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goatthief 05/04/23 4:11:49 AM #152: |
Who posted --- A Canadian Classic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Number090684 05/04/23 4:34:11 AM #153: |
cjsdowg posted... HE wasn't attacking people when he was grabbed. So he didn't have a reason to be "pacified" if someone grabbed would people blame for you trying to get away ? Given he was acting in a very threatening and menacing manner and voicing his discontentment with how things were going in his life and saying he didn't care if he went to jail the man was essentially warning people that he might do something dangerous and illegal to get out of that situation, which could have harmed at least one person there. So yes, if he approached anyone there and didn't keep his distance he could have been preceived as a threat, especially considering they were essentially in a public transportation vehicle with him. Life altering injury or even death is always one fall and head impact away. The marine was trying to keep people safe but held him excessively long which was his biggest mistake. Can't say if he constantly was applying as much force as necessary to completely cut off the blood and oxygen supply to the other man's brain, but the time he held him was too long. The marine will likely get a involuntary manslaughter charge but given that he's a marine and said he was acting in defense of himself and others he'll likely not suffer a lengthy sentence. Again this even occuring in the first place is a failing of the law first and foremost. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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St0rmFury 05/04/23 4:37:32 AM #154: |
Foppe posted... Remember when 4 Swedish cops on vacation stopped a fight on a NYC subway without hurting anybody?They were super respectful too, kept asking the guy they subdued if he's is ok. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/04/23 4:41:41 AM #155: |
Number090684 posted... Given he was acting in a very threatening and menacing manner and voicing his discontentment with how things were going in his life and saying he didn't care if he went to jail the man was essentially warning people that he might do something dangerous and illegal to get out of that situation, which could have harmed at least one person there. So yes, if he approached anyone there and didn't keep his distance he could have been preceived as a threat, especially considering they were essentially in a public transportation vehicle with him. Life altering injury or even death is always one fall and head impact away. The marine was trying to keep people safe but held him excessively long which was his biggest mistake. Can't say if he constantly was applying as much force as necessary to completely cut off the blood and oxygen supply to the other man's brain, but the time he held him was too long. The marine will likely get a involuntary manslaughter charge but given that he's a marine and said he was acting in defense of himself and others he'll likely not suffer a lengthy sentence. Again this even occuring in the first place is a failing of the law first and foremost. So next time Karen years in a store , she should be choked? Also to clear things up he was yelling he didn't go near, people the murderer went near him. Tell me is because he black or homeless that you think this life doesn't matter ? --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Number090684 05/04/23 4:44:29 AM #156: |
cjsdowg posted... So next time Karen years in a store , she should be choked? That has nothing to do with this situation. Cut it out with this exaggerated takes and argue in good faith then we can have a worthwhile exchange. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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goatthief 05/04/23 4:45:27 AM #157: |
Number090684 posted... That has nothing to do with this situation. Cut it out with this exaggerated takes and argue in good faith then we can have a worthwhile exchange. I find your lack of good faith disturbing --- A Canadian Classic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/04/23 4:46:55 AM #158: |
Number090684 posted...
It has everything to do with. I will take your avoidance of the question as a no. So you don't think someone yelling and causing issues should be choked, in general. But you think this man should have been. Thus leads into my second question. You can't have it both ways, unless there is something different about how you view the two people. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Number090684 05/04/23 4:50:23 AM #159: |
goatthief posted... I find your lack of good faith disturbing What is so hard to understand about my arguement? Nobody had to die, and it's sad that someone did. The law failed to get man murdered the rehabilitation he needed before he was set free to prevent this from happening, and while the marine was fearful for good reason, he shouldn't have held the man for as long as he did. All we can do is let judge and jury decide what happens to the marine next. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/04/23 4:56:50 AM #160: |
Just from the topic title and amount of posts in the topic I can tell without reading it that there's people defending the killing --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/04/23 5:19:16 AM #161: |
The marine should not be given a shorter sentence just for being a marine. And I say that as an Army Brat as a kid. Literally my earliest memories are living on a military base But people in the military should not get reduced sentences ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 05/04/23 8:04:33 AM #164: |
I didn't expect anybody defending this. But it is CE i suppose. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 05/04/23 8:43:02 AM #165: |
The governor and mayor can't bring themselves to denounce this https://twitter.com/KateCagle/status/1653973004899196930 https://twitter.com/C_Sommerfeldt/status/1653953564518088704 Shameful shit from NY Dems as usual --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deathproof12 05/04/23 8:47:41 AM #166: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I thought he was just pinning him down for the cops to detain him and the man dying was an accident ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 05/04/23 9:42:50 AM #168: |
Antifar posted... The governor and mayor can't bring themselves to denounce thisIf they could they would personally congratulate the fucking murderer. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VirtuousWrath 05/04/23 10:50:57 AM #169: |
Out of curiosity, do most people on CE actually leave their house and take public transportation like this? --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 05/05/23 9:15:30 AM #171: |
Someone posted 9 years about him on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1njfls/try_to_stay_away_from_the_michael_jackson/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230505034433/https://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1njfls/try_to_stay_away_from_the_michael_jackson/ --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 05/05/23 9:41:01 AM #172: |
Looks like the trolls are shitting up that thread --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noname12 05/05/23 9:44:05 AM #174: |
NinjaWarrior455 posted... Looks like the trolls are shitting up that threadAre they though? He didnt deserve to die but its apparent hes been a legitimate danger to the public for a decade. They can be two separate things --- Darkprince45 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 05/05/23 9:44:55 AM #175: |
Noname12 posted... Are they though?Yes. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 05/05/23 10:49:04 PM #176: |
https://twitter.com/Newyorkist/status/1654640726125211649 --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/05/23 11:12:19 PM #177: |
Fuck everyone on that train who held him down, or just sat by and watched. I hope next time something like this happens, someone runs over and punches the assaulter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DOOM-64 05/05/23 11:36:36 PM #178: |
Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/Newyorkist/status/1654640726125211649 damnit. this is blowing my mind. Is the choker a really influential guy or are race conspiracies real!? I dont know what to think --- Rip and Tear! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/05/23 11:39:06 PM #179: |
Dude choked him for 15 minutes, so long he shat himself, and people are trying to claim that he deserved it. Jfc. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 05/06/23 3:12:00 AM #180: |
deathproof12 posted...
You don't pin somebody down by choking them to death. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 05/06/23 4:41:43 AM #181: |
Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/Newyorkist/status/1654640726125211649 yeah. He knew what he was doing from the start. Dude should be locked away for good --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 05/06/23 6:13:05 AM #182: |
DOOM-64 posted... this is blowing my mind. Is the choker a really influential guy or are race conspiracies real!?He's the son of a cop --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoMeLx22x 05/06/23 6:52:29 AM #183: |
Legacy media coverage on this has been absolutely horrible. They can't even bring themselves to denounce this fully, and it really goes to show what our average perception of homeless people is in this country and its fucking tragic. --- Sigs are for losers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/06/23 6:56:19 AM #184: |
And on social media and in YouTube comments, I've seen countless people treating the murderer as a hero. It really pisses me off ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DOOM-64 05/06/23 9:48:59 AM #186: |
Antifar posted... He's the son of a cop I knew this smelled fishy!!!!!! thanks --- Rip and Tear! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AI_TechGam3FAQS 05/06/23 10:25:29 AM #187: |
YellowSUV posted... Someone posted 9 years about him on Reddit: Damn, and that was 9 years ago --- The definition of "woke" proves it's objectively a good thing. There is no context in which it can be used as a valid criticism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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megamanfreakXD 05/06/23 11:57:16 PM #189: |
I guess we aren't allowed to defend ourselves in the subway. I should just start using my car then. --- https://i.imgur.com/tzhGHNu.gif http://error1355.com/ce/megamanfreakXD.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 05/06/23 11:58:25 PM #190: |
megamanfreakXD posted... I guess we aren't allowed to defend ourselves in the subway. I should just start using my car then. Nobody needs to defend themselves from yelling. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/07/23 12:01:37 AM #191: |
megamanfreakXD posted... I guess we aren't allowed to defend ourselves in the subway. I should just start using my car then.The victim never attacked anyone. You shouldn't murder people who yell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R1masher 05/07/23 12:03:01 AM #192: |
Nobody on the train even tried to stop the killer --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/07/23 12:08:07 AM #193: |
R1masher posted... Nobody on the train even tried to stop the killerExactly. I would like to see everyone in that train charged ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/07/23 12:11:19 AM #194: |
Black men always have to prove our humanity. The murdered black man was not attacking anyone on that train but he is on trial. Any time something look is happens. Every single mistep in a black man life is looked at over and over. This doesn't happen to anyone else. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 05/07/23 12:34:10 AM #195: |
megamanfreakXD posted... I guess we aren't allowed to defend ourselves in the subway. I should just start using my car then.If by defend yourself you mean murder someone, then no, I don't think that should be allowed --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9-13900k | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/07/23 12:37:41 AM #196: |
megamanfreakXD posted... I guess we aren't allowed to defend ourselves in the subway. I should just start using my car then. So next time a Karen goes wild and start yelling at worker can she put choked for 15 mins. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 05/07/23 12:55:54 AM #197: |
Zikten posted... The victim never attacked anyone. You shouldn't murder people who yell Zikten posted... Exactly. I would like to see everyone in that train chargedMiddle of nowhere, Alaska. cjsdowg posted... Black men always have to prove our humanity. The murdered black man was not attacking anyone on that train but he is on trial. Any time something look is happens. Every single mistep in a black man life is looked at over and over. This doesn't happen to anyone else.Middle of nowhere, South Carolina. Are you part of the protestors jumping on the tracks, which can kill them instantly? Stop acting like this was just some innocent yelling. Witnesses and law enforcement sources said Neely got on the train and started acting very aggressively toward other riders, threatening to harm them. Police sources told NBC New York that Neely told riders on the train that he wanted food, that he wasn't taking no for an answer, and that he would hurt anyone on the train. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/calls-for-charges-in-jordan-neely-case-grow-after-nyc-subway-chokehold-death/4303705/ Something like that is 100% gonna send up red flags to everybody around. So saying otherwise is some extremely sheltered shit. I've taken the NYC subways for almost 35 years at this point and have seen it all. The issue is how long the guy held him, which was completely wrong and which he will likely be charged for. cjsdowg posted... So next time a Karen goes wild and start yelling at worker can she put choked for 15 mins.Yes, some Karen acting exactly like that can and have been stopped before. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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megamanfreakXD 05/07/23 1:08:26 AM #199: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Literally an article above saying he was threatening people --- https://i.imgur.com/tzhGHNu.gif http://error1355.com/ce/megamanfreakXD.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 05/07/23 1:09:49 AM #200: |
megamanfreakXD posted... Literally an article above saying he was threatening people And that justifies a vigilante murder in your eyes? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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candyapplered 05/07/23 1:17:35 AM #201: |
Murphiroth posted... And that justifies a vigilante murder in your eyes?Do you think he was intentionally killed? --- Stay swell and swole my friends of freedom! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 05/07/23 1:18:55 AM #202: |
candyapplered posted... Do you think he was intentionally killed? He absolutely was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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