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epik_fail1
04/30/23 6:57:34 PM
#1:


Vesperia's story gets a little random at the end IMO. Yes, Flynn and Yuri's rivalry was fun and Yuri being an inconvential jrpg protagonist as well, but Symphonia's story was so much better to me.

Please explain

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Blue_Popo
04/30/23 6:58:16 PM
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Vesperia has better characters but the story did fall apart when the global warming stuff happened
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Robot2600
04/30/23 6:58:40 PM
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and yet those games are not as good as Berseria

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VeggetaX
04/30/23 6:59:48 PM
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Abyss is better than both of them

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desert_santa
04/30/23 7:00:06 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
and yet those games are not as good as Berseria

I thought this too

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 7:01:07 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Vesperia has better characters but the story did fall apart when the global warming stuff happened

If felt so random and there was barely anything where we could felt the consequences in the game

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Irony
04/30/23 7:01:37 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
and yet those games are not as good as Berseria
Lmao

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 7:01:45 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
and yet those games are not as good as Berseria

I'll definitly play Berseria one day, heard it got one of the best story. Hope it's not just "waifu bias"

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Irony
04/30/23 7:02:53 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
I'll definitly play Berseria one day, heard it got one of the best story. Hope it's not just "waifu bias"
You heard wrong and it is absolutely waifu bias

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PowerOats
04/30/23 7:05:10 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Vesperia having a better story than Symphonia. Abyss or Berseria maybe, but not Vesperia
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epik_fail1
04/30/23 7:31:32 PM
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PowerOats posted...
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Vesperia having a better story than Symphonia. Abyss or Berseria maybe, but not Vesperia

Might have to give a shot to abyss one day...

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DKBananaSlamma
04/30/23 7:32:08 PM
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Vesperia is good but jesus there is a lot of missables

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 7:44:28 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
Vesperia is good but jesus there is a lot of missables

I am still salty about missing

The kratos fight

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DKBananaSlamma
04/30/23 7:46:35 PM
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Seriously, you gotta be dick deep in a guide the E-N-T-I-R-E time or you'll miss'll a random conversation in a town half a map away that locks you out of some huge questline. I hope the newer Tales games got rid of that shit.

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Kircheis
04/30/23 7:51:36 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
and yet those games are not as good as Berseria
I kind of hate the equipment system in Berseria, feels like a shitty MMO with how many copies of the same gear you get. Older games kept it simple when it came to getting better gear, which is precisely how I liked it.

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Number090684
04/30/23 8:03:48 PM
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Vesperia has a better main playable cast and interactions, Symphonia has better story and antagonists.
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Blue_Popo
04/30/23 8:28:38 PM
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Berseria is trash. You can mash buttons and heal yourself, I beat the whole game like that easily amd the plot is all laphi, laphi, LAPHI
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Bass
04/30/23 8:29:54 PM
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I don't even remember Vesperia's story beyond the first arc and the weird things in the sky for some reason at the end.

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 8:42:38 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Vesperia has a better main playable cast and interactions, Symphonia has better story and antagonists.


I respectfully disagree. Aside from Yuri and Flynn, I liked almost all Symphonia character more than Vesperia

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Irony
04/30/23 8:45:11 PM
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I only liked Yuri

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DKBananaSlamma
04/30/23 8:46:11 PM
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Why didn't they get Troy Baker back for the Definitive Edition. I know Troy Baker said he loved the character. Was it just too much money lol

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ellis123
04/30/23 8:47:26 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
Please explain
Some people didn't play Symphonia as a child when it was new and thus have different expectations/experiences.

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Holy_Cloud105
04/30/23 8:50:19 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Berseria is trash. You can mash buttons and heal yourself, I beat the whole game like that easily amd the plot is all laphi, laphi, LAPHI
The battle system for Berseria fucking sucks. They had it so good with Xillia 2. They tried to reinvent the wheel with Zestiria's absolute garbage battle system and then ran it back in Berseria.

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 8:51:33 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Some people didn't play Symphonia as a child when it was new and thus have different expectations/experiences.
The games were only released 5 years apart. I guess that Vesperia's animations and graphics aged better though. Probably the battle system too

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Hoodroar
04/30/23 8:54:18 PM
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I never saw anyone say that lol.

Vesperia's story is more of an adventurer slice of life, the narrative is pretty loose.

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ellis123
04/30/23 8:57:50 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
The games were only released 5 years apart. I guess that Vesperia's animations and graphics aged better though. Probably the battle system too
There's more to it than that. Every re-release of Symphonia was also substantially worse than the original. Not in the "lololol, the music is slightly static-y" like with the GBA FF ports, but actively worse. For instance, they removed all of the battle transitions (the broken glass stuff) and some of the lines were removed (and not minor ones either... The part where Colette is first visited by an angel is pretty famous for that reason).

And "better" is basically never actually a call on quality, so it's all subjective. Someone could even call Zestiria the best, regardless of bad taste/reality, because that is how it works.

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epik_fail1
04/30/23 10:07:07 PM
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ellis123 posted...
There's more to it than that. Every re-release of Symphonia was also substantially worse than the original. Not in the "lololol, the music is slightly static-y" like with the GBA FF ports, but actively worse. For instance, they removed all of the battle transitions (the broken glass stuff) and some of the lines were removed (and not minor ones either... The part where Colette is first visited by an angel is pretty famous for that reason).

And "better" is basically never actually a call on quality, so it's all subjective. Someone could even call Zestiria the best, regardless of bad taste/reality, because that is how it works.

I own the ps5 remaster and the glass transition is still there. The odd line removal is still present though. My guess is that ports of old games were way harder to preserve back then.

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