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ViewtifulJoe
05/12/23 2:18:30 PM
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I like these characters a lot.
And there's what, one game, an expansion for a sequel, greatly reduced roles in Project X Zone 2 and Super Smash. Maybe more?

This probably comes off weird since I really didn't like Xenoblade 2 for how light-hearted and devoid of stakes it felt, but I wouldn't mind seeing Xenoblade 1's doing something less stressful afterwards.

XC1/3 spoils. I hate that the ending for most of the cast is "Uh yeah and they were pretty happy... Until they weren't! Hahaha yeah that shit sure came to a screeching halt didn't it!?"

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ViewtifulJoe
05/12/23 6:51:48 PM
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It should still be Reyn time.

Reyn > Fiora > Dunban > Shulk > Riki > Melia > Sharla

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Blue_Inigo
05/12/23 7:00:09 PM
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Xenoblade 2 is light hearted until it very much isn't but yes it would have been nice to see Reyn and co at least a bit. XB2 kinda gets a bit more love it feels like in XB3.

Though hey, XB2 doesn't get the mega fanservice Future Redeemed gave 1

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ViewtifulJoe
05/12/23 7:42:46 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Xenoblade 2 is light hearted until it very much isn't but yes it would have been nice to see Reyn and co at least a bit. XB2 kinda gets a bit more love it feels like in XB3.

Though hey, XB2 doesn't get the mega fanservice Future Redeemed gave 1
That's kinda bittersweet though isn't it?
Wanna destroy Dunban's house? He doesn't need it because he's somewhere between dead and trapped in the digital world. One day after this is resolved, his copy paste clone might be annoyed but oh well.

I just wanna see how they adapted to life after beating the first game.
Like a version of Future Connected but with the whole party.
I am disproportionately annoyed I never got to see any more and have been since late 2021.

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Blue_Inigo
05/12/23 7:50:02 PM
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You got to the end of FR yeah? I think it's not as bittersweet as you might think. Now they're kinda show don't tell about all this but what I took from the end of 3 and FR was

Everything they did wasn't pointless because Noah and co broke Aionios out of its Matrix like simulation eternal hell land. The worlds split which means everyone went back to how they were before the fusing. They got to live out their lives for eons until the worlds combined in a way that didn't destroy everything. What does that mean for A, Shulk, and Rex? Iunno

Though I do get wanting to see more of the previous cast grown older. They give you Panacea and Linka but that ain't the same

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ViewtifulJoe
05/12/23 8:34:43 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
You got to the end of FR yeah? I think it's not as bittersweet as you might think. Now they're kinda show don't tell about all this but what I took from the end of 3 and FR was

Everything they did wasn't pointless because Noah and co broke Aionios out of its Matrix like simulation eternal hell land. The worlds split which means everyone went back to how they were before the fusing. They got to live out their lives for eons until the worlds combined in a way that didn't destroy everything. What does that mean for A, Shulk, and Rex? Iunno
To me, that still feels tainted by happy ending standards. Sure they'd been through some crap and come out on top but they got no agency this time round. They were all spontaneously banished to the local computer realm for who knows how long and just randomly reappeared years later. Possibly without Shulk which is a whole other chain reaction waiting to go off.

Are Shulk and Melia de-aged? If they are do they even know what happened? Does anyone?
It's a machine so it can fail to account for things, are these the very same people directly turned into data and put back good as new? Or is this a Ship of Theseus where the real characters are dead, but everyone and everything's been substituted with a digital replica?
There has to be some cosmic dread stemming from all this. There's Monados involved, something has to be itching to go wrong.

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Kain_Highwind
05/12/23 8:39:05 PM
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I kinda hated how Fiora became not machine anymore at the end of XB1

That should've stayed so the story had stakes for at least one character instead of everyone getting a happy ending

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Prismsblade
05/12/23 8:59:33 PM
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For RPGs in general it's actually not that common to see, let alone play as any of the same cast again in sequels.

So this is actually quite generous as far as that goes.

Haven't gotten to play the XB2, and 3 yet but I've been following the story a bit still and have no idea what the it's end goal is.


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ViewtifulJoe
05/12/23 9:06:31 PM
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Kain_Highwind posted...
I kinda hated how Fiora became not machine anymore at the end of XB1

That should've stayed so the story had stakes for at least one character instead of everyone getting a happy ending
The first time I saw that I was kind of relieved but also annoyed that they didn't explain it when they'd made such a big deal of breaking the situation down for the last half of the game.
Instead you gotta go online and look up the secret chapter which came with the JP release.

I think if offered a choice between the ending we got where I'm wondering what they're going to do for her while the game's desperately trying to get me to focus on Zanza and Dickson
OR
And ending where they put the secret chapter in the game and actually showed her voluntarily postponing using the restoration chamber because she wanted to be there to help Shulk no matter what.

I really might have gone with the latter. For a lot of the time you have her in the party you get the idea she's putting on a brave face. If that was in the game you'd actually see her step up and have her moment after putting up with some serious shit all game.
You'd also have your goal right in front of you. You have your restoration chamber and all that's between it are Dickson and Zanza. I don't know about you but I'd be way more eager to absolutely dumpster both and stick the landing.

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ViewtifulJoe
05/13/23 1:33:41 PM
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Something else that woulda been nice after beating Xenoblade 1.

I wish they'd let you take the whole party into NG+. It's a game about a time bending sword and they let you bring the Monado 3 with you. There's no part where Egil goes "Oh fuck he's got the Monado 3 this time, you know what, I'm tappin' out." So why can't the cutscenes just turn a blind eye to me having all my party members too?

Would have been nice to see post-ending Fiora as a playable character too or an alternate look for Fiora too. I think Monado Dunban would have been fun as well. Both were already in the game and playable at certain points.

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Poorly
05/13/23 1:34:54 PM
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Kain_Highwind posted...
I kinda hated how Fiora became not machine anymore at the end of XB1

That should've stayed so the story had stakes for at least one character instead of everyone getting a happy ending
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ViewtifulJoe
05/14/23 2:03:51 PM
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You know, it doesn't even have to be a look into the future or anything. I just wish the late game stage where you're ignoring Zanza in favor of some unknown superboss who's not actually harming anyone because you've become the Xenoblade 1 version of Al Gore prioritising Manbearpig over all else had some more life to it.

-Some flavor text to make the arena mode more interesting. Also Xeno 3 has some DLC mode where you start as one character but keep earning more characters and buffs. That sounds fun.
-More heart to hearts? More dialogue options for existing heart to hearts? (Or Monado induced flashbacks?)
-One character could have a diary you could read through.
-Make Future Connected an area you can visit in the main game after you finish it.
-Some kind of long quest where you go around documenting different Mechon variants for Vanea or Miqol?
-A way to revisit Mechonis with some stuff to do. Doesn't have to be the real thing, could be a flashback or something trippy like the space sequence before Zanza.
-You know those robot ghosts before Zanza? Boost them up a few levels and put them around the world like FFX's dark aeons.
-You technically get to play as Metal Face, you technically get to play as Dickson. Where's playable Egil? If they ever rerelease this, bring back unlockable characters.

Local man cannot leave it alone.

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ViewtifulJoe
05/15/23 1:39:44 PM
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And one last thing.
I see how this resembles the Xeno 3 'Endless Now' speak, but it isn't.

I don't want unabated pandering, I want a game that's much easier to pick up and do another lap of even if I've beaten it a bunch of times.
As is I have unwinnable boss fights, someone's great idea to make me re-acquire my party and a general lack of spontaneity to contend with.

There comes a point where the characters kind of stop talking, there's no unique lines for levelling, upgrading moves/affinity trees, finding secret treasures, collecting upgrade materials, killing superbosses or anything like that. Once you're down to the battle dialogue being all you hear from them, the game starts to feel empty and inanimate. I don't like that.
It's a game about a magic time bending sword I feel like NG+ should have been the gift that kept on giving.

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