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pinky0926
05/03/23 5:26:26 AM
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It's weird how 50 Shades of Grey is universally panned in the kink/BDSM community for basically glorifying sexual assault, but Secretary is every perverts favourite movie and sexual awakening despite having exactly the same problems. Why is that?

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Punished_Blinx
05/03/23 6:05:19 AM
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I remember channel surfing with a friend and stumbled on the spanking scene.

"P-p-p-pull down your panties" was an in-joke for years.

Secretary did come out first and isn't based on Twilight fan fiction so it had that going for it.

I think one difference is that in Secretary both the boss and her gradually discover and get turned on by their power dynamic that's constantly escalating while in 50 Shades the guy is already into BDSM and starts off by making her sign a non-disclosure contract.

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Supaitwo
05/03/23 6:06:21 AM
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Wait Grey is based on Twilight fanfiction?

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pegusus123456
05/03/23 6:13:07 AM
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Supaitwo posted...
Wait Grey is based on Twilight fanfiction?
No, it literally is Twilight fanfiction. Christian Grey was Edward, Anastasia Steele was Bella. The author just changed the names to publish it.

You can tell a little bit. They mirrored the scene where Edward stops a car from hitting Bella, but it's just Christian stopping a bike messenger from hitting Anastasia. It's subsequently hilarious because it's still treated like she was nearly run down by a car.

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Supaitwo
05/03/23 6:22:13 AM
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Same author as the fanfiction?

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pegusus123456
05/03/23 6:39:41 AM
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Yes. That would have been an interesting lawsuit though.

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K181
05/03/23 7:31:52 AM
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Ive never heard of the former, and Ive only heard jokes about, but never seen, the latter.

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Noumas
05/03/23 7:42:43 AM
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Because literally no one has heard of secretary which is borderline an independent film. While 50 shades shattered records.

Hell most only found out about the movie after 2008's the dark knight when internet dudes were calling Maggie Gyllenhaal uglier than Katie Holmes and looking like a turtle and people would reference this movie where she was hot for once.

What's funny is that 50 shades apparently has nudity but it's still not hot. Secretary has no nudity and is somehow way hotter.
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pinky0926
05/03/23 7:43:58 AM
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I suspect another reason is that the boss in Secretary is a likeable figure. He's flawed, and shows remorse for his behaviour, and a genuine desire to be kind. But the guy in 50 shades is just creepy from the get-go and is never given a reprieve. He shows no self-awareness.

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Noumas
05/03/23 7:47:51 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
No, it literally is Twilight fanfiction. Christian Grey was Edward, Anastasia Steele was Bella. The author just changed the names to publish it.

You can tell a little bit. They mirrored the scene where Edward stops a car from hitting Bella, but it's just Christian stopping a bike messenger from hitting Anastasia. It's subsequently hilarious because it's still treated like she was nearly run down by a car.
... wtf.

Wtf

This entire time me thinking it was some old school book series like ann rice novels or fight club, instead its a book that literally just came out in 2011?

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008Zulu
05/03/23 7:58:17 AM
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Noumas posted...
This entire time me thinking it was some old school book series like ann rice novels or fight club, instead its a book that literally just came out in 2011?

I have no words
Neither did the writer.

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Noumas
05/03/23 7:58:58 AM
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And I've been noticing a trend with female authors and their female protagonists' names. Anastasia Steele? Really? Same with like, Katniss everdeen. Just seems... overly flowery. Like something youd see in those pulp books. Penny dreadful.
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Jagr_68
05/03/23 8:46:02 AM
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One movie is a very charming, pretty funny, and smartly written unconventional romcom with excellent actors.

The other one is 50 Shades of Grey.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/03/23 8:54:13 AM
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How is it that people still do not know FSOG was literally Twilight fan fiction, it was not something that was hidden or not talked about.

The writer literally changed the names to get the book published.

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Master_Kazuya
05/03/23 9:01:33 AM
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I've only seen the office spanking scene in Secretary, that scene is so hot

Noumas posted...
And I've been noticing a trend with female authors and their female protagonists' names. Anastasia Steele? Really? Same with like, Katniss everdeen. Just seems... overly flowery. Like something youd see in those pulp books. Penny dreadful.

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masterpug53
05/03/23 9:22:03 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
How is it that people still do not know FSOG was literally Twilight fan fiction, it was not something that was hidden or not talked about.

The writer literally changed the names to get the book published.

Based on the excerpts I've read, the writing quality is exactly what you'd expect out of fanfic as well.

People always seem to cite George Lucas or Ringo Starr as being the luckiest motherfuckers in the entertainment industry. E.L. James beats them both by lightyears.

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Noumas
05/03/23 11:52:20 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Neither did the writer.
Loool. Didn't stop her from making millions... sad state of affairs for would be authors.
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ghettoraider81
05/03/23 11:54:48 AM
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Fun fact, Twilight itself was originally Harry Potter fan fiction.

Which begs the question, what fresh hell with the Fifty Shades fan fiction bring us?

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/03/23 11:59:47 AM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
Fun fact, Twilight itself was originally Harry Potter fan fiction.

Which begs the question, what fresh hell with the Fifty Shades fan fiction bring us?
What madness drove them to create that monstrosity is my wonder.

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Supaitwo
05/03/23 1:03:19 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
Fun fact, Twilight itself was originally Harry Potter fan fiction.

Which begs the question, what fresh hell with the Fifty Shades fan fiction bring us?

Im sorry what?

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008Zulu
05/03/23 10:19:31 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
What madness drove them to create that monstrosity is my wonder.
Shower nozzle masturbation material.

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