Current Events > Virginia Judge rules that limiting buying guns to over 18 is unconstitutional

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02fran
05/13/23 5:26:52 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-judge-says-law-banning-231750068.html

Does this mean limiting other things to over 18 is also unconstitutional?
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TheHoldSteady
05/13/23 5:48:25 PM
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"Yeah Gen Z don't need to vote but please feel free to give money to our NRA overlords"

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PepsiWithCoke
05/13/23 5:51:03 PM
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He was appointed by Bush Sr.

We need age limits.

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EmbraceOfDeath
05/13/23 7:13:22 PM
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I'm against guns entirely, but the topic title is a lie. This is about 18-20 year olds, it's right there in the article.

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famfam
05/13/23 7:15:01 PM
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) A federal judge in Virginia has ruled that a law banning licensed federal firearms dealers from selling handguns to young adults under 21 violates the Second Amendment and is unconstitutional.

It should say "to over 21"
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Dakimakura
05/13/23 7:21:52 PM
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Virginia:

Mass gun murder okay

Viewing naked people on a screen is a terrible thing

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Snip-N-Snails
05/14/23 11:34:58 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Virginia:

Mass gun murder okay

Viewing naked people on a screen is a terrible thing


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hockeybub89
05/14/23 11:56:22 PM
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Guns are nice. Porn is evil.

Or whatever my stupid fucking commonwealth thinks

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02fran
05/15/23 6:59:35 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I'm against guns entirely, but the topic title is a lie. This is about 18-20 year olds, it's right there in the article.

It's saying that there can't be a higher age limit than 18 for buying guns.
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yemmy
05/15/23 7:14:35 AM
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02fran posted...
It's saying that there can't be a higher age limit than 18 for buying guns.

It is misleading.

And to answer your question in the op, yes. If you can get drafted to die for your country at 18 you should also be able to have a drink, or buy a handgun.

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02fran
05/16/23 7:32:48 AM
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yemmy posted...
It is misleading.

And to answer your question in the op, yes. If you can get drafted to die for your country at 18 you should also be able to have a drink, or buy a handgun.
How? Title is saying judge rules there can't be age limits above 18 for guns.
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NeoShadowhen
05/16/23 7:47:27 AM
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02fran posted...
How? Title is saying judge rules there can't be age limits above 18 for guns.

In that case I dont understand your opening post. Are you talking about booze?
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itachi15243
05/16/23 7:55:34 AM
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At this point I'm just fucking sick about hearing about anything to do with the second ammendment.

The founding fathers were not all seeing all knowing beings that knew this country would end up like this. If they were, we'd at least have term limits.

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02fran
05/16/23 7:58:05 AM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
In that case I dont understand your opening post. Are you talking about booze?
Sure, and various other things.
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Quake-64
05/16/23 8:38:41 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
Virginia:

Mass gun murder okay

Viewing naked people on a screen is a terrible thing
the GOP is turning the country into Iran

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NeoShadowhen
05/16/23 8:40:14 AM
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02fran posted...
Sure, and various other things.

Like what? Very few things require someone to be 19 or older.
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Lord_Shadow
05/16/23 8:49:14 AM
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It should be 21 and older to own a gun Certainly not 18 or 19 when you can still be in HS


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Ruvan22
05/16/23 9:42:16 AM
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yemmy posted...
It is misleading.

And to answer your question in the op, yes. If you can get drafted to die for your country at 18 you should also be able to have a drink, or buy a handgun.

Why do you believe all those things require the same mental maturity? And carry the same risk?

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Quake-64
05/16/23 9:46:10 AM
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This has become reality, no longer comedy :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk&pp=ygUPa2luZGVyZ3VhcmRpYW5z
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CableZL
05/16/23 9:50:17 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
At this point I'm just fucking sick about hearing about anything to do with the second ammendment.

The founding fathers were not all seeing all knowing beings that knew this country would end up like this. If they were, we'd at least have term limits.

Not to mention the fact that the founding fathers didn't intend for any of the rights granted by the constitution to apply to minorities.

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Quake-64
05/16/23 9:58:00 AM
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CableZL posted...
Not to mention the fact that the founding fathers didn't intend for any of the rights granted by the constitution to apply to minorities.

uh-huh.

and then you wonder why conservatives are so obsessed with originalist and textualist interpretations of the constitution.

what rights were minorities provided with by the constitution originally , from the textual intent they had it 1787 again? Yup.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/16/23 10:05:02 AM
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America doesn't really have a distinct cultural identity like other countries do due to our melting pot nature, so Americans cling strongly to things like Christianity, capitalism, the Constitution and, of course, guns.

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CableZL
05/16/23 10:06:47 AM
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Quake-64 posted...
uh-huh.

and then you wonder why conservatives are so obsessed with originalist and textualist interpretations of the constitution.

what rights were minorities provided with by the constitution originally , from the textual intent they had it 1787 again? Yup.

A teacher that I used to look up to once posted a meme on Facebook that said "We had more freedom in 1776 than we do today."

I asked him to define "we." All he said was "Point taken, sir." Then he actually cheered on the insurrection and I was done with him.

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Funkydog
05/16/23 10:08:02 AM
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Everyone, man, woman, child and babies MUST be armed and ready to start blasting at a moments notice.

Nothing could go wrong.

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Quake-64
05/16/23 10:10:38 AM
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CableZL posted...
A teacher that I used to look up to once posted a meme on Facebook that said "We had more freedom in 1776 than we do today."

I asked him to define "we." All he said was "Point taken, sir." Then he actually cheered on the insurrection and I was done with him.

wow. What a piece of shit.
I wonder if he gave lower grades to POC on purpose
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/16/23 10:11:31 AM
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CableZL posted...
A teacher that I used to look up to once posted a meme on Facebook that said "We had more freedom in 1776 than we do today."

I asked him to define "we." All he said was "Point taken, sir." Then he actually cheered on the insurrection and I was done with him.

Yeah, there's definitely a massive blind spot when people talk about how much "better" things were in the past.

Although, blind spot is putting it lightly.

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CableZL
05/16/23 10:15:42 AM
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Quake-64 posted...
wow. What a piece of shit.
I wonder if he gave lower grades to POC on purpose
The only thing that stood out to me when he was my teacher was that he was one of those overbearing vegetarians. A few of us would regularly go down the street to a burger place and then eat our food in a room near his class. He'd be talking to us while obviously staring in disgust at our burgers the whole time.

I'm not sure if he was always like I mentioned in the previous post or if he fell down a rabbit hole of far right media at some point, but... I don't associate with him any more at all.

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Revelation34
05/16/23 10:22:20 AM
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CableZL posted...


Not to mention the fact that the founding fathers didn't intend for any of the rights granted by the constitution to apply to minorities.


If they didn't intend any of the rights to apply to minorities then they would have added that caveat.

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CableZL
05/16/23 10:26:41 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
If they didn't intend any of the rights to apply to minorities then they would have added that caveat.

They were slave owners.

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/16/23 10:28:45 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
If they didn't intend any of the rights to apply to minorities then they would have added that caveat.

The Constitution was originally created under the idea that only property owners had the ability to exert their rights.

Guess who didn't have any property in 1700s America?

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yemmy
05/16/23 3:03:04 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The Constitution was originally created under the idea that only property owners had the ability to exert their rights.

Guess who didn't have any property in 1700s America?

Well it is a good thing that the language was so pure in the constitution that minorities can now exercise their rights.

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FL81
05/16/23 3:19:35 PM
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yemmy posted...
Well it is a good thing that the language was so pure in the constitution that minorities can now exercise their rights.
There wouldn't have been slavery if the slaves had guns

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Ruvan22
05/16/23 4:19:43 PM
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yemmy posted...
Well it is a good thing that the language was so pure in the constitution that minorities can now exercise their rights.

Like the pure language saying a slave counted 3/5 of a person...
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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/16/23 4:28:11 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The Constitution was originally created under the idea that only property owners had the ability to exert their rights.

Guess who didn't have any property in 1700s America?

There were black property owners in the 1700s and 1800s

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Ruvan22
05/16/23 4:38:41 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
There were black property owners in the 1700s and 1800s

Ahh so black property owners were viewed the same as white property owners in the 1700s? (Since this all came from the statement of property owners being able to exert their rights)
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mercurydude
05/16/23 4:55:00 PM
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CableZL posted...
The only thing that stood out to me when he was my teacher was that he was one of those overbearing vegetarians. A few of us would regularly go down the street to a burger place and then eat our food in a room near his class. He'd be talking to us while obviously staring in disgust at our burgers the whole time.

I'm not sure if he was always like I mentioned in the previous post or if he fell down a rabbit hole of far right media at some point, but... I don't associate with him any more at all.

I understand that there's quite a bit of overlap between Westerners who joined ISIS or some other Islamic extremist group and those who became alt-right. Obviously, being a pushy vegetarian is mild compared to being a MAGA racist or ISIS terrorist, but I suspect that's where this started. People like that apparently NEED someone to look down on.

Being a vegetarian isn't extremely common (unless you're in India) and it's probably harder still to find fellow judgy vegetarians to badmouth other people with, but join MAGA and you've got millions of people to look down your nose at and millions in a ready-built hate mob so that you have a place to belong while you tell yourself you're better than everyone else.

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CableZL
05/16/23 5:16:51 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Ahh so black property owners were viewed the same as white property owners in the 1700s? (Since this all came from the statement of property owners being able to exert their rights)

Right? Do we really need to cover in detail ITT the reasons why the 13th amendment, the voting rights act, and the civil rights act were even necessary in the first place?

This is why I feel like actual history needs to be taught, regardless of what dumbasses like Ron DeSantis think. So many people try to purport that the founding fathers were these all-knowing future-seeing individuals who did nothing wrong.

Fuck that.

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Ruvan22
05/16/23 5:23:07 PM
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CableZL posted...
Right? Do we really need to cover in detail ITT the reasons why the 13th amendment, the voting rights act, and the civil rights act were even necessary in the first place?

This is why I feel like actual history needs to be taught, regardless of what dumbasses like Ron DeSantis think. So many people try to purport that the founding fathers were these all-knowing future-seeing individuals who did nothing wrong.

Fuck that.

I can never tell whether Angelnairwaves, sonic, prism, questionmarkus, etc truly don't know the important distinctions in history or are trying to make snappy sounding one liners or... something else
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