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MysteryMan923
05/16/23 4:07:09 PM
#1:


If Elder Kai unlocked all of Gohan's latent potential how could he ascend even higher to Beast? Also, how come Goku/Vegeta never went to Elder Kai to unlock their potential?

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sabin017
05/16/23 4:25:59 PM
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It's a point in time unlock, not a persistent one.

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Irony
05/16/23 4:26:14 PM
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Stop asking questions

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A_Good_Boy
05/16/23 4:28:00 PM
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Don't think too hard about Dragon Ball Super, it's not worth the effort.

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Squall28
05/16/23 4:28:09 PM
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I love dragon ball but it's stupid AF.

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TMOG
05/16/23 4:29:24 PM
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The same way that Guru already unlocked Gohan's potential before the Elder Kai did

Gohan's entire character arc is having his potential unlocked and then doing absolutely fucking nothing with it
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TMOG
05/16/23 4:32:32 PM
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Also, in the manga version of the arc, Krillin gets his ass absolutely fucking destroyed by a robot bee. Not a giant robot bee or a humanoid robot bee. Just a regular bee-sized robot bee, no lasers or anything. Completely fucking schooled.
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GrandConjuraton
05/16/23 4:42:24 PM
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Your mistake is expecting even halfway decent writing from Toriyama.

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Holy_Cloud105
05/16/23 4:46:54 PM
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They say potential isn't static and just keeps increasing as they get older. Gohan is abnormal and has more potential than everyone in his late 20s than Goku and Vegeta do in their 40s.

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HudGard
05/16/23 4:48:24 PM
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The essence of the media is there will always be a way to get stronger. Logic be damned.

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Sir_Will
05/16/23 4:48:52 PM
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TMOG posted...
Also, in the manga version of the arc, Krillin gets his ass absolutely fucking destroyed by a robot bee. Not a giant robot bee or a humanoid robot bee. Just a regular bee-sized robot bee, no lasers or anything. Completely fucking schooled.
WTF?

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MysteryMan923
05/16/23 4:51:05 PM
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TMOG posted...
The same way that Guru already unlocked Gohan's potential before the Elder Kai did

Gohan's entire character arc is having his potential unlocked and then doing absolutely fucking nothing with it

I just assumed Guru wasn't as good at it since he's not a God/witch.

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ViewtifulJoe
05/16/23 4:52:51 PM
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TMOG posted...
Also, in the manga version of the arc, Krillin gets his ass absolutely fucking destroyed by a robot bee. Not a giant robot bee or a humanoid robot bee. Just a regular bee-sized robot bee, no lasers or anything. Completely fucking schooled.
Is this that much different to Damon from U4 in the ToP?

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DarkChozoGhost
05/16/23 4:53:42 PM
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Sir_Will posted...
WTF?
He's lying because he's one of those guys that literally fetishises Krillen hate. Krillin gets knocked down into some bushes by the bee when it suddenly activates a rocket and goes way faster that it had previously. This causes him to lose track of the car he was tailing.

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A_Good_Boy
05/16/23 4:54:06 PM
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MysteryMan923 posted...
I just assumed Guru wasn't as good at it since he's not a God/witch.
Gods keep on using the dragon balls, so Namekians have to be really good at all the magic shit they do.

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TMOG
05/16/23 5:13:04 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
He's lying because he's one of those guys that literally fetishises Krillen hate. Krillin gets knocked down into some bushes by the bee when it suddenly activates a rocket and goes way faster that it had previously. This causes him to lose track of the car he was tailing.
No, no I'm not.

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-91/chapter/26474

Pages 18-27 are the bee fight.

And saying "oh he only lost because the bee activates a rocket and moves faster" still doesn't look good on somebody who can perceive movement at the speed of fucking sound

Should also add that this isn't "fetishizing Krillin hate". It's pointing out how fucking stupid the Krillin vs. Bee fight was, because there's no way in HFIL that Krillin shouldn't have been able to destroy that bee. If anybody is guilty of Krillin hate it's Toriyama for handling the fight the way he did.
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A_Good_Boy
05/16/23 5:31:48 PM
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TMOG posted...
No, no I'm not.

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dragon-ball-super-chapter-91/chapter/26474

Pages 18-27 are the bee fight.

And saying "oh he only lost because the bee activates a rocket and moves faster" still doesn't look good on somebody who can perceive movement at the speed of fucking sound

Should also add that this isn't "fetishizing Krillin hate". It's pointing out how fucking stupid the Krillin vs. Bee fight was, because there's no way in HFIL that Krillin shouldn't have been able to destroy that bee. If anybody is guilty of Krillin hate it's Toriyama for handling the fight the way he did.
If this guy was capable of creating an android stronger than Broly then it's not too farfetched that he can create a bee drone strong enough to give Krillin a run for his money. Even Dr. Gero was talented enough to create an imperceptible fly drone able to stealthily gather DNA from various aliens and z-fighters while they were mid combat.

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TMOG
05/16/23 5:34:17 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Even Dr. Gero was talented enough to create an imperceptible fly drone able to stealthily gather DNA from various aliens and z-fighters while they were mid combat.
I don't think Gero's drone was making actual contact with them during combat, though. IIRC it basically just flew around gathering up blood and tissue samples that were left behind after attacks landed.

As for:

A_Good_Boy posted...
If this guy was capable of creating an android stronger than Broly then it's not too farfetched that he can create a bee drone strong enough to give Krillin a run for his money.

The bee drone was created before he made the ones fighting Piccolo and Gohan in Super Hero. Prior to that, he was in prison after making a bunch of Halloween monster androids that got their shit stomped by Goten and Trunks every time they showed up, so they weren't very powerful threats. He was shown having the bee drone while still in prison and the fight against Krillin was only minutes after his release.
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