Current Events > C/D: the pride flag is ugly

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Euripides posted...

If you have proof that it "changes every year" I'd love to see it

i never said it changes every year, you stated it changed once, where is your proof, I would love to see it

R1masher posted...

i never said it changes every year, you stated it changed once, where is your proof, I would love to see it

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/1/AAA3sqAAEhNF.jpg

R1's gonna be R1

Euripides posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/1/AAA3sqAAEhNF.jpg

R1's gonna be R1

pretty sure youre wrong, but I wouldnt make that a statement

I'll support them, but yes. The flag is hideous.

What it represents as far as inclusivity is awesome, but it's still kind of an eyesore... But, I guess that also can make it iconic. I mean it is hard to forget at least.

I think it's fine.

MrToothHasYou posted...

Acknowledgement of the elevated levels of violence and discrimination directed at POC within the LGBTQ community, and also an acknowledgement of the contributions that POC have made to the movement which have historically gone unrecognized.

Oh wow, I didn't know that.
That's pretty rad.

Visually in isolation? No. It's way too much.

But it's doing what it needs to be doing in representing various communities. In this case, the function is more important than the aesthetics.

This is just one of many different flags, btw, and theres nothing that makes this one in particular the official pride flag over others.

The colors for POC and trans representation were added to help raise awareness and promote solidarity in consideration of the current political climate.

The black stripe in particular also represents community members lost to HIV/AIDS.

Questionmarktarius posted...

better rainbow+triangle flag

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/1/AAEhCpAAEijf.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AAdkcxAAEijs.jpg

The biggest problem with this flag is how the trans and poc colors stick out by being a triangle

If those 5 colors were just more bars added on the flag I can see it working

As someone who is trans... I think the original flag looks better. The added colors just make this one too busy.

I understand the idea behind Quasar's pride flag redesign and while I don't think it's aesthetically unpleasing at all, there's part of me that can't help but think there's something off, especially how Quasar's professional portfolio mostly consists of corporate/media work and insisted on crowdfunding to get it popular where it could have easily caught on through means like social media and word-of-mouth. It's my inner cynic but the only thing I dislike is how Quasar chose to use the color black to represent both Black allies and AIDS victims. It'd be like if the incorporation of white in the design was intended to represent both trans people and white allies. The function makes sense but could be construed a different way.

On the other side, I can see why many people prefer the redesign as there's still a lot of racism and transphobia within the queer community, and how a design acknowledging those demographics is more inclusive. Being in a demographic that's marginalized within an already marginalized demographic must be insanely frustrating.

Gamespoht posted...

The biggest problem with this flag is how the trans and poc colors stick out by being a triangle

If those 5 colors were just more bars added on the flag I can see it working

The triangle bothers me a lot less than the colors clashing tbh

And I think the reason it's like this is because somewhere along the way someone decided that every stripe has to specifically represent something, even though that isn't what the original rainbow was about. They're trying to make it a visual representation of the LGBTQ+ initials where they can just keep adding letters and it doesn't really work like that for a flag

Well, I saw a dickhead on Facebook who took four of these flags and made them look like a swastika, so I have that going for me today

ai123 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/4/AAdkcxAAEijs.jpg

Honestly, this annoys me much more than it should.

Rainbows or rainbow colors are awesome, but these days every rainbow is seen as a political statement.

It became the biggest magnet for trolls, flames, haters, biggots and politics in general imaginable. ***** these ****** with *********.

It's fine. Doesn't really leave an impact on me one way or the other... I'm not really a flag guy anyway. I don't lose my shit over them lol.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/1/AAcv9ZAAEit9.jpg

Just from the visual design perspective, it's too busy.

And if the idea was to visually represent everyone, then it fails because there's going to be a whole lot of people not shown to be included in the flag.

As a representative flag, I think the original rainbow was the best.

The trans and BIPOC colors being a triangle represents the intersectionality of these groups within the gay community and their role as the foundation of modern-day pride movements (The Stonewall Riots).

The rainbow flag is more specific to Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual people. A trans person can still be straight, or gay, or bi.

AAPI is sometimes included in these flag designs, but it's a much smaller market and some critics (not me personally) say that these groups experience discrimination disconnected from queer discrimination and/or lack the same (United States) historical significance in LGBT history as black and brown people.

The one in the OP is awful. I mean the sentiment is nice

But god is it annoying to look at.

Surely there has to be a better way to incorporate those extra colors rather than just slapping them on top of the old pride flag like a cheap walmart sticker. >_>

You guys should come up with some better ones if you don't like this one.

...the original design?

I mean, it represents lgbt+, right (+ being everything else including the kitchen sink)?
Simple design, easily recognizable (and already established).

Karovorak posted...

Honestly, this annoys me much more than it should.

Rainbows or rainbow colors are awesome, but these days every rainbow is seen as a political statement.

It became the biggest magnet for trolls, flames, haters, biggots and politics in general imaginable. ***** these ****** with *********.

These are probably the same kind of people who think being "sweet" and "fruity" are bad things even though sweets and fruits are inherently things humans are supposed to like.

i prefer the OG rainbow flag. this version looks a bit clunky but whatevs...

I reported the swastika flag to Facebook, who promptly told me it didn't break their rules.

TIL Facebook has no rules

Change it to a butterfly maybe

GeraldDarko posted...

I support pride, but what the fuck is that hot mess

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/8/AAfOU9AADSl8.png

this one is 100% ugly and one of the many reasons i wish my country would stop copying america all the time

Euripides posted...

I reported the swastika flag to Facebook, who promptly told me it didn't break their rules.

TIL Facebook has no rules

You mean the multi-billion dollar social media corporation doesn't care about bigotry because they still generate ad revenue?

I'm shocked, sir. Shocked.

It 100% needs a redesign.

For all the stereotypes about lgbtq+ being fashion conscious we've let that hot mess exist for far too long.

ZMythos posted...

You mean the multi-billion dollar social media corporation doesn't care about bigotry because they still generate ad revenue?

I'm shocked, sir. Shocked.

i don't think big corporations leaving up swastika flags or whatever is as common as you're making it out to be

Euripides posted...

I reported the swastika flag to Facebook, who promptly told me it didn't break their rules.

TIL Facebook has no rules

You were the vegan that was being suggested all the anti-vegan content, right. This is all by design. They allow it because it causes controversy and they suggested it to you to cause controversy. Is fucked up.

Choco posted...

i don't think big corporations leaving up swastika flags or whatever is as common as you're making it out to be

It was all but confirmed that Facebook's algorithm boosted far-right content including anti-vaccine posts, 2020 election deniers, and white supremacist content creators.

Funkydog posted...

It 100% needs a redesign.

For all the stereotypes about lgbtq+ being fashion conscious we've let that hot mess exist for far too long.

Coming soon: Pride flag for the straight lad

ZMythos posted...

It was all but confirmed that Facebook's algorithm boosted far-right content including anti-vaccine posts, 2020 election deniers, and white supremacist content creators.

yeah but that's not the same as a literal swastika or whatever. i think. maybe i'm being silly

Choco posted...

yeah but that's not the same as a literal swastika or whatever. i think. maybe i'm being silly

My guess is that the other poster's report was ignored perhaps because those reports are also handled by bots and not an actual team of people. So "shape of a swastika but not the colors of one" is just obscure enough to bypass an automated process.

Someone posting blatant nazi symbolism is obviously not gonna stick around for long.

Believe it or not, on my way home I just noticed an even worse variant of that:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/5/AAelttAAEiuL.jpg

Karovorak posted...

Believe it or not, on my way home I just noticed an even worse variant of that:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/5/AAelttAAEiuL.jpg

i actually like this one more cause it's starting to pass the threshold of being so chaotic and overdesigned that it becomes charming again

I believe that's the intersex flag. Again, it is distinct from the trans flag since sex =/= gender and someone can be intersex but also cis, trans, or nonbinary as well as straight, gay, or bi.

I believe there have been attempts at queer flags that encompass all groups with colors and symbolism beyond superimposing their flags over other flags, but none have really caught on.

ZMythos posted...

I believe there have been attempts at queer flags that encompass all groups with colors and symbolism beyond superimposing their flags over other flags, but none have really caught on.

there is one for that already
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/0/AAZddOAAEiuQ.png

ZMythos posted...

I believe that's the intersex flag. Again, it is distinct from the trans flag since sex =/= gender and someone can be intersex but also cis, trans, or nonbinary as well as straight, gay, or bi.

I believe there have been attempts at queer flags that encompass all groups with colors and symbolism beyond superimposing their flags over other flags, but none have really caught on.

I mean, that was the point of the original rainbowflag from the beginning.

It was always a symbol of diversity, not of being gay, straight or bi.

Not entirely, the original rainbow flag had each color assigned to a specific meaning, but not "inclusivity" or all LGBT+ groups lumped together. Even then the modern rainbow flag has been most closely tied to lesbian and gay people throughout its history.

I like the new design.

ZMythos posted...

Not really, the original rainbow flag had each color assigned to a specific meaning, but not "inclusivity" or all LGBT+ groups lumped together. Even then the modern rainbow flag has been most closely tied to lesbian and gay people throughout its history.

Isn't that the point?

Not a single color of the rainbow flag was about sexuality, gender or any other personal attribute at all.

I guess what I'm saying is that throughout its history, the rainbow flag has almost always been most closely associated with gay people, which is why other flags like the trans flag are deliberately displayed alongside it (or in this case, within it).

The transgender portion of the flag does kind of undermine its meaning. The white field should be between the blue and pink fields like it is on the standalone flag.

I actually forgot about the white field (I could only remember it had soft pink and soft blue fields) so that's why I ended up asking that question from earlier.

I like it

It's vibrant, and it's instantly recognizable.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/5/AAegNYAADgcx.jpg

YourBestFrenemy posted...

It's vibrant, and it's instantly recognizable.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/5/AAegNYAADgcx.jpg

Yes! Im not a big flag person either, but I enjoy seeing this one.