Japanese manga has taken over the comic scene.

People like you need to think long and hard about that.

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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:27:36 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
Japanese manga has taken over the comic scene.

People like you need to think long and hard about that.

Why? I don't give a shit what sells more.

You, on the other hand, should probably try to think, like, at all, because it's clear you don't.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:30:45 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Why? I don't give a shit what sells more.

You, on the other hand, should probably try to think, like, at all, because it's clear you don't.

I think youre salty

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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:33:46 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
I think youre salty

Nah I just like good comics, not mid ones.
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lolife67
06/12/23 6:37:24 PM
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Lol morons are still falling for this grift? Smh amazing
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:41:34 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Nah I just like good comics, not mid ones.

As mid as Isom #1 is, its still better than nearly a decade of what Marvel or DC put out. Thats why its such a breath of fresh air. No more farts

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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:42:07 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
As mid as Isom #1 is, its still better than nearly a decade of what Marvel or DC put out. Thats why its such a breath of fresh air. No more farts

LOL simply incorrect.
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Proto_Spark
06/12/23 6:44:16 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
Japanese manga has taken over the comic scene.

People like you need to think long and hard about that.

Likely because American comics refuse to really expand from capeshit.

Which makes this whole thing very strange to me. It very much feels like July doesn't actually want Isom to succeed.

Not only is the price quite high (which is at least somewhat understandable, its like a kickstarter and when you support stuff like this you kind of expect to be paying a bit more) but there's also the refusal to go digital (removing a cheaper option for many who might have an interest), and making a superhero universe - insisting on trying to push into the most crowded part of the market at a point where most mainstream audiences are losing interest. Most of the advertised hype around Isom is for things that should be taking place years or decades down the line - that's a big sign something might be fishy. There's a reason Image branched out so much outside of superheroes.

Add to that a current output of roughly the equivalent to 3 issues per year meaning we'll likely never actually see any of the big "for the fans" things July actually promised. Because its not a hot new thing anymore, this kickstarter won't do nearly as well as the first one, nor will the inevitable next 5, and there will have to be like, an actual distribution plan eventually, and without the culture war BS, will this comic be able to survive regularly in competition with all the other comics? Based on the reviews of the first one, probably not.

And then a bunch of dumb stuff from the first campaign, like July not understanding Paypal's user agreement which actually led to nearly screwing a lot of people over (while July tried to blame PayPal for him fucking up) means that even if there isn't actually a fire here, there's definitely smoke.

There's no long-term hints for success here. Isom seems to be attempting to be jumping into the deepest part of the ocean, with big-ass sharks from Marvel, DC, Image, and basically every other comic company, and trying to compete with like 1/20th of the output, 3x the price and similar (if not worse) quality. And actively alienating like 1/2 (at worst) of the comic-reading audience who isn't turned off by the culture war crap. It's so weird if this is trying to be 100% legit.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:46:49 PM
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lolife67 posted...
Lol morons are still falling for this grift? Smh amazing

How much longer will it be considered grift? When it falls to Marvel/DC level sales?

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lolife67
06/12/23 6:55:58 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
How much longer will it be considered grift? When it falls to Marvel/DC level sales?
It's a grift because he's using "anti-woke" rhetoric to push his comics, not the actual quality of the product. It's a scam because his claims that his books will somehow change the industry or cause Marvel/DC to change or regret their progressive storytelling is a blatant lie. And he's only pushing that narrative to get fools to buy his, by all accounts, very mediocre books.

So to answer your question, it will stop being a grift when he actually promotes his books on their merits and not simply to appeal to outrage.
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Murphiroth
06/12/23 6:56:49 PM
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"When will it stop being considered a grift?" says man who is falling for said grift.
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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 6:57:07 PM
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Yea well see how good Isom #2 is and how well it sells.

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 7:34:29 PM
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Back when publishers still released sales numbers yes it definitely true.

The only thing profitable for Marvel and DC were the movies and lately weve seen how thats been long on decline.

All companies want your money, what Eric has done is put his where his mouth is and down major investments like buy a new warehouse and hire the previously big names on the industry like Chuck Dixon.


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Kim_Seong-a
06/12/23 7:39:41 PM
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Its easy to believe if you dont actually read comics and just hear about cherry-picked examples of shit projects and complaints of "wokeness" from grifters on Youtube >_>

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 7:41:29 PM
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If you actually listen to Julys YouTubes youd know that wokeness is hardly the factor for the state of the mainstream comics industry.

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Kim_Seong-a
06/12/23 7:44:34 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
If you actually listen to Julys YouTubes youd know that wokeness is hardly the factor for the state of the mainstream comics industry.

Big "Who's scruffy looking?" energy from this post

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MistyKnight
06/12/23 7:55:54 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
https://rippaverse.com/product/isom-2-campaign/

Finally, and already passed the goal of $350k.

If you support good comics and indies, this is for you!

Lol good comics?

This alt right anti-woke bonerfest

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
06/12/23 7:57:33 PM
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MistyKnight posted...
Lol good comics?

This alt right anti-woke bonerfest

Its so bizarre when this gets called alt-right, like do you even know who Erics July is? Lmao

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/12/23 8:16:38 PM
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AI_TechGam3FAQS posted...
Its so bizarre when this gets called alt-right, like do you even know who Erics July is? Lmao

Yes, he's a libertarian chud who complains about wokeness, which essentially makes him diet alt-right.

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MistyKnight
06/12/23 9:10:05 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Yes, he's a libertarian chud who complains about wokeness, which essentially makes him diet alt-right.

This

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