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TaylorHeinicke
05/18/23 4:47:31 PM
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Tony interrupts Rhodes while he's addressing a group of pilots. He says "hey everyone, be sure to ask him about spring break 1987. What was his name again?"

Something like that.

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Were_Wyrm
05/18/23 4:48:08 PM
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That movie could never be made today

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s0nicfan
05/18/23 4:48:26 PM
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Why do you think this is a trans joke and not a gay joke?

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DementedDurian
05/18/23 4:49:31 PM
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...I don't get it...

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Were_Wyrm
05/18/23 4:53:15 PM
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The full joke

speaking about manned or unmanned, you gotta get him to tell you about the time he guessed wrong. Its spring break, just remember that. Spring break 1987, that lovely lady, what was his name? Was it Ivan?

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EndOfDiscOne
05/18/23 4:59:04 PM
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Hopefully it gets edited out of the streaming version

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Irony
05/18/23 4:59:32 PM
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Why do people think that this is a joke that has anything to do with gender or sexual orientation

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TonyKojima
05/18/23 5:01:22 PM
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I remember a few years ago Obsidian put in a transphobic joke in Pillars of Eternity.

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Irony
05/18/23 5:02:13 PM
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I'm surprised you even remember that a joke was in that game considering 90% of the dialogue is dribbling exposition

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Nok_Su_Kow
05/18/23 5:06:03 PM
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Ohh, yeah. Different times.
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CSCA33
05/18/23 5:07:40 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Hopefully it gets edited out of the streaming version


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Nemu
05/18/23 5:08:18 PM
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Seems like more of a gay joke, assuming Ivan is supposed to be one of those stereotype gay crossdressing prostitutes.
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Ragnarider
05/18/23 5:09:20 PM
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There's also a joke in the Simpsons Japan episode which is pretty bad.
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CSCA33
05/18/23 5:15:35 PM
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Nemu posted...
Seems like more of a gay joke, assuming Ivan is supposed to be one of those stereotype gay crossdressing prostitutes.
No its perpetuating a dangerously harmful and false stereotype used against trans people (four letter t-slur)

also used as a basis for the trans panic defense to get away with murder

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Ragnarider
05/18/23 5:16:50 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
No its perpetuating a dangerously harmful and false stereotype used against trans people (four letter t-slur)

Isn't it 6 letters? Or is there another one?
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ZEROWOLF
05/18/23 5:16:56 PM
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"It don't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!"

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refmon
05/18/23 5:17:12 PM
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Irony posted...
Why do people think that this is a joke that has anything to do with gender or sexual orientation


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s0nicfan
05/18/23 5:17:17 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
Isn't it 6 letters? Or is there another one?

trap.

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Ragnarider
05/18/23 5:17:55 PM
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ah right
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CSCA33
05/18/23 5:17:55 PM
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Ragnarider posted...
Isn't it 6 letters? Or is there another one?
This is the other t-slur, popularized by admiral ackbar meme and used for the trans panic defense to get away with murder

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Bass_X0
05/18/23 5:21:01 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
That movie could never be made today

No movie with humour in it older than ten years ago could be made today.

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Lairen
05/18/23 5:21:45 PM
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All jokes are offensive if not taken as a joke. Ban jokes.

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Foppe
05/18/23 5:22:09 PM
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Imaginate Soul Man being made today.

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Nemu
05/18/23 5:23:35 PM
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CSCA33 posted...
No its perpetuating a dangerously harmful and false stereotype used against trans people (four letter t-slur)

also used as a basis for the trans panic defense to get away with murder
Its not impossible to read it like that, but I see it more in the idea that he ended up with a prostitute, and they learned the next day that the prostitute was actually a guy. Assuming that it is supposed to be a representation of a factual event, hard to imagine them finding out the guys name otherwise.
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Ryven
05/18/23 5:23:58 PM
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Imagine if Scream 5 was made today.

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s0nicfan
05/18/23 5:24:46 PM
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Nemu posted...
Its not impossible to read it like that, but I see it more in the idea that he ended up with a prostitute, and they learned the next day that the prostitute was actually a guy. Assuming that it is supposed to be a representation of a factual event, hard to imagine them finding out the guys name otherwise.

If it was spring break, it could also just be that he was wasted and went up to a woman to hit on her but when they turned around it was just a guy with long hair.

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CSCA33
05/18/23 5:32:23 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If it was spring break, it could also just be that he was wasted and went up to a woman to hit on her but when they turned around it was just a guy with long hair.
Although it was relatively ambiguous, thats a much less likely inference when the implication was obvious. Thats also not really note worthy enough in the context this ribbing was done in comparison, and reads more like fanfic level personal head canon.

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deoxxys
05/18/23 5:33:20 PM
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Less of a joke and more of a roast.

Guys harp on each other constantly, basically saying: "haha you're gay" or "haha you like dick".

When I run into somebody who's legitimately homophobic, I tell them "Hey it's not so much of a bad thing is it? After all of that's less competition for straight guys".

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CSCA33
05/18/23 5:37:33 PM
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Nemu posted...
Its not impossible to read it like that, but I see it more in the idea that he ended up with a prostitute, and they learned the next day that the prostitute was actually a guy. Assuming that it is supposed to be a representation of a factual event, hard to imagine them finding out the guys name otherwise.
This assumes cross dressers (or trans people for that matter) are trying to trick people about their gender, which again speaks straight to the trans panic defense

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creativerealms
05/18/23 5:38:46 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
No movie with humour in it older than ten years ago could be made today.
Bullshit.

"Can't be made today" is a load of bull.

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Priere
05/18/23 5:39:27 PM
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Wow. RDJ doing blackface and trans joke and he's STILL non canceled?

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creativerealms
05/18/23 5:40:16 PM
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Priere posted...
Wow. RDJ doing blackface and trans joke and he's STILL non canceled?
Because "cancelled" isn't real.

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Foppe
05/18/23 5:42:21 PM
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Johnny Depp wasnt dropped by everybody now?

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rexcrk
05/18/23 5:44:30 PM
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Amazing how things have changed in a relatively short time.

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Bass_X0
05/18/23 5:50:04 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Bullshit.

"Can't be made today" is a load of bull.

Well, they could but they backlash from people today would be louder, more numerous and a lot more damaging even if it did not receive any backlash originally.

The first Spider-Man movie features a phobic line that would get Twitter riled up if the line were used in a modern movie.

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