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BlackOmnimon
05/26/23 3:50:26 PM
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They should bring back turn based or an hybrid like FFXII.

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DarkRoast
05/26/23 3:51:06 PM
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Well now I'm interested

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PerseusRad
05/26/23 3:54:23 PM
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I dont care for FFXIIs combat whatsoever. Still feel like X has the best combat, has a good use for the Agility stat, and doesnt use ATB. I wouldnt really mind FF having action combat if it was implemented closer to KH. FFXVs magic system and hold to attack felt like jokes.

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BakonBitz
05/26/23 3:57:43 PM
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Feels like a topic that should've been made two years ago.

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Samurai_Man
05/26/23 3:59:05 PM
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People haven't realized STILL FF isn't going back to turn-based?

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BakonBitz
05/26/23 4:05:04 PM
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Samurai_Man posted...
People haven't realized STILL FF isn't going back to turn-based?
As much as I understand the sentiment...yeah, the series really isn't gonna go back to full turn-based. Best to just move on to indies or other smaller RPGs Square-Enix publishes.

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MJOLNRVII
05/26/23 4:06:09 PM
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There's nothing to bring back since Square Enix still makes turn based games, but no one buys them so here we are.

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loafy013
05/26/23 4:12:26 PM
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PerseusRad posted...
I dont care for FFXIIs combat whatsoever
Thank you. I sometimes felt like I was the only one that hated it. Maybe because I played Rogue Galaxy first and had fun with that. FF12 seemed like it didn't know whether it wanted to be action or turn based so they somehow screwed up both. I played FFXI for over a decade because I had fun. FF12 was the first FF I never bothered to finish.

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itachi15243
05/26/23 4:14:53 PM
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No because the combat has me more excited

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meralonne
05/26/23 4:15:57 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Well now I'm interested


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voldothegr8
05/26/23 4:16:26 PM
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MJOLNRVII posted...
There's nothing to bring back since Square Enix still makes turn based games, but no one buys them so here we are.
Last I checked DQ still sells like hotcakes

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SpiritSephiroth
05/26/23 4:18:21 PM
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Imagine condensing the identity of a decades old franchise to turn based combat.

At least that's what a lot of people are doing now. It's a shame.

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SSJKirby
05/26/23 4:22:21 PM
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loafy013 posted...
FF12 seemed like it didn't know whether it wanted to be action or turn based so they somehow screwed up both.
It plays like a classic crpg like Baldur's Gate

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Sufferedphoneix
05/26/23 4:24:48 PM
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PerseusRad posted...
I dont care for FFXIIs combat whatsoever. Still feel like X has the best combat, has a good use for the Agility stat, and doesnt use ATB. I wouldnt really mind FF having action combat if it was implemented closer to KH. FFXVs magic system and hold to attack felt like jokes.

I prefer the hold for combat. It's not like attacking the enemies where based on timing hits right so all its doing is making it so you don't have to press thr button as much.

I've played a few games recently god of war comes to mind where you have the option to change button mashing qte moments into a button hold. I do it everytime cause I feel it's better on my controller.

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PerseusRad
05/26/23 4:32:39 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
I prefer the hold for combat. It's not like attacking the enemies where based on timing hits right so all its doing is making it so you don't have to press thr button as much.

I've played a few games recently god of war comes to mind where you have the option to change button mashing qte moments into a button hold. I do it everytime cause I feel it's better on my controller.
I guess I dont mind it in theory, but I like action games where timing matters more. Like Kingdom Hearts is a relatively easy game, but theres still timing involved in the games, to a point.

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Sufferedphoneix
05/26/23 4:33:35 PM
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PerseusRad posted...
I guess I dont mind it in theory, but I like action games where timing matters more. Like Kingdom Hearts is a relatively easy game, but theres still timing involved in the games, to a point.

Think it's still trying to be a jrpg at heart where it's about stats not skills

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Xenogears15
05/26/23 4:35:05 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
Think it's still trying to be a jrpg at heart where it's about stats not skills

Based on what I saw in the trailers, skills seem to matter a whooooooole lot, though.

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Sufferedphoneix
05/26/23 4:38:02 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Based on what I saw in the trailers, skills seem to matter a whooooooole lot, though.

Not really. It's a fairly easy game. I mean I've died but I'm hard headed all offense no defense kinda person. The main thing that requires timing is dodges iirc.

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FF_Redux
05/26/23 4:38:47 PM
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Its the game that wants me to buy PS5.

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loafy013
05/26/23 4:41:06 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
It plays like a classic crpg like Baldur's Gate
I think it just threw me off that hitting attack still had to wait to execute while I could still freely move about. Why I preferred how they handled it in FFXI. Once you are in combat, your character auto-attacks but spells and abilities took time to execute, so 12 felt like a step backwards.

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Xenogears15
05/26/23 4:51:31 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
Not really. It's a fairly easy game. I mean I've died but I'm hard headed all offense no defense kinda person. The main thing that requires timing is dodges iirc.

How do you know if it's a fairly easy game if even the demo hasn't been released?

Also, I meant gameplay footage, not trailers. My bad.

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Rise_Makaveli
05/26/23 4:53:07 PM
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I thought it was more Kingdom hearts than Bayonetta like from the trailers. Which is great and its about damn time.

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BunkerBoy
05/26/23 5:18:49 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
How do you know if it's a fairly easy game if even the demo hasn't been released?

Also, I meant gameplay footage, not trailers. My bad.
Maybe that poster meant Bayonetta
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Sufferedphoneix
05/26/23 6:06:55 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
How do you know if it's a fairly easy game if even the demo hasn't been released?

Also, I meant gameplay footage, not trailers. My bad.

Oh thought we where still talking 15. My bad

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