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TaylorHeinicke 05/16/23 2:06:18 PM #1:	~~80/80~~ Alright so I get an email with a document from Outlook. I save the file from Outlook just into my Downloads folder (because that's where I put my one-off things that I usually don't need regularly or ever after the initial use). Then a month, weeks, whatever passes. Turns out, I need to reference that document again and send it to someone or upload it. Since I know it's buried somewhere, I just open the email and re-download it, again into the downloads folder. However, instead of appearing right at the top of my downloads folder as the most recent download, it just doesn't appear. I end up having to scroll all the way back to the original date. The download I make today does nothing but "overwrite" the initial download, including the last modified date, so the sort/filter doesn't recognize it as the "most recent." Literally why? The point of re-downloading it is not to go digging through my old shit when the file is literally right there in my inbox. I also don't want to just make shitloads of one-use folders, that just makes everything messy. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973506069] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>80/80Alright so I get an email with a document from Outlook. I save the file from Outlook just into my Downloads folder (because that's where I put my one-off things that I usually don't need regularly or ever after the initial use).Then a month, weeks, whatever passes. Turns out, I need to reference that document again and send it to someone or upload it. Since I know it's buried somewhere, I just open the email and re-download it, again into the downloads folder.However, instead of appearing right at the top of my downloads folder as the most recent download, it just doesn't appear. I end up having to scroll all the way back to the original date. The download I make today does nothing but "overwrite" the initial download, including the last modified date, so the sort/filter doesn't recognize it as the "most recent."Literally why? The point of re-downloading it is not to go digging through my old shit when the file is literally right there in my inbox. I also don't want to just make shitloads of one-use folders, that just makes everything messy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GF_Psyduck 05/16/23 2:08:11 PM #2:	Sort by > Date modified <cite>GF_Psyduck posted [p:973506111] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Sort by > Date modified</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 05/16/23 2:11:01 PM #3:	TaylorHeinicke posted... Literally why? No clue tbh. Maybe it overwrites the file but forgets to update the Date Modified? Or maybe it sees the existing file and silently decides to not complete the download. My workaround is to rename the file when in the saving window so it gets acknowledged as a new file by the system. --- Resident Synthwave enjoyer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SYUwGoheac <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:973506183] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>TaylorHeinicke posted...</cite><quote>Literally why?</quote>No clue tbh. Maybe it overwrites the file but forgets to update the Date Modified? Or maybe it sees the existing file and silently decides to not complete the download. My workaround is to rename the file when in the saving window so it gets acknowledged as a new file by the system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/16/23 2:42:16 PM #4:	GF_Psyduck posted... Sort by > Date modified I have it like that. The problem is, when I re-download the file, it doesn't update the modified date. And technically, it's right. I didn't modify it. But I disagree. Because I even try renaming the file when I download it to something like "current." Same thing. It just doesn't show up. It's not viewing the new file as new. It's just overriding the old one because it's the same file, and because it's exactly the same file, it's not technically being modified, so the last modified date doesn't update. Blue_Thunder posted... No clue tbh. Maybe it overwrites the file but forgets to update the Date Modified? Or maybe it sees the existing file and silently decides to not complete the download. My workaround is to rename the file when in the saving window so it gets acknowledged as a new file by the system. Yeah the rename isn't working for me. It's insane. I get pissed off and name it "WHERE DID YOU GO" -- and it just vanishes. It's frustrating because I'm 99% sure that's what's happening - it's simply overwriting and not modifying. But I don't know how to work around that. Especially when a simple rename doesn't do it. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973506955] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>GF_Psyduck posted... </cite><quote>Sort by > Date modified</quote>I have it like that. The problem is, when I re-download the file, it doesn't update the modified date. And technically, it's right. I didn't modify it. But I disagree. Because I even try renaming the file when I download it to something like "current."Same thing. It just doesn't show up. It's not viewing the new file as new. It's just overriding the old one because it's the same file, and because it's exactly the same file, it's not technically being modified, so the last modified date doesn't update.Blue_Thunder posted... </cite><quote>No clue tbh. Maybe it overwrites the file but forgets to update the Date Modified? Or maybe it sees the existing file and silently decides to not complete the download. My workaround is to rename the file when in the saving window so it gets acknowledged as a new file by the system.</quote>Yeah the rename isn't working for me. It's insane. I get pissed off and name it "WHERE DID YOU GO" -- and it just vanishes. It's frustrating because I'm 99% sure that's what's happening - it's simply overwriting and not modifying. But I don't know how to work around that. Especially when a simple rename doesn't do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 05/16/23 2:50:59 PM #5:	Thats just outlooks code then. They wont adj that minor issue. outlook in general is garbage <cite>Gritty posted [p:973507161] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Thats just outlooks code then. They wont adj that minor issue. outlook in general is garbage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/16/23 2:57:22 PM #6:	Gritty posted... Thats just outlooks code then. They wont adj that minor issue. outlook in general is garbage So it's an outlook thing and not like a file explorer or onedrive sync or whatever issue? That's interesting. I've had no other issues with it though but this is a big one. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973507309] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>Thats just outlooks code then. They wont adj that minor issue. outlook in general is garbage</quote>So it's an outlook thing and not like a file explorer or onedrive sync or whatever issue?That's interesting. I've had no other issues with it though but this is a big one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/17/23 10:37:49 AM #7:	Wack --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973526603] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Wack</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psuedo_Audacity 05/17/23 10:44:32 AM #8:	I assume this is related to how microsoft does version control now, so as to not create a whole bunch of files that seem like they need to be synced across many machines due to being synced to one. <cite>Psuedo_Audacity posted [p:973526732] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>I assume this is related to how microsoft does version control now, so as to not create a whole bunch of files that seem like they need to be synced across many machines due to being synced to one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aridi 05/17/23 10:51:52 AM #9:	I'm just curious, but if you delete the original downloaded file and redownload it brand new, does it still put it in the downloads folder as the date of the attachment rather than the current date of saving/modifying? --- When in doubt, do something. <cite>Aridi posted [p:973526887] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>I'm just curious, but if you delete the original downloaded file and redownload it brand new, does it still put it in the downloads folder as the date of the attachment rather than the current date of saving/modifying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/17/23 12:04:07 PM #10:	Aridi posted... I'm just curious, but if you delete the original downloaded file and redownload it brand new, does it still put it in the downloads folder as the date of the attachment rather than the current date of saving/modifying? Nope. Just tried it. Had a file downloaded and originated on April 24th. Saved in my download folder, date modified = April 24th. Deleted the file myself. Out of downloads and into recycle bin. Emptied it too for good measure. Then redownloaded it from the email. It slid right back into April 24th instead of at the top. So what this says to me is like, the "date" is being drawn from the document itself, and it's not viewing a new save or a rename as a modification. That's obnoxious. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973528288] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Aridi posted... </cite><quote>I'm just curious, but if you delete the original downloaded file and redownload it brand new, does it still put it in the downloads folder as the date of the attachment rather than the current date of saving/modifying?</quote>Nope. Just tried it. Had a file downloaded and originated on April 24th. Saved in my download folder, date modified = April 24th. Deleted the file myself. Out of downloads and into recycle bin. Emptied it too for good measure. Then redownloaded it from the email. It slid right back into April 24th instead of at the top. So what this says to me is like, the "date" is being drawn from the document itself, and it's not viewing a new save or a rename as a modification. That's obnoxious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/17/23 5:37:25 PM #11:	Ok here's another one At 11:56 AM, I received a document I was waiting on, but it was low priority so I'd get to it later in the day. I left the email as unread and didn't touch anything. Just now, 4:30 PM, I'm done with all the important stuff and am coming back to this. I download it, KNOWING I haven't downloaded it yet, expecting it to appear at the very top of the downloads folder for when I need to upload it after I'm done reviewing it. Nope. It appears in the downloads folder, but earlier today. The time modified? 11:55AM. One minute before I even received the email containing the file. So by the system's logic, I was able to modify a file that I had not even received yet. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973535245] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Ok here's another oneAt 11:56 AM, I received a document I was waiting on, but it was low priority so I'd get to it later in the day. I left the email as unread and didn't touch anything.Just now, 4:30 PM, I'm done with all the important stuff and am coming back to this. I download it, KNOWING I haven't downloaded it yet, expecting it to appear at the very top of the downloads folder for when I need to upload it after I'm done reviewing it.Nope. It appears in the downloads folder, but earlier today. The time modified? 11:55AM. One minute before I even received the email containing the file.So by the system's logic, I was able to modify a file that I had not even received yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 05/17/23 5:42:32 PM #12:	Someone has fundamentally misconfigured something. The file is supposed to be updated in the one drive folder. What you downloaded was a copy. For some reason its treating your Download folder as part of One Drive. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:973535354] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Someone has fundamentally misconfigured something.The file is supposed to be updated in the one drive folder.What you downloaded was a copy. For some reason its treating your Download folder as part of One Drive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/17/23 5:45:29 PM #13:	divot1338 posted... Someone has fundamentally misconfigured something. The file is supposed to be updated in the one drive folder. What you downloaded was a copy. For some reason its treating your Download folder as part of One Drive. It does feel like my entire computer is synced with onedrive. Sounds like I need to find some folder that isn't synced with onedrive so I can make it a fucking sandbox --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973535424] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Someone has fundamentally misconfigured something.The file is supposed to be updated in the one drive folder.What you downloaded was a copy. For some reason its treating your Download folder as part of One Drive.</quote>It does feel like my entire computer is synced with onedrive. Sounds like I need to find some folder that isn't synced with onedrive so I can make it a fucking sandbox</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psuedo_Audacity 05/17/23 5:49:29 PM #14:	Psuedo_Audacity posted... I assume this is related to how microsoft does version control now, so as to not create a whole bunch of files that seem like they need to be synced across many machines due to being synced to one. <cite>Psuedo_Audacity posted [p:973535522] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>Psuedo_Audacity posted... </cite><quote>I assume this is related to how microsoft does version control now, so as to not create a whole bunch of files that seem like they need to be synced across many machines due to being synced to one.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 05/17/23 6:46:34 PM #15:	TaylorHeinicke posted... It does feel like my entire computer is synced with onedrive. Sounds like I need to find some folder that isn't synced with onedrive so I can make it a fucking sandbox Do you have Teams installed? Usually any teams you are on correspond with wherever documents are shared. So you can just open the document from there and it will let you either open it in a sort of web version of excel, word or whatever or you can open in the actual program or just download it. When I open the file the first two ways it stays located on whatever Teams shared directory it started on and gets synced. I can also map a share to it using One Drive. When I save the file locally by downloading its a regular file. No syncing. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:973536645] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>TaylorHeinicke posted... </cite><quote>It does feel like my entire computer is synced with onedrive. Sounds like I need to find some folder that isn't synced with onedrive so I can make it a fucking sandbox</quote>Do you have Teams installed?Usually any teams you are on correspond with wherever documents are shared.So you can just open the document from there and it will let you either open it in a sort of web version of excel, word or whatever or you can open in the actual program or just download it.When I open the file the first two ways it stays located on whatever Teams shared directory it started on and gets synced. I can also map a share to it using One Drive.When I save the file locally by downloading its a regular file. No syncing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/18/23 1:37:31 PM #16:	divot1338 posted... Do you have Teams installed? Usually any teams you are on correspond with wherever documents are shared. So you can just open the document from there and it will let you either open it in a sort of web version of excel, word or whatever or you can open in the actual program or just download it. When I open the file the first two ways it stays located on whatever Teams shared directory it started on and gets synced. I can also map a share to it using One Drive. When I save the file locally by downloading its a regular file. No syncing. I am on Teams. But the files I'm talking about don't pass through there. They're just desktop to outlook to desktop (as far as I know - but it happens far too often for it to be related to Teams - it's literally every file) --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973553860] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Do you have Teams installed?Usually any teams you are on correspond with wherever documents are shared.So you can just open the document from there and it will let you either open it in a sort of web version of excel, word or whatever or you can open in the actual program or just download it.When I open the file the first two ways it stays located on whatever Teams shared directory it started on and gets synced. I can also map a share to it using One Drive.When I save the file locally by downloading its a regular file. No syncing.</quote>I am on Teams. But the files I'm talking about don't pass through there. They're just desktop to outlook to desktop (as far as I know - but it happens far too often for it to be related to Teams - it's literally every file)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark-Summoner 05/18/23 2:02:07 PM #17:	TaylorHeinicke posted... I am on Teams. But the files I'm talking about don't pass through there. They're just desktop to outlook to desktop (as far as I know - but it happens far too often for it to be related to Teams - it's literally every file) Sounds like your entire PC is uploading to OD. I'd turn OD sync off for your downloads folder or just make a new desktop folder and drag and drop there. <cite>Dark-Summoner posted [p:973554331] in Someone wi... [t:80445604]...</cite> <quote>TaylorHeinicke posted... </cite><quote>I am on Teams. But the files I'm talking about don't pass through there. They're just desktop to outlook to desktop (as far as I know - but it happens far too often for it to be related to Teams - it's literally every file)</quote>Sounds like your entire PC is uploading to OD. I'd turn OD sync off for your downloads folder or just make a new desktop folder and drag and drop there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Someone with Windows or OneDrive or whatever experience, help me with this shit.