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wackyteen
04/26/23 1:27:04 AM
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I'll have to cancel with Verizon soon, anyways. Wanna swap over to prepaid when I get back lmao <_< tired of paying like $200

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SomeLikeItHoth
04/26/23 1:34:44 AM
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I get Disney+ and Hulu no ads for free from Verizon so Im still good.

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WingsOfGood
04/26/23 1:34:51 AM
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-make billions in profits
-not enough must raise price

That is unsustainable
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Questionmarktarius
04/26/23 1:37:40 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
That is unsustainable
I don't think any streaming service is actually making money.
Maybe Swearnet.
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WingsOfGood
04/26/23 1:40:09 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I don't think any streaming service is actually making money.
Maybe Swearnet.

Yes, Netflix is profitable. It first became profitable in 2003 and has grown steadily since then, reaching a profit of $4.49 billion in 2022, a 12.2% decline from its record profit of $5.11 billion in 2021.

https://businessmodelanalyst.com/is-netflix-profitable/

Don't let bootlicking break your brain.

Just because they make less profit don't mean they make no profit

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Questionmarktarius
04/26/23 1:41:00 AM
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Is this going to fuck up disney bundle?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
04/26/23 1:42:32 AM
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So apparently Disney has an ad version now that's cheaper. I think I have that one but yet I've never seen an ad play yet

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Punished_Blinx
04/26/23 1:42:34 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
-make billions in profits
-not enough must raise price

That is unsustainable

I think the outlook is that Disney+ in its current form isn't making them as much money as they otherwise could be. So yeah they're pumping up the price, cutting back on the expensive content and putting more focus back on theaters. Movies going back to making a billion dollars in theaters again is probably making that choice easy to make.

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WingsOfGood
04/26/23 1:43:57 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
making them as much money as they otherwise could be

That is.... Literally what I said...

-make billions in profits
-not enough must raise price

That is unsustainable
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wackyteen
04/26/23 1:44:31 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So apparently Disney has an ad version now that's cheaper. I think I have that one but yet I've never seen an ad play yet

I tried Hulu with ads back in 2015 and I couldn't stand it then.

Rather watch nothing than ads

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Questionmarktarius
04/26/23 1:46:23 AM
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wackyteen posted...
I tried Hulu with ads back in 2015 and I couldn't stand it then.

Rather watch nothing than ads
Tubi, Pluto, and Freevee are acceptable, and they have ads.
Crackle sucks, tho.
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Kamil
04/26/23 1:50:56 AM
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I used to watch The Three Stooges on Crackle with ads a long time ago They did get obnoxious but this was also way before YouTube rolled out their mid roll ad onslaught that can just be intolerable depending on the channel.

So Disney plus doesn't include ESPN. I'd pass.

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Punished_Blinx
04/26/23 1:51:00 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
That is.... Literally whay I said...

Yes but you're taking about Disney as a whole. Not Disney+ specifically. A lot of these corporations are suddenly realizing that aggressively chasing subscription numbers isn't really worth it.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/features/studios-spending-streaming-1235483366/

Another factor that made the cable programming business so good to Hollywood for the past few decades is that Disney, the former Time Warner and Viacom were able to jack up the wholesale price of their most-watched channels every four to five years in their contract renegotiations with cable operators.
When Netflix came on strong a decade ago and popularized the direct-to-consumer streaming model, Hollywoods major studios saw a big chance to cut out the cable middleman and build their own channel platforms. As it turns out, attracting subscribers one by one is a much heavier lift than leveraging the value of must-have channels against cable operators.

Seasoned showbiz watchers are predicting 2023 will be a hard year of restructuring, layoffs, budget slashing and strategic second-guessing for the biz. There will be cuts; there will be shutdowns of underperforming assets.

Consumers are spending more money than ever on home entertainment services. Thats been a success. The question is, why have profits collapsed? says Benjamin Swinburne, media analyst for Morgan Stanley.
The math on the costs of streaming versus earnings potential isnt adding up, which is why every major media and entertainment conglomerate ended the year with double-digit declines in their stock prices.
This is a very painful transition, from one model to the other and from one technology to the other. Its going to be a multiyear shakeout of the major players, says Swinburne. The reality is that everyone outside of Netflix is pretty early in the streaming game. Theyve gone into it guns blazing to build businesses. Pivoting from heavy investment mode to maximizing profits is not easy for any company, especially those with legacy infrastructure costs.

The history of the content business has been Produce once and sell it as many times as you can in different windows, says Perrette. Whats happened the last 15 years or so in the streaming business is that the belief became Produce once and monetize once. Somehow, in the streaming context, that got translated to Forget windowing, forget exploiting content on multiple platforms. The streaming business got into the content-warehousing business. For the economics of content, warehousing is not a good strategy.

The 2023 outlook for Big Media is grim, in part because the pay TV arena reached a milestone in the third quarter of 2022. The total volume of affiliate fees the money distributors pay content providers to carry their programming earned in the quarter by the largest publicly held companies, including Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery, Comcast and Paramount Global, declined year over year for the first time in more than a generation. By Wall Streets measure, the collective dip was only about 2%. It may even rebound slightly in future quarters, but it was nonetheless a psychological threshold that set off a new level of alarm behind studio gates.
The industry has seen huge growth in streaming costs, but there hasnt been anything similar in the reduction of linear spending. Its been almost entirely additive. Thats why the industry finds itself where it is right now, Swinburne says. Investors are looking for a sense of urgency around costs in linear that hasnt been there in the past.

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WingsOfGood
04/26/23 2:00:27 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Yes but you're taking about Disney as a whole. Not Disney+ specifically. A lot of these corporations are suddenly realizing that aggressively chasing subscription numbers isn't really worth it.

They had like 234 MILLION paid subs in 2022.

Multiply that times 10.99 or whatever price.

Profit is there. Chasing subs not the issue. If they not making it, they are mis-managing.

Also apparently subs grew in NA and most sub loss was in india afternlosing rights to cricket lol.
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Punished_Blinx
04/26/23 2:16:34 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Profit is there. Chasing subs not the issue. If they not making it, they are mis-managing.

Returning CEO Bob Chapek is under the opinion that they were mismanaged yeah. That's why shareholders brought him back to make changes within the company.

WingsOfGood posted...
Also apparently subs grew in NA and most sub loss was in india afternlosing rights to cricket lol.

Tbh that's probably an argument that they weren't focused on the right stuff lol. Like why are they pumping up Disney+ with big budget TV shows and putting less emphasis on theatrical releases if a cricket licensing deal can ruin their momentum lol

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Questionmarktarius
04/26/23 2:18:29 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Like why are they pumping up Disney+ with big budget TV shows and putting less emphasis on theatrical releases if a cricket licensing deal can ruin their momentum lol
If ESPN+ loses hockey, I'm done with the entire disney bundle.
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wackyteen
04/26/23 2:38:39 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
They had like 234 MILLION paid subs in 2022.

Multiply that times 10.99 or whatever price.

Profit is there. Chasing subs not the issue. If they not making it, they are mis-managing.

Also apparently subs grew in NA and most sub loss was in india afternlosing rights to cricket lol.

Even if we took the old $7.99 price point and assumed everybody paid that much across all subs, that only equates to $1.872 Billion a month. Presume all customers across the entire subscriber base stay subscribed, on average, 3-5 months out of the year and you're only making $5.6B to $9.36B out of the year.

A company the size of Didney can burn through that fairly easily.

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wackyteen
04/26/23 2:42:52 AM
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Punished_Blinx
04/26/23 3:38:05 AM
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Oops damn Bobs

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tripleh213
04/26/23 3:49:18 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
I get Disney+ and Hulu no ads for free from Verizon so Im still good.


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archedsoul
04/26/23 5:27:25 AM
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Disney+ lost $5 billion in the past year and quarter. The whole streaming thing is gonna be going downhill because it's not worth the insane costs they pour in. A lot of companies are basically starting to follow in Zaslav's footsteps.

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wackyteen
04/26/23 6:15:53 AM
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archedsoul posted...
Disney+ lost $5 billion in the past year and quarter. The whole streaming thing is gonna be going downhill because it's not worth the insane costs they pour in. A lot of companies are basically starting to follow in Zaslav's footsteps.

If they had approached it like traditional TV, with standard length seasons and appropriately sized budgets, I think it would've been easier to manage budgets and expectations.

Instead everybody started pouring tens, if not hundreds, of millions into single shows that have like 6-10 episodes.

I think Didney specifically would have benefitted from an option to stream content like Didney Channel does. A Didney selected set of rotations of popular shows that you can throw on when you don't know what you want to watch and if something catches your eye, you have the in-line options to start the episode, or even entire show, from the start.

As is, I feel like there's too much content being blasted to you at once and the choice fatigue sets in.

I only use Didney+ for Star Wars and Marvel, but if I could throw something that Didney chose for me as background noise, I might be more interested opt-in. I understand the strain that could put on their servers though.

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zeroality
04/26/23 6:47:17 AM
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I had hulu at regular price then disney as a 2.99 add on for like a year+ then they finally stopped that. Wonder if this will increase the price of my bundle again. I've been thinking about reactivating and catching up on Netflix for a while anyway.

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ZevLoveDOOM
04/26/23 6:50:59 AM
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companies getting greedy as usual. what else is new...
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Jiek_Fafn
04/26/23 6:59:55 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
They had like 234 MILLION paid subs in 2022.
Those are Netflix numbers you're thinking of. Disney+ had like 100 mill less

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Jiek_Fafn
04/26/23 7:08:06 AM
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wackyteen posted...
If they had approached it like traditional TV, with standard length seasons and appropriately sized budgets, I think it would've been easier to manage budgets and expectations.

Instead everybody started pouring tens, if not hundreds, of millions into single shows that have like 6-10 episodes.

I think Didney specifically would have benefitted from an option to stream content like Didney Channel does. A Didney selected set of rotations of popular shows that you can throw on when you don't know what you want to watch and if something catches your eye, you have the in-line options to start the episode, or even entire show, from the start.

As is, I feel like there's too much content being blasted to you at once and the choice fatigue sets in.

I only use Didney+ for Star Wars and Marvel, but if I could throw something that Didney chose for me as background noise, I might be more interested opt-in. I understand the strain that could put on their servers though.
Theyre trying to copy the Netflix formula of make a bunch of shit and see what sticks. Which most of it is common sense. Marvel/Star Wars and some lower budget stuff like Jeff Goldblum being a mild surprise. They'll start dropping the idea of stuff like Willow and National Treasure soon I'd think.

They actually have a shot at being profitable though. They've built up a big enough consumer base. They just need to cut costs at this point and they can join Netflix and Hulu as being the only streaming money makers

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