Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia - Topic 10: Free to Play

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ulti, based on ctes' flip what do you think final mafia role is?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because if you're mafia and SBell is independent, town can't win and I'd just decide who I lose to for something like the 20th time in my mafia career.

well im town so if you're town there's no kingmaker elements

what makes you think that one of us could've possibly been indy though?

has indy ever claimed miller before on this site?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I have a working theory but I need SBell to actually be here. His time stamp isn't updating.

i'm curious about this tbh

this f3 sucks for me because i work best with real timing and you are both probably really busy as you haven't posted very much

yeah it's no worries, real life comes first :)

NeoGeo Vanilla here

is neighborizer weighted into balance here?

UltimaterializerX posted...

One thing I'll say right off the bat is you both look scummy. I'll get to you in a second, but he's tripped every single scum flag read I have on him. Avoiding me like the plague, long stretches of being AFK, making excuses for not being here, and potentially being soft bussed by multiple teammates.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I actually think it's ctes/Marth too. Marth was running around calling himself "green checked" long before he had any right to. And frankly if you had the balls to claim miller as scum while avoiding me all game, I'm tempted to just let you win on general principle.

Here is my one caveat. You are a known busser and have a lot of weird interactions with Chris/Lea and Lopen in the early days.

Ulti these two contradict each other a bit.You seem unsure whether his avoidance on you is scummy or towny.

UltimaterializerX posted...

making excuses for not being here

for what it's worth if you're town SBell is mafia, but you just said he has kids and I don't think that even if he's mafia he has "excuses" for not being here for that reason.

Okay let me make a list of pros and cons for you, Ulti.

Pros:
Pushed Chris really hard
Potential Lopen spew
Towny pop-ins here and there

Cons:
While pushing Chris very hard, the reasons are hard for me to understand how you caught him.
Dropped townread on me when it seems convenient.
Bulldozed through Sultan and Corrik instead of voting out ctes.
Flawed reason for scumreading Sultan.
Seem to be keeping your options open. Right now it seems like you want us to go against each other, more than figure out who is mafia between us.
Contradicting yourself a lot.

Shit man lol I'm coming up with more cons for you which is weird cause if I had a gun to my head I'd call you town, but I'm finding it hard to justify

Oh wait another pro for you is that IDK if you'd kill EDumey after being neighborized by him.

May I ask why your conviction towards Chris was stronger than your conviction towards ctes? In fact I'd like to know how you read ctes throughout the entire game, and why you spared him twice.

If there's any mafia to bus there, it's definitely Chris given that he was a spent strongman.

UnderUrMattress posted...

Oh wait another pro for you is that IDK if you'd kill EDumey after being neighborized by him.

Although maybe you would because that was an avenue that mafia could push if they thought I still had tinfoil on him.

UltimaterializerX posted...

If he's scum and isn't posting while you and I argue, I'm going to get very upset later.

The day is only a little bit over an hour old, just give it some time lol.

hey, lost track of time. I'll be back later. lots to discuss.

I am still 100% miller. ipod.

One of you is town. one of you is scum.

one of you has a inno scan, one of you does not.

I would like to review some things. back later.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You missed "literally asked to die multiple times for the good of the team right at the beginning of the game". That is not a scum action and it's why I'm genuinely annoyed to be alive right now, because now I'm stuck going actually never mind guys, if you kill me we now lose lol

Not going to lie, but asking "lynch me lol, hammer me lol, shoot me lol" is pretty easy for mafia to fake. Especially if you were never in contention to be lynched, or to be shot.

It's not mafia indicative, but I'm dismissing it as null.

However if you continue to egg it on then it will look worse for you given that it will be tough for me to see that the townie I'm supposed to see here can only defend himself by saying "I tried to die lol".

SBell let me know whe you're done with your catchup or whatever cause I have a question I need to ask you.

UltimaterializerX posted...

One thing I'll say right off the bat is you both look scummy. I'll get to you in a second, but he's tripped every single scum flag read I have on him. Avoiding me like the plague, long stretches of being AFK, making excuses for not being here, and potentially being soft bussed by multiple teammates.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm 95% town on you

This doesn't sound like a 95% confident townread.

But I look forward to seeing what you dig up about me.

One argument that I am going to make right here and right now for myself is that I think that whoever is town, if they are genuinely trying to solve the game, they will find me as town.

First and foremost, there is nowhere at all written that there is guaranteed to be a godfather in the game. In fact, where I normally play, godfather is considered bastard and is only put in open setups.

Wanna know another role that's been speculated to be here, but has not flipped at all?

Ninja.

In fact, I think that Ninja with an unlimited use watcher is much more probable than a Godfather that can trick a cop who has to hammer to upgrade their powers.

So under the basis that there's no godfather in the setup at all, I'm already town.

greencheck and innocent scan are interchangeable bruh

that case is actually really disappointing lol

like your case towncases me more than anything else. you outlined me posting CORRECT LOGIC to lead us to a mafia that eventually got lynched that day.

want to see what SBell has to say and see how he responds to my question but so far your f3 performance has been very disappointing.

"unbelievably idiotic early hammer"

if you had any problems with corrik being hammered, you should have unvoted. but clearly you did not.

also is there gf/miller in every game even when cop doesn't operate the way it normally should?

how often does ninja appear in y'alls setups? especially those with trackers/watchers?

yeah real time as in interacting in real time like we are

also if you think i'm being performative about saying i was "green-checked" or whatever, then what does it mean for you if you keep going like "i can't believe i'm not dead yet".

for me, it means nothing at surface level, but if you're going to push me for being performative while also being performative then it's highly hypocritical.

well the more you post the more i'm convinced that you built up ammo to scumread me in lylo when you had a townread on me all game

UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm not being performative. I genuinely and truly wanted Red to hammer me on day one and I was perfectly fine letting Sultan kill me. Town would have lost a useless player slot for the greater good.

why not... and hear me out... try to get mafia voted out?

why is that your selling point?

why are you trying to convince me that you're town here because you tried to die when you were never going over.

UltimaterializerX posted...

but he's tripped every single scum flag read I have on him. Avoiding me like the plague, long stretches of being AFK, making excuses for not being here, and potentially being soft bussed by multiple teammates.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I don't think SBell is mafia.

so it's pretty clear that you're trying to double dip here