Current Events > Male powerlifter (Avi Silverberg) enters women's event, breaks record

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k1zzl3_82
04/25/23 1:05:47 PM
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https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/

https://youtu.be/N7dyJfUxgOw

I think many saw a scenario like this coming
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Foppe
04/25/23 1:08:39 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAWgtxAAEZ0i.jpg

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Funkydog
04/25/23 1:10:41 PM
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Right wing bigots being the problem themselves they say exists when it doesn't exist yet again.

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Suolevram
04/25/23 1:11:56 PM
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Foppe posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAWgtxAAEZ0i.jpg
He's even got the color scheme down, fna.

When will they start doing to South Park what they do with The Simpsons?

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ViewtifulGrave
04/25/23 1:12:45 PM
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Foppe posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAWgtxAAEZ0i.jpg
Be careful I got modded for posting the video of this.

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s0nicfan
04/25/23 1:16:08 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Right wing bigots being the problem themselves they say exists when it doesn't exist yet again.

You should probably read the article, since the guy who did this took the record from a trans athlete who was on an eight competition undefeated winning streak and holds the regional record for the women's deadlift.

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pinky0926
04/25/23 1:20:59 PM
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Remember for the entire history of powerlifting (until recently) people were phoning in their bench press by comically arching and getting away with a 1 inch ROM and we were just told to not hate the player, hate the game? Yeah

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Questionmarktarius
04/25/23 1:21:17 PM
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Desegregate sports
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HairyQueen
04/25/23 1:22:44 PM
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I see

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Tig
04/25/23 1:25:18 PM
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Fair, next

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Funkydog
04/25/23 1:25:32 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
You should probably read the article, since the guy who did this took the record from a trans athlete who was on an eight competition undefeated winning streak and holds the regional record for the women's deadlift.
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Prestoff
04/25/23 1:28:41 PM
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I mean it's obvious the guy entering the women event wasn't doing it in good faith, but nonetheless when you make the rules for entering into a sport so vague and general you open yourself up for these type of things. There should absolutely be some part of the rule showing that the person who wants to participate in a women sport is doing it in good faith and is being serious about it.

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Purple_Cheetah
04/25/23 1:31:46 PM
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The guy who did it is also a coach that trains female powerlifters that have to compete with the trans powerlifter. He mostly did it to make it obvious how flawed/abusable the rules of entry are. You state you're a woman and enter the women's catagory regardless of any other proof/history/treatment.
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RuneterranSnap
04/25/23 1:32:43 PM
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Bigots gonna bigot.
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UnfairRepresent
04/25/23 1:36:54 PM
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This topic is gonna get loooocked

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Prestoff
04/25/23 1:41:41 PM
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Purple_Cheetah posted...
The guy who did it is also a coach that trains female powerlifters that have to compete with the trans powerlifter. He mostly did it to make it obvious how flawed/abusable the rules of entry are. You state you're a woman and enter the women's catagory regardless of any other proof/history/treatment.

Yeah the bold, that will probably be the only way to actually weed off bad faith actors and those who truly are Trans in good faith.

On one hand it was still a fucked up thing for him to do, but on the other hand it was probably a necessary thing to codify the rulings to be more specific.

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MrToothHasYou
04/25/23 3:09:02 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Yeah the bold, that will probably be the only way to actually weed off bad faith actors and those who truly are Trans in good faith.

On one hand it was still a fucked up thing for him to do, but on the other hand it was probably a necessary thing to codify the rulings to be more specific.
Was it, though? Because if there was an actual problem of men pretending to identify as women in order to compete, you would expect that it would be more widespread than just this one guy, who was only doing it to prove a point.

Itd be like if I went around taking all the change from every take a penny, leave a penny tray in order to prove the point that someone acting in bad faith might take advantage of these systems. Sure, no one is actually bothering to do that, and it isnt an actual problem, but it could be!

Would that make me an asshole? Yes. Would it prove the point that rules need to be in place to stop the problem of bad actors from stealing all the pennies? No, because that isnt an actual problem that is happening.

But all that discussion is a moot point, because he wasnt trying to make the point that the rules need to be hammered out and codified to protect womens athletic competitions from interference by bad actors, the point he (and the organization backing him) was trying to make is that trans women arent women, and any step that can be taken to make it harder for them to compete against cis women is a good and positive step. Because, of course, they are bigots.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
04/25/23 3:21:24 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
Would that make me an asshole?

No, but saying a woman's victory and the results of years of daily training is comparable to a handful of pennies kinda gives the idea that women's sports in general arent much of a concern of yours.

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Flauros
04/25/23 3:26:21 PM
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Is this their version of a peaceful protest?

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voldothegr8
04/25/23 3:28:31 PM
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Color me shocked

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04/25/23 3:30:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Desegregate sports
This. Separate but equal is not equal.

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ironman2009
04/25/23 3:32:22 PM
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Desegregation isn't the answer you want it to be unless you don't want women playing sports at all.

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ironman2009
04/25/23 3:36:15 PM
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I agree with this. Desegregation isn't the right way to handle that issue though. Transwoman or not, they wouldn't make the cut 99% of the time.

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voldothegr8
04/25/23 3:36:55 PM
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The women who play those sports give a fuck.

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GrandConjuraton
04/25/23 3:39:30 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Right wing bigots being the problem themselves they say exists when it doesn't exist yet again.


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whitelytning
04/25/23 3:40:25 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
The women who play those sports give a fuck.


Good point. That never mattered for this argument though.

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UnfairRepresent
04/25/23 4:28:42 PM
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I'm not a fan of the "You don't like womens sports so you can't care about this!" argument, it seems dumb to me.

I like UFC (womens and mens) so am I allowed to care about that but not womens racing or volleyball?

If the WNBA annouced that now all games would have 17 balls on the court at the same time are only WNBA fans allowed to comment on it?

It just seems like a lazy evasion to me.

Do you have to love Twitter to comment on the Blue checkmark scheme?

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Flauros
04/25/23 4:30:19 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not a fan of the "You don't like womens sports so you can't care about this!" argument, it seems dumb to me.
The ones that say this also never cared about womens sports until the other side started commenting on it.

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Gwynevere
04/25/23 4:38:20 PM
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Basically. I guess they were getting tired of waiting for that hypothesized case of a trans woman coming in and fucking up the sanctity and fairness of women's sports or whatever so they just...fucked it up themselves?

Idk, trying to work through the logic of transphobes might as well be deciphering an alien language

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UnfairRepresent
04/25/23 4:43:30 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Basically. I guess they were getting tired of waiting for that hypothesized case of a trans woman coming in and fucking up the sanctity and fairness of women's sports or whatever so they just...fucked it up themselves?

Idk, trying to work through the logic of transphobes might as well be deciphering an alien language

IF you rememember the same thing happened with the womens bathrooms/changing rooms thing

A bunch of right wingers started harrasing women to prove that trans people would.... harras women?

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hitokoriX
04/25/23 4:56:28 PM
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I can say that (most) trans women enjoy a significant advantage over biological women. If you have gone through male puberty, you have that advantage. Now for the people who haven't, I would be interested to see research data -- but the truth is there really isn't much out there.

And to keep it honest, any trans men out there competing against biological men I would actually root for -- they're up against an unfair competition.

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s0nicfan
04/25/23 5:10:38 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Basically. I guess they were getting tired of waiting for that hypothesized case of a trans woman coming in and fucking up the sanctity and fairness of women's sports or whatever so they just...fucked it up themselves?

Idk, trying to work through the logic of transphobes might as well be deciphering an alien language

Just say you didn't read the article:
He then casually bench-pressed nearly 370 pounds beating the current Alberta womens record by almost 100 pounds.

That record 275 pounds was held by trans athlete Anne Andres, who was seen watching Silverberg while volunteering at the event.

Andres also holds the Alberta womens record for the deadlift, at 544 pounds giving her the local record for the total of all three lifts, lifting a combined 1,245 pounds.

The trans lifter won eight of nine competitions entered in the womens category over the last four years, ICONS said.

This guy, who trains female powerlifters, just broke an eight competition winning streak by a trans athlete who holds nearly all of the powerlifting records, including the one he broke, in that region for that weight class.

Now, if you want to make the case that a trans athlete holding all of the records and winning every competition they enter until a man stepped in and broke one of them isn't a "case of a trans woman coming in and fucking up the sanctity and fairness of women's sports" then you go right ahead, but in general I would recommend waiting to write your outrage post until after you actually read the story first.

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s0nicfan
04/25/23 5:15:02 PM
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No, I'm pointing out that this situation everyone keeps calling hypothetical, where a trans athlete steps in and completely dominates across the board, stops being a hypothetical when it's literally in the article.

The thing is, I understand how badly you don't want these situations to exist because your argument against separating male and female sports has consistently been that if there was a problem we would be seeing it. So now we're seeing it, and you just want to redefine the definition of problem.

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Sexypwnstar
04/25/23 5:16:09 PM
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Good for her. Don't know why everyone is misgendering her.

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uwnim
04/25/23 5:22:13 PM
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I read about this a couple weeks ago when CE first talked about it. It basically made it clear that theres a massive gap between cismen and transwomen when it comes to like strength and whatnot.

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s0nicfan
04/25/23 5:40:22 PM
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https://www.outsports.com/trans/2022/3/1/22948400/transgender-trans-athlete-championship-national-world-title
Off the top of my head I could name several, and some digging has found at least 13 trans women who have earned national or international victories. No out trans woman has won an Olympic medal in the womens category (Canadian soccer player Quinn is nonbinary).

Still, many more than two trans women have won national or international competitions, with others doing very well, including state and regional titles.

Here are 20 trans women who have won national or international competitions all competing within the rules in the womens category.

But I'm sure you'll just keep moving the goal post and calling me transphobic. It's just hypothetical. Oh it's just one. So what if it's just 20. And that's being generous and ignoring the fact that 20 nationally competitive m2f trans athletes is an astonishingly high number for a population that is a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

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s0nicfan
04/25/23 5:54:43 PM
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Then stop bringing up numbers as if you're making some kind of point. I understand that you don't care how many there are, but youve repeatedly brought up quantity as if it's some sort of point in favor of your argument. Then, when it turns out you haven't even done a superficial level of research into the issue you just turn around and get angrier. Oh, that person is a transphobe. Oh, that person doesn't care about women's sports. Oh,... The list of disingenuous excuses you throw out there in order to avoid actually talking about the issue is endless, because you don't actually care what the details are. You don't give a shit if no female will ever be able to break these records in some of these events. You have your opinion, and it's set in stone, and no amount of evidence is going to change your mind.

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UnfairRepresent
04/25/23 6:04:28 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Then, when it turns out you haven't even done a superficial level of research into the issue you just turn around and get angrier. Oh, that person is a transphobe. Oh, that person doesn't care about women's sports. Oh,... The list of disingenuous excuses you throw out there in order to avoid actually talking about the issue is endless, because you don't actually care what the details are.
Yeah that's the part that bugs me

It's so lazy

If you're uncomfortable talking about the issue then that's fine, no one is forcing you too but dismissing facts to rant about weird evasive conjecture is wasting everyones time and makes you look so dishonest

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Jerry_Hellyeah
04/25/23 6:10:55 PM
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I'm sorry, did "men are stronger than women" seem like a "win" to anybody?

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justaguy3492
04/25/23 6:11:58 PM
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From the article:

"However, the unions competition registration policy states that a competitors government-issued photo identification (excluding Youth lifters) must be verified during the weigh-in or equipment check, including date of birth, province, and gender at all competitions.'

This is an assumption, but I'm guessing the new record holder hasn't actually changed his gender identification on his ID so the record can just be thrown out and we can move on.

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