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St0rmFury
05/31/23 9:15:59 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/RelayForReddit/comments/13wsn92/guess_this_is_also_the_death_of_relay/

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/13wxepd/rif_dev_here_reddits_api_changes_will_likely_kill/

tl;dr: Reddit is charging mind boggling prices for their API requests and any 3rd party apps you are using to browse Reddit is basically SOL.

I've been using Relay for years.

Fuck this.

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What is API?

The 3rd party app developer in the second link included an analogy at the end of his announcement.

(For the uninitiated wondering "what the heck is an API anyway and why is this so important?" it's just a fancy term for a way to access a site's information ("Application Programming Interface"). As an analogy, think of Reddit having a bouncer, and since day one that bouncer has been friendly, where if you ask "Hey, can you list out the comments for me for post X?" the bouncer would happily respond with what you requested, provided you didn't ask so often that it was silly. That's the Reddit API: I ask Reddit/the bouncer for some data, and it provides it so I can display it in my app for users. The proposed changes mean the bouncer will still exist, but now ask an exorbitant amount per question.)

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SSJKirby
05/31/23 9:16:55 PM
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As someone who isn't affected at all, I'm sorry for your loss

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Jagr_68
05/31/23 9:17:16 PM
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Explain to casual reddit users plz

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R1masher
05/31/23 9:17:24 PM
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Wow, just wow

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ironman2009
05/31/23 9:17:34 PM
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I kinda get it on reddit side. Ppl are getting paid to link to reddit more efficiently and reddit doesn't get the money. Shitty but obvious.

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Solar_Crimson
05/31/23 9:17:58 PM
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No doubt a way to get around people trying to circumvent their ads or some shit.

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MICHALECOLE
05/31/23 9:18:41 PM
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Can you explain what API requests are for the other users? I know what it is, but just in case they dont can you explain it?
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Punished_Blinx
05/31/23 9:22:13 PM
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I use Relay for Reddit all the time. That sucks.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/31/23 9:22:51 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Can you explain what API requests are for the other users? I know what it is, but just in case they dont can you explain it?

It's basically their communication protocols so you can connect a 3rd party app to the site instead of having to use their platform.

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St0rmFury
05/31/23 9:23:04 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Can you explain what API requests are for the other users? I know what it is, but just in case they dont can you explain it?
The 3rd party app developer included this at the end of his announcement.

(For the uninitiated wondering "what the heck is an API anyway and why is this so important?" it's just a fancy term for a way to access a site's information ("Application Programming Interface"). As an analogy, think of Reddit having a bouncer, and since day one that bouncer has been friendly, where if you ask "Hey, can you list out the comments for me for post X?" the bouncer would happily respond with what you requested, provided you didn't ask so often that it was silly. That's the Reddit API: I ask Reddit/the bouncer for some data, and it provides it so I can display it in my app for users. The proposed changes mean the bouncer will still exist, but now ask an exorbitant amount per question.)

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
05/31/23 9:23:22 PM
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I wish the default app wasnt so garbage

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ironman2009
05/31/23 9:24:08 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Killing competition is seemingly easier unfortunately

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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/31/23 9:25:44 PM
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Or they could tell them to fuck off.
It's reasonable to charge if they're circumventing your ad revenue.
They gotta make money some how.

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CSCA33
05/31/23 9:26:00 PM
#15:


The Reddit app works just fine. You have to scroll past ads between posts sometimes, I dont even bother reading them.

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Alteres
05/31/23 10:04:00 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
The Reddit app works just fine. You have to scroll past ads between posts sometimes, I dont even bother reading them.
The app blows ass monkeys on mobile

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MICHALECOLE
05/31/23 10:32:49 PM
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Idk I like the app, I dont see any problems with it
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PeteyParker
05/31/23 10:38:03 PM
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I use Apollo instead of the main Reddit app, so this will suck if it happens.

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pegusus123456
05/31/23 10:38:31 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
The Reddit app works just fine. You have to scroll past ads between posts sometimes, I dont even bother reading them.

MICHALECOLE posted...
Idk I like the app, I dont see any problems with it
I thought this until I used redditisfun. The app is fucking awful comparatively.

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Questionmarktarius
05/31/23 10:40:47 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The not-old reddit is mostly a JS app that can't be scraped via cURL. I don't think that's an accident.
I expect old.reddit to get shitcanned sometime soon.
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ChocoboMogALT
05/31/23 10:44:42 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The not-old reddit is mostly a JS app that can't be scraped via cURL. I don't think that's an accident.
I expect old.reddit to get shitcanned sometime soon.
Yup. That'll be the last day for reddit for me.
Old.reddit >>> shitty reddit app
I've tried RIF, is better than the reddit app, but If rather just use a browser.

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radical_rhino
05/31/23 10:48:01 PM
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The mobile website is great. The mobile app is shit.

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LeCh0nk
05/31/23 10:51:38 PM
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This this mean we'll get less of these shitty "news" articles rehashing a reddit thread?

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Kombucha
05/31/23 10:51:50 PM
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I actually paid for a lifetime sub to Apollo, but I stopped using iOS so this is mostly inconsequential.

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Questionmarktarius
05/31/23 10:53:11 PM
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LeCh0nk posted...
This this mean we'll get less of these shitty "news" articles rehashing a reddit thread?
If we could also get rid of tweets posing as news, that would be great too.

Yes, I know posting "actual article URL" is obnoxious, but piss off.
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Solar_Crimson
05/31/23 10:58:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I expect old.reddit to get shitcanned sometime soon.
Yep. The new interface is slow, clunky, and cramped. I hate it, and a lot of people seem to feel the same way, but while they say they have no plans to dump it, I expect those plans to change soon, especially once they go public.

radical_rhino posted...
The mobile website is great. The mobile app is shit.
The mobile website absolutely is not great. It's slow and constantly bugs you to install the app.

The previous compact interface was much better for mobile, but they got rid of that recently.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/31/23 10:59:35 PM
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Apollo is the main method I use Reddit on my phone. When they kill third party apps, I just wont be able to use Reddit on my phone anymore I guess
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CommonStar
05/31/23 11:01:11 PM
#29:


The Relay app on mobile is so much better than the Reddit app.
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Kombucha
05/31/23 11:01:58 PM
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CommonStar posted...
The Relay app on mobile is so much better than the Reddit app.

It can't be better if it doesn't exist though!

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Kombucha
05/31/23 11:02:16 PM
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Reddit is genius

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Tyranthraxus
05/31/23 11:08:30 PM
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Oh well I guess I just won't just Reddit as much anymore. Have to wait for someone to come out with a scrape-based app like NewPipe.

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CSCA33
05/31/23 11:28:36 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I thought this until I used redditisfun. The app is fucking awful comparatively.
Yeah, Ive heard third party apps are better for browsing reddit before, just never got around to downloading one. Im a pretty casual user I guess.

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TendoDRM
05/31/23 11:32:05 PM
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I use Joey currently and Sync in the past. If this kills 3rd party reddit apps, I'll probably just stop using reddit.

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St0rmFury
06/01/23 6:35:37 AM
#35:


Share my rage, CE

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deoxxys
06/01/23 6:40:17 AM
#36:


I don't want any apps for using Reddit. Usually when I submit upon a thread I wanna read, I'm on a browser. Stupid Reddit always bugging me to get the app and sometimes it doesn't let skip the notification because iT mIgHt bE dangerous.

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BigB0ss13
06/01/23 6:42:37 AM
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I heard the official reddit app can do some shit to your phones and reddit would know some stuff more than they should so never download the reddit app. Just go use reddit on your browser and use private features so they cant further collect shit from you
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indica
06/01/23 6:44:08 AM
#38:


deoxxys posted...
I don't want any apps for using Reddit. Usually when I submit upon a thread I wanna read, I'm on a browser. Stupid Reddit always bugging me to get the app and sometimes it doesn't let skip the notification because iT mIgHt bE dangerous.
This. I don't get why people download apps that work worse or have less features than the already existing website? Like, Amazon's app is fucking awful...

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Memorial_Bench
06/01/23 6:47:22 AM
#39:


This is the pushshift stuff right? It died a few days ago.

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Hornezz
06/01/23 7:10:39 AM
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I've been using Relay as well. Zero interest in downloading the official one.

The worst part is how coy Reddit is about this. The obvious goal here is to kill off third party apps by making them too expensive to be feasible, but they refuse to admit that and just pretend this is a reasonable price increase.

I guess web scraping is back on the menu.

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Left4Doge
06/01/23 9:31:54 AM
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The official app is dogshit. Maybe if they made it usable people wouldnt flock to 3rd party ones. If Appollo is dead then I guess I cant browse Reddit on my phone anymore. If they force you to use new Reddit on desktop then idk if Ill stop using the site.

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NightRender
06/01/23 6:33:44 PM
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Being a product manager for a tech company must be exhausting. At other publicly-traded, for-profit companies that sell physical goods the mission statement is "how can I make the product better so we can take more people's money" It's fatalistically capitalist, but sometimes things aren't terrible.

But for tech companies it uniformly seems to be "how can I make the product worse, while still taking the same or more of the consumers' money"

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Starks
06/01/23 6:34:55 PM
#43:


Relay is the only thing that makes mobile Reddit tolerable.

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FL81
06/03/23 1:03:50 AM
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I just hope that Teddit and Libreddit will continue to work after these changes.

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Questionmarktarius
06/03/23 1:11:02 AM
#46:


There may be a dead simple way around this, but I don't care enough to try it myself.
Sites like reddit are cripplingly dependent on google for traffic, so impersonating googlebot may get a scrapable version of the site.
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St0rmFury
06/04/23 1:08:25 PM
#47:


https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/13zqcua/rvideos_will_be_going_dark_from_june_1214_in/

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pegusus123456
06/04/23 3:55:14 PM
#48:


Apparently it's not just third-party apps, a lot of reddit mods also use scripts that rely on the API.

Also the bot commenters like BobbyB on r/freefolk, but I'm not quite as broken up about that.

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voldothegr8
06/04/23 7:21:45 PM
#49:


The drama is juicy!

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TheMikh
06/04/23 7:27:17 PM
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this is what happens when you depend on data silos you don't control

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