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wackyteen 05/28/23 3:34:29 PM #1:	Do you? Yes, I refuse Yes, I prefer to do things legitimately unless the game is seriously trolling me Depends on the game type, others though free-reign Not really, I ain't got time to dump hours trying to get RNG to favor me No, the game wants to play dumb, I'll play smart Other Do you? - Results (66 votes) Yes, I refuse 1.52% (1 vote) 1 Yes, I prefer to do things legitimately unless the game is seriously trolling me 7.58% (5 votes) 5 Depends on the game type, others though free-reign 22.73% (15 votes) 15 Not really, I ain't got time to dump hours trying to get RNG to favor me 37.88% (25 votes) 25 No, the game wants to play dumb, I'll play smart 28.79% (19 votes) 19 Other 1.52% (1 vote) 1 When the option to save/load whenever/wherever is present and you can use that to your advantage to tip the scales in your favor, do you use it? --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:973773573] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote> Do you? Yes, I refuse Yes, I prefer to do things legitimately unless the game is seriously trolling me Depends on the game type, others though free-reign Not really, I ain't got time to dump hours trying to get RNG to favor me No, the game wants to play dumb, I'll play smart Other Vote View Results Do you? - Results (66 votes) Yes, I refuse 1.52% (1 vote) 1 Yes, I prefer to do things legitimately unless the game is seriously trolling me 7.58% (5 votes) 5 Depends on the game type, others though free-reign 22.73% (15 votes) 15 Not really, I ain't got time to dump hours trying to get RNG to favor me 37.88% (25 votes) 25 No, the game wants to play dumb, I'll play smart 28.79% (19 votes) 19 Other 1.52% (1 vote) 1 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80458708', message: '0', key: '6cef6357' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } When the option to save/load whenever/wherever is present and you can use that to your advantage to tip the scales in your favor, do you use it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 05/28/23 3:35:27 PM #2:	I love it. I play games to have fun, and if RNG is a bitch i will break it. --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:973773592] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I love it.I play games to have fun, and if RNG is a bitch i will break it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 05/28/23 3:35:38 PM #3:	No. A lot of portions in games can be obtuse or just a pain in the ass and I don't blame people for circumventing them. Especially given save scumming is just a regular part of a game. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:973773599] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>No. A lot of portions in games can be obtuse or just a pain in the ass and I don't blame people for circumventing them. Especially given save scumming is just a regular part of a game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/28/23 3:35:41 PM #4:	There's no such thing as "unfair advantage" in a single-player game. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973773601] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>There's no such thing as "unfair advantage" in a single-player game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 05/28/23 3:35:42 PM #5:	Nah Let people play the game however they want. I don't give a shit. --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:973773602] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>NahLet people play the game however they want. I don't give a shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 05/28/23 3:36:57 PM #6:	Depends on the game. I've played games I savescummed, but I also played x-com on Ironman mode. --- When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:973773638] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the game. I've played games I savescummed, but I also played x-com on Ironman mode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 05/28/23 3:37:10 PM #7:	I admit I do, especially when there's a fork in the story, so I can play both options. --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:973773643] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I admit I do, especially when there's a fork in the story, so I can play both options.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/28/23 3:38:13 PM #8:	TyVulpine posted... I admit I do, especially when there's a fork in the story, so I can play both options. That's not save scumming though. Save scumming would be you're being trolled by a boss but you can save after every attack so you load until the boss misses its OP attack or something along those lines --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:973773661] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>I admit I do, especially when there's a fork in the story, so I can play both options.</quote>That's not save scumming though.Save scumming would be you're being trolled by a boss but you can save after every attack so you load until the boss misses its OP attack or something along those lines</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 05/28/23 3:38:39 PM #9:	wackyteen posted... That's not save scumming though. Save scumming would be you're being trolled by a boss but you can save after every attack so you load until the boss misses its OP attack or something along those lines Yeah, I do that too. Also, it is. The Wii, Wii U and Switch Virtual Consoles use save states (with no restrictions on reloading). --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:973773670] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>That's not save scumming though.Save scumming would be you're being trolled by a boss but you can save after every attack so you load until the boss misses its OP attack or something along those lines</quote>Yeah, I do that too.Also, it is. The Wii, Wii U and Switch Virtual Consoles use save states (with no restrictions on reloading).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vokrent 05/28/23 3:42:01 PM #10:	how much is save scumming recommended in XCOM:EW? RNG apparently gets pretty wild in that? --- Damned if I do, damned if I don't, damned if I will, damned if I won't, Doomed if I try, doomed if I fail, damn you all to hell. <cite>Vokrent posted [p:973773748] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>how much is save scumming recommended in XCOM:EW?RNG apparently gets pretty wild in that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Popo 05/28/23 3:43:02 PM #11:	I dont do it, but I dont have any issues with others doing it. Just do what you gotta do to have fun. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:973773775] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I dont do it, but I dont have any issues with others doing it. Just do what you gotta do to have fun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Powdered_Toast 05/28/23 3:44:14 PM #12:	I do it but I think it's kinda bad. It can get to the point where you're doing it so much, it's like "why am I even playing this." Or you quicksave in a bad position, but are too stubborn to reload an older save. Some games like the old Fallouts were just stupid with some of their mechanics though, save scumming both breaks the games and is the only reasonable option for some stuff. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! <cite>Powdered_Toast posted [p:973773796] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I do it but I think it's kinda bad. It can get to the point where you're doing it so much, it's like "why am I even playing this." Or you quicksave in a bad position, but are too stubborn to reload an older save. Some games like the old Fallouts were just stupid with some of their mechanics though, save scumming both breaks the games and is the only reasonable option for some stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Requiem 05/28/23 3:49:40 PM #13:	Vokrent posted... how much is save scumming recommended in XCOM:EW? RNG apparently gets pretty wild in that? None (or I guess very minimal), since dealing with wild rng is part of the game. I admit I did rng save scumming for Larian games... mostly because their drops (even boss loots) are randomized (and it's not like you can farm in Larian games). --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex <cite>Requiem posted [p:973773893] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>Vokrent posted... </cite><quote>how much is save scumming recommended in XCOM:EW?RNG apparently gets pretty wild in that?</quote>None (or I guess very minimal), since dealing with wild rng is part of the game.I admit I did rng save scumming for Larian games... mostly because their drops (even boss loots) are randomized (and it's not like you can farm in Larian games). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 05/28/23 3:53:31 PM #14:	I'll play my games in whatever way gives me the most enjoyment. Sometimes that involves abusing saves, sometimes it doesn't. My game, so I'll please myself. --- (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang <cite>ai123 posted [p:973773951] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I'll play my games in whatever way gives me the most enjoyment. Sometimes that involves abusing saves, sometimes it doesn't. My game, so I'll please myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/28/23 3:58:14 PM #15:	Powdered_Toast posted... I do it but I think it's kinda bad. It can get to the point where you're doing it so much, it's like "why am I even playing this." I'm almost to this point with Pokemon Stadium. I haven't even gotten to Round 2 but being stuck with Rental Pokemon and no way to level match the fucking Pokemon that are 5 levels over you is bullshit <_< I've spent over an hour on this one fucking Wrap Tentacruel trying to luck out with RNG. Doesn't help that the joycons are fucking dog shit and I'll hit left but it registers up. And if shit like that doesn't happen, attacks will just miss because Gen 1 1/256 bullshit (or normally but I've yet to see the AI miss a fucking Fire Blast) I have no absolutely no issues with save scumming this fuck shit. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:973774028] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>Powdered_Toast posted... </cite><quote>I do it but I think it's kinda bad. It can get to the point where you're doing it so much, it's like "why am I even playing this."</quote>I'm almost to this point with Pokemon Stadium.I haven't even gotten to Round 2 but being stuck with Rental Pokemon and no way to level match the fucking Pokemon that are 5 levels over you is bullshit <_<I've spent over an hour on this one fucking Wrap Tentacruel trying to luck out with RNG. Doesn't help that the joycons are fucking dog shit and I'll hit left but it registers up. And if shit like that doesn't happen, attacks will just miss because Gen 1 1/256 bullshit (or normally but I've yet to see the AI miss a fucking Fire Blast)I have no absolutely no issues with save scumming this fuck shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vokrent 05/28/23 4:00:43 PM #16:	Requiem posted... None (or I guess very minimal), since dealing with wild rng is part of the game. I admit I did rng save scumming for Larian games... mostly because their drops (even boss loots) are randomized (and it's not like you can farm in Larian games). oh i have a mod for D:OS2 that all creatures drop their entire loot pool to avoid having to scum for good gear --- Damned if I do, damned if I don't, damned if I will, damned if I won't, Doomed if I try, doomed if I fail, damn you all to hell. <cite>Vokrent posted [p:973774072] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>Requiem posted... </cite><quote>None (or I guess very minimal), since dealing with wild rng is part of the game.I admit I did rng save scumming for Larian games... mostly because their drops (even boss loots) are randomized (and it's not like you can farm in Larian games).</quote>oh i have a mod for D:OS2 that all creatures drop their entire loot pool to avoid having to scum for good gear</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 05/28/23 4:02:01 PM #17:	I couldn't get through the original NES TMNT game without save states --- Steam wishlist- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198354198646/#sort=order <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:973774093] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I couldn't get through the original NES TMNT game without save states</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 05/28/23 4:45:35 PM #18:	AlCalavicci posted... I couldn't get through the original NES TMNT game without save states We had that back on the original NES. I could get to the hallway just before Shredder, but always got killed there, and it was always with Donnie, so just quit at that point, because there are no checkpoints in the last level... --- Dream Address DA-6517-3174-1702 <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:973774945] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>AlCalavicci posted... </cite><quote>I couldn't get through the original NES TMNT game without save states</quote>We had that back on the original NES. I could get to the hallway just before Shredder, but always got killed there, and it was always with Donnie, so just quit at that point, because there are no checkpoints in the last level...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 05/28/23 4:53:08 PM #20:	nope --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:973775074] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 05/28/23 5:05:09 PM #21:	Questionmarktarius posted... There's no such thing as "unfair advantage" in a single-player game. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:973775287] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>There's no such thing as "unfair advantage" in a single-player game.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/28/23 5:05:45 PM #22:	I save scum like a motherfucker --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:973775296] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>I save scum like a motherfucker</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 05/28/23 5:08:22 PM #23:	No, always save scum Never not save scum --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:973775336] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>No, always save scumNever not save scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 05/28/23 5:11:38 PM #24:	TyVulpine posted... We had that back on the original NES. I could get to the hallway just before Shredder, but always got killed there, and it was always with Donnie, so just quit at that point, because there are no checkpoints in the last level... I had it too. I never got past the Dam. It wasn't until Cowabunga Collection that I actually beat the game thanks to save states lol That hallway before Shredder is insane --- Steam wishlist- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198354198646/#sort=order <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:973775390] in Do you obj... [t:80458708]...</cite> <quote>TyVulpine posted... </cite><quote>We had that back on the original NES. I could get to the hallway just before Shredder, but always got killed there, and it was always with Donnie, so just quit at that point, because there are no checkpoints in the last level...</quote>I had it too. I never got past the Dam.It wasn't until Cowabunga Collection that I actually beat the game thanks to save states lolThat hallway before Shredder is insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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